Is there a variation of the Bowline that can be used in demo?

2015-07-20T23:43:32-04:00

While I was on the final FTX for AIT we set up some charges which were then tied into a line main. One of my drill sergeants tied a couple charges in with a knot that looked for all the world like a bowline. I'm fairly certain he told me that's what it was, but wouldn't explain any further. I know it was not a gregory or sapper knot, or any of the "book" tie ins. Does anyone know of a variation of the bowline that could be used to tie to a main? I don't see how the bowline would reliably tighten up to initiate the det cord.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 21 at 2015 12:21 AM

2015-07-21T00:21:36-04:00

The "Sapper Knot" as we call it is a simple slip knot that can be pulled tight with 3 points of contact that's more that enough to to successfully initiate the det cord. That could be what he used.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 21 at 2015 1:01 AM

2015-07-21T01:01:22-04:00

There is a variation of the sapper knot that I know for sure isnt in the books. And I'm quite certain that the knot you are talking about is the knot he used. It is a very quick and simple knot that will get the job done every time without fail.

Response by SFC Dwayne Gilson made Jul 21 at 2015 7:56 AM

2015-07-21T07:56:07-04:00

All you need is a tight single over hand knot. As long as the details cord is touching it will detonate. That is all the Der cord clip did kept the two pieces of details cord in contact with each other.

Response by PV2 Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 25 at 2015 7:07 AM

2015-10-25T07:07:02-04:00

To be honest the only thing that looks like a bowline is a Gregory not but u can tie alot of different knot as long as there are 3 points of contact

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 17 at 2017 7:55 AM

2017-08-17T07:55:57-04:00

Their is a demo knot called a Yohe knot named for the guy that came up with it much easier than the bowline.. I don't know if it is still taught but the old 5-34 had drawing of it..

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 12 at 2018 6:12 PM

2018-01-12T18:12:32-05:00

We used a garth hitch with an extra turn for enough contact.