SFC Private RallyPoint Member5217797<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>there a TIG requirement to retire? For example if I made MSG at 19 years can I still retire at 20? Or will I need to stay in until 22 years?Is there a TIG requirement to retire? For example if I made MSG at 19 years can I still retire at 20? Or will I need to stay in until 22?2019-11-09T09:36:47-05:00SFC Private RallyPoint Member5217797<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>there a TIG requirement to retire? For example if I made MSG at 19 years can I still retire at 20? Or will I need to stay in until 22 years?Is there a TIG requirement to retire? For example if I made MSG at 19 years can I still retire at 20? Or will I need to stay in until 22?2019-11-09T09:36:47-05:002019-11-09T09:36:47-05:00SFC Robert Walton5217955<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Unless it has changed no you can still retire at 20. But seems to me you have to wear it for a while to retire with it. Guard and reserve may be different.Response by SFC Robert Walton made Nov 9 at 2019 10:35 AM2019-11-09T10:35:50-05:002019-11-09T10:35:50-05:00SFC Private RallyPoint Member5218091<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>You can still retire at 20 and not keep the rank at retirement. But, HRC can also deny your retirement because you accepted the promotion. I just saw this happen a year ago for someone who accepted MSG and tried to retire. They denied it and said "strengths do not support" and sent him to Korea.Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 9 at 2019 11:32 AM2019-11-09T11:32:05-05:002019-11-09T11:32:05-05:00SGM Steve Wettstein5218204<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Unless you want to retire as a SFC, you will need to be a MSG/1SG until you do 3 years at the E8 pay grade.Response by SGM Steve Wettstein made Nov 9 at 2019 12:17 PM2019-11-09T12:17:05-05:002019-11-09T12:17:05-05:00SFC Robert Bundrick5218480<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>These guys have pretty much summed it up. Unless you plan on staying the extra three years to maintain your E8 pay then you'll need to stay the course. If you know for sure you want out at twenty then I believe you can ask to have your name removed from consideration to avoid the possibility of being denied if you choose to retire before the three years to maintain the pay grade. Another thing you must think about is where you are on that list, it could take six months to a year to get promoted and then the three year mark starts. Good luck!Response by SFC Robert Bundrick made Nov 9 at 2019 1:53 PM2019-11-09T13:53:52-05:002019-11-09T13:53:52-05:00SSG Private RallyPoint Member5218775<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>What SGM Wettstein said, if you don't want to get your retirement for MSG, retire at 20. If you want MSG retirement, go to 22 for your high three.Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 9 at 2019 4:39 PM2019-11-09T16:39:09-05:002019-11-09T16:39:09-05:00COL Private RallyPoint Member5219244<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>3 yearsResponse by COL Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 9 at 2019 7:37 PM2019-11-09T19:37:08-05:002019-11-09T19:37:08-05:00SFC Private RallyPoint Member5221137<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Thanks for answering my question guys?Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 10 at 2019 11:29 AM2019-11-10T11:29:53-05:002019-11-10T11:29:53-05:002019-11-09T09:36:47-05:00