Is there a minimum time that a company commander needs to be in the command position for it to actually count as a command KD position?

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 13 Oct 2023 10:00:11 -0400

I've been a signal company commander in the national guard for about a year. My brigade HQ is deploying and might move me over into the S6 shop starting in May for the mob. If I move in May, that will put me at 18 months in command. I've heard various timeframes like 12 months, 18 months, and 24 months is the minimum time needed for it to count as a KD position. Does anyone have a reg they can point me to on minimum KD company command time so I can try bargain a little if my command time is going to be cut short. Thanks in advance!

Response by COL Randall C. made Oct 13 at 2023 10:51 AM

COL Randall C. — Fri, 13 Oct 2023 10:51:37 -0400

Two different discussions - "How long should I be in a specific KD position?" and "How much aggregate time should I have in KD positions as a Captain?".

Regarding specific positions, in most cases it is 12 months minimum. 18 months is generally recommended, and 24 months is the maximum (generally ... exceptions do occur).

For aggregate time in KD positions, generally it's 24 months total from all KD positions you've held. It can vary from branch to branch, but the 24 months applies in most cases.

For RC Captains ib the Signal Corps officers, the recommendation is that they serve 24 months in a KD position.

In your case, you'll need to serve at least six more months in another KD job such as the Battalion S6 or another company/detachment command to bring you in line with what your peers will have when they go before the promotion board.
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* DA PAM 600-3 (Commissioned Officer Professional Development and Career Management) - https://api.army.mil/e2/c/downloads/376665.pdf
* Signal Corp update (8 AUG 22) - https://api.army.mil/e2/c/downloads/2022/08/08/39bc9db1/signal-corps-8-aug-22.pdf

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Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 13 at 2023 12:04 PM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 13 Oct 2023 12:04:39 -0400

I commanded very late as a captain (there was a war on) and had slightly over a year in command. You shouldn't be worried about not hitting 2 years.

Response by CPT David Tanner made Oct 13 at 2023 12:47 PM

CPT David Tanner — Fri, 13 Oct 2023 12:47:44 -0400

I do not know for sure, but if you are in that position for a majority of the reporting period and you are given a command OER, that should be able to count as your command time. CPT Tanner, USA, Retired

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 13 at 2023 6:11 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 13 Oct 2023 18:11:10 -0400

18-24 https://api.army.mil/e2/c/downloads/2022/08/08/39bc9db1/signal-corps-8-aug-22.pdf

signal-corps-8-aug-22.pdf

Response by LTC Stewart Mason made Oct 14 at 2023 3:41 PM

LTC Stewart Mason — Sat, 14 Oct 2023 15:41:27 -0400

https://www.usar.army.mil/Portals/98/Documents/ARCD/MILPER%20Messages/CY21%20USAR%20COL%20TPU%20and%20AGR%20CMD%20Board%20Announcement%20MILPER%2019-363.pdf?ver=2020-02-18-155235-437
I concur with COL Cudworth, but meet with your R/SR and S1 to work the actual numbers an determine if you have any flexibility.
Good Luck.

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Response by COL Dan Ruder made Oct 15 at 2023 12:06 AM

COL Dan Ruder — Sun, 15 Oct 2023 00:06:36 -0400

CPT Private RallyPoint Member, 12 months is the minimum. You'll be fine with 18 months KD time as a company commander. That gives you two company command OERs for the O4 board to review. Moving onward from Co Cmd to the Brigade staff in support of a mobilization is also a good look for you that the board will see. Your manner of performance in command AND in your post KD jobs is the most important element that the board will notice.