Is there a regulation that governs the wear of Dress Blues by Veterans? AR 670-1?

SGT Jamie Jackson — Sat, 16 Apr 2016 21:39:05 -0400

Response by SSG Scott McIntyre made Apr 16 at 2016 9:49 PM

SSG Scott McIntyre — Sat, 16 Apr 2016 21:49:39 -0400

SGT Jackson, the uniform must be worn IAW with the individual service's regualtions.

Federal law (10 USC, 772)

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/772

10 U.S. Code § 772 - When wearing by persons not on active duty authorized

June 3, 1916, ch. 134, §12 (words before 4th semicolon, and words after 7th semicolon, of 1st proviso of 1st par.; and last proviso of last par.), 39 Stat. 216; July 9, 1918, ch. 143, subch. XVII, §10 (last proviso), 40 Stat. 892; June 4, 1920, ch. 228, §8, 41 Stat. 836; June 6, 1942, ch. 382, 56 Stat. 328; May 24, 1949, ch. 139, §15(b) (last proviso), 63 Stat. 91; July 6, 1953, ch. 180, §1, 67 Stat. 140.

Response by SGT(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 16 at 2016 10:16 PM

SGT(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 16 Apr 2016 22:16:52 -0400

If you wear it, wear it like you're still in.

Response by Capt Seid Waddell made Apr 16 at 2016 11:39 PM

Capt Seid Waddell — Sat, 16 Apr 2016 23:39:17 -0400

Who is going to stop you?

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Response by CSM Darieus ZaGara made Apr 17 at 2016 6:01 AM

CSM Darieus ZaGara — Sun, 17 Apr 2016 06:01:55 -0400

Army Veterans. Instructions are listed in paragraph 30-4 of Army Regulation 670-1.

Former members of the Army may wear the uniform if they served honorably during a declared or undeclared war, and if their most recent service was terminated under honorable conditions (that means an honorable or general discharge). Personnel who qualify under these conditions will wear the Army uniform in the highest grade they held during such war service.

The uniform is authorized for wear only for the following ceremonial occasions, and when traveling to and from the ceremony or function. Uniforms for these occasions are restricted to service and dress uniforms; the BDU and physical fitness uniforms will not be worn.

(1) When attending military funerals, memorial services, weddings, inaugurals, and other occasions of ceremony.

(2) When attending parades on national or state holidays, or other patriotic parades or ceremonies in which any active or reserve United States military unit is taking part.
Former Soldiers who are discharged honorably or under honorable conditions from the Army (even if it's not during wartime service) may wear their uniform while going from the place of discharge to their home of record, within three months after discharge.

Wear of the Army uniform at any other time, or for any other purpose than stated above, is prohibited.

Hope this helps!

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 17 at 2016 11:41 AM

MSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 17 Apr 2016 11:41:21 -0400

https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/USCODE-2010-title10/html/USCODE-2010-title10-subtitleA-partII-chap45-sec772.htm

U.S.C. Title 10 - ARMED FORCES

(a) A member of the Army National Guard or the Air National Guard may wear the uniform prescribed for the Army National Guard or the Air National Guard, as the case may be.

Response by PO2 Robert Aitchison made Apr 17 at 2016 2:18 PM

PO2 Robert Aitchison — Sun, 17 Apr 2016 14:18:58 -0400

I wear my dress blues exactly once a year, for the turret two memorial service every April 19 aboard USS Iowa.

Response by MSG David Pittari made Apr 20 at 2016 9:01 AM

MSG David Pittari — Wed, 20 Apr 2016 09:01:42 -0400

Yes it is in AR 670-1. Wear of dress blues for retirees. Check it out for the details but I think all you have to do is use the retirement branch as a unit insignia. It will also tell you when u can wear it.

Response by SFC Stephen Steed made Apr 20 at 2016 9:46 AM

SFC Stephen Steed — Wed, 20 Apr 2016 09:46:44 -0400

Yes I believe there is. After retirement I was that if I were to wear my Class A's I would need to remove patch on my left shoulder replace it with the retired patch that can get.

Response by SSG Byron Hewett made Apr 20 at 2016 11:32 AM

SSG Byron Hewett — Wed, 20 Apr 2016 11:32:35 -0400

AR 670-1 spells it all out. make sure you read it study it and know it because if some one tries to question you or call you out on this you'll have all the right answers for them and you can shut them down on it and know it and having you own personal copy of it tabbed for pages needed and the paragraphs highlights for quick easy reference access so you can point it out fast to somebody who thinks they are a Mr. know it all and you can get them shut down fast so you can focus on the more important things that your wearing your uniform for than having to be hassled by those who are out just to cause a problem.

Response by SGT Shawn Schweinberg made Apr 20 at 2016 12:48 PM

SGT Shawn Schweinberg — Wed, 20 Apr 2016 12:48:24 -0400

AR 670-1 covers everything. The standards don't change when retired. Just can't walk around saying your still in the service.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 20 at 2016 4:08 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 20 Apr 2016 16:08:04 -0400

What is the whole story please?

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 20 at 2016 4:14 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 20 Apr 2016 16:14:58 -0400

Actually I have an answer: the ref exists and has been cited. The question I have is "If one of your bothers is a bit jacked up, then when did it become cool to call them out in public? If you can take them aside and fix it then please do. If I were a bit off and one of my guys got me squared away I would say thanks. If they are too much of jack ass to accept the help then quoting regs at a retiree will be as helpful as yelling at a brick wall. Just be cool and don't make a fuss that can be seen or heard by others."

Response by SFC Jimmy Hernandez-Benitez made Apr 20 at 2016 4:20 PM

SFC Jimmy Hernandez-Benitez — Wed, 20 Apr 2016 16:20:57 -0400

Active, reserve and retired military when using any uniform have to follow AR-670-1. No exception.

Response by MSgt Raymond Stettner made Apr 20 at 2016 4:50 PM

MSgt Raymond Stettner — Wed, 20 Apr 2016 16:50:49 -0400

The only time I have worn my uniform after I retired is if requested at a military funeral. Then I have to explain I was 2 topping with 3 rocking!

Response by Capt Hansel Bumgarner made Apr 20 at 2016 8:12 PM

Capt Hansel Bumgarner — Wed, 20 Apr 2016 20:12:13 -0400

One instance that regardless of regulations you are not allowed to wear your dress uniform.

You put on 40 lbs after your discharge.

Response by SFC Michael Houlihan made Apr 21 at 2016 3:21 AM

SFC Michael Houlihan — Thu, 21 Apr 2016 03:21:32 -0400

If you wear the dress uniform it should be worn correctly per AR 670-1

Response by Sgt William Coffee made Apr 21 at 2016 9:11 AM

Sgt William Coffee — Thu, 21 Apr 2016 09:11:58 -0400

I can only speak for the Marine Corps. Dress Blues are authorized for veterans to wear provided that all other grooming standards are met, the uniform reflects the last rank attained before you were discharged, the discharge must be other than dishonorable, and the veteran does not disgrace the uniform. You earned it but do not disrespect it. Semper Fi

Response by PO1 Donald Kennelly made Apr 21 at 2016 11:40 AM

PO1 Donald Kennelly — Thu, 21 Apr 2016 11:40:04 -0400

For you that are Navy, here's Navy's regs. Section 4. 1401.3.b.(2):
(2) Former Members of the Armed Forces. Unless discussed in DOD Directive 1334.1 or Title 10 U.S. Code Sec. 772, former members who served honorably during a war and whose most recent service was terminated under honorable conditions, may wear the uniform of the highest grade held during their service only on the following occasions and during travel related to those occasions.
(a) Military funerals, memorial services, weddings and inaugurals.
(b) Patriotic parades or ceremonies in which any active or reserve United States military unit is taking part. Wearing of the uniform or any part of it at any other time or for any other purpose is prohibited.

http://www.public.navy.mil/bupers-npc/support/uniforms/uniformregulations/Chapter1/Pages/1401LawsDirectives.aspx

1401 - Laws, Directives

1. GENERAL. Various laws, regulations and amplifying directives issued by competent authorities govern the wear of uniforms by Navy personnel. Applicable laws include:

Response by SSG Byron Hewett made Apr 21 at 2016 2:39 PM

SSG Byron Hewett — Thu, 21 Apr 2016 14:39:21 -0400

AR670-1 Wear of the uniform by retired personnel
Found in Section 30.3 Page 314
Applies to Gender Both
a. Personnel who will be advanced to a higher grade upon retirement have the option of wearing the insignia of that grade thereafter.
b. Retired personnel on active duty will wear their uniform and insignia in the same manner as prescribed for personnel in the Active Army of corresponding grade and branch.
c. Retired personnel not on active duty may wear either the uniform reflecting their grade and branch on the date of their retirement, or the uniform for personnel in the Active Army of corresponding grade and branch, when appropriate, but may not intermix the two uniforms. Personnel will wear the grade as shown on the retired grade of rank line on the retirement order.
d. Retired personnel not on active duty are not authorized to wear shoulder sleeve insignia, except as follows:
(1) Personnel performing instructor duties at an educational institution conducting courses of instruction approved by the Armed Forces will wear the shoulder sleeve insignia of the command that is responsible for the course of instruction. Senior and junior ROTC instructors will wear the Cadet Command shoulder sleeve insignia on their left shoulder (see AR 145–1 and 145–2 for wear of the uniform by senior and junior ROTC instructors, respectively).
(2) Retired personnel are authorized to wear the shoulder sleeve insignia for U.S. Army Retirees on the left shoulder. The insignia consists of a white cloth disc with a blue border, and an inner white disc with a red border, which bears a blue and white adaptation of the coat of arms of the United States. The outer disk that surrounds the coat of arms contains the inscription “UNITED STATES ARMY” in red letters at the top, and the word “RETIRED” in blue letters at the bottom (see fig 30–1).
(3) Retired personnel may wear the shoulder sleeve insignia for former wartime service (SSI–FWTS) on the right shoulder if they were authorized wear of the SSI–FWTS while on active duty.
e. Retired personnel not on active duty are not authorized to wear the Army uniform when they are instructors or responsible for military discipline at an educational institution, unless the educational institution is conducting courses of instruction approved by the Armed Forces.
f. In addition to the occasions for wear listed above, retired personnel are authorized to wear the uniform only on the following occasions. Uniforms for these occasions are restricted to service and dress uniforms; the BDU and physical fitness uniforms will not be worn.
(1) While attending military funerals, memorial services, weddings, inaugurals, and other occasions of ceremony.
(2) Attending parades on national or state holidays, or other patriotic parades or ceremonies in which any active or reserve United States military unit is taking part. Wear of the Army uniform at any other time, or for any other purpose than stated above is prohibited.
g. Retirees are authorized to wear the physical fitness uniform (PFU) or the improved physical fitness uniform (IPFU) under the following provisions:
(1) May wear the PFU or the IPFU with civilian attire off the installation.
(2) When wearing the PFU or the IPFU as a complete uniform, retirees will—
(a) Wear only authorized accessories corresponding to those worn by personnel of the Active Army.
(b) Keep the sleeves down on the sweatshirt or jacket, the legs down on the pants, and the t-shirt tucked inside the trunks.
(c) Not roll or push up the sleeves of the IPFU sweatshirt or the PFU/IPFU jacket.
(d) Wear the sleeves of the IPFU sweatshirt cuffed or uncuffed; may not cuff the IPFU jacket sleeves.
(e) Wear the black knit cap pulled down snugly on the head, with the bottom edge of the cap folded up; will not roll the edge of the cap. A similar, commercially designed black knit cap is authorized for wear. h. Pregnant retirees are authorized to wear the t-shirt/sweatshirt outside the trunks/sweatpants.

The United States Army retired Service Identification Badge may be purchased by retirees at any clothing and sales shop on any military post or base or PX or BX and are authorized for wear on your dress uniform with or without a Combat Service Identification Badge if you have earned one or not.

Response by Cpl Jim Hainen made Apr 21 at 2016 7:13 PM

Cpl Jim Hainen — Thu, 21 Apr 2016 19:13:14 -0400

If there isn't, there should be. James Hainen Sgt. USMC 1189639

Response by SPC Ken Hall made Apr 22 at 2016 8:31 AM

SPC Ken Hall — Fri, 22 Apr 2016 08:31:15 -0400

I have grown a beard since discharge. I meet all qualifications. If I wear the uniform now for appropriate places or events will I have the uniform police come after me.

Response by TSgt James Carson made Apr 22 at 2016 6:13 PM

TSgt James Carson — Fri, 22 Apr 2016 18:13:41 -0400

There used to be a Regulation 35-10 that said how a retired military person is to whear the uniform and when it could / should be worn. If the BX / PX has uniform sales section they should have a copy of the regulation handy or for purchase.

Response by CAPT Hiram Patterson made Apr 26 at 2016 9:45 AM

CAPT Hiram Patterson — Tue, 26 Apr 2016 09:45:34 -0400

I've worn mine to retirement ceremonies and follow Navy equivalent regs. Even at 66 I'm still within proscribed military appearance standards in a uniform.

Response by SFC Michael Houlihan made Apr 28 at 2016 12:43 PM

SFC Michael Houlihan — Thu, 28 Apr 2016 12:43:36 -0400

How does one become a Sergeant and not know the regulation covering the wearing of the uniform. Did you go to PLDC, WLC or what ever they call it now? How do you do uniform inspections if you don't know the regulation? All these brotherly love replies do not solve the underlying issue which is we are promoting soldiers to the NCO ranks that do not have basic leadership knowledge.

Response by SGT Jamie Jackson made May 5 at 2016 9:27 PM

SGT Jamie Jackson — Thu, 05 May 2016 21:27:01 -0400

Just a clarification on this.....it's for my own knowledge.....I'm not calling our a "retiree".....I'm retireed, I would like to know facts instead of looking like ass if I chose to dawn my dress uniform, leaders or NCO'S (some here on RP) quick to judge someone....great leaders.

Response by SSgt Donnavon Smith made Oct 9 at 2016 12:44 AM

SSgt Donnavon Smith — Sun, 09 Oct 2016 00:44:47 -0400

military regs do not apply to civilians here is the only one that matters 10 U.S. Code § 772

Response by SSG James West made Apr 5 at 2017 10:28 AM

SSG James West — Wed, 05 Apr 2017 10:28:14 -0400

I have question as a retiree can I buy and wear the New Army dress Uniform I retired before they were issued. I use to wear the dress green uniform. I have commissioning to go to.

Response by MSgt Bill Loveli made Apr 28 at 2017 7:27 AM

MSgt Bill Loveli — Fri, 28 Apr 2017 07:27:40 -0400

Don't know about other services but retired Marines may wear any uniforms as long as they comply with grooming standards.
As to non retired veterans, not permitted.

Response by SGM Arthur Palmer made Jul 9 at 2017 4:20 AM

SGM Arthur Palmer — Sun, 09 Jul 2017 04:20:54 -0400

670-1. But it is ambiguous on some issues. It shows wearing a beret with the uniform. Talks about wearing the service hat. I am wearing to my grandsons AIT graduation.

Response by SGM Arthur Palmer made Jul 9 at 2017 6:48 AM

SGM Arthur Palmer — Sun, 09 Jul 2017 06:48:22 -0400

I am attending an AIT graduation and will be wearing the current Dress Blue uniform. Do I wear the Beret with the uniform.

Response by CPL Danny Torres made Aug 10 at 2017 5:43 PM

CPL Danny Torres — Thu, 10 Aug 2017 17:43:54 -0400

670-1 IS THE BIBLE IN THE WEAR AND APPERANCE OF THE REAL SOLDIER. I will not change anything

Response by SGM Bill Frazer made May 28 at 2018 11:09 AM

SGM Bill Frazer — Mon, 28 May 2018 11:09:09 -0400

Yes

Response by SPC Brent V made Apr 12 at 2019 5:11 PM

SPC Brent V — Fri, 12 Apr 2019 17:11:15 -0400

I deployed during operation enduring freedom honorably. and was discharged general under honorable conditions. Is it agains regulations to wear my dress blue uniform to a probate court custody matter? I want the judge to know who they are trying to keep my child away from.