https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/is-there-a-variation-of-the-bowline-that-can-be-used-in-demo <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>While I was on the final FTX for AIT we set up some charges which were then tied into a line main. One of my drill sergeants tied a couple charges in with a knot that looked for all the world like a bowline. I'm fairly certain he told me that's what it was, but wouldn't explain any further. I know it was not a gregory or sapper knot, or any of the "book" tie ins. Does anyone know of a variation of the bowline that could be used to tie to a main? I don't see how the bowline would reliably tighten up to initiate the det cord. Mon, 20 Jul 2015 23:43:32 -0400 https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/is-there-a-variation-of-the-bowline-that-can-be-used-in-demo <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>While I was on the final FTX for AIT we set up some charges which were then tied into a line main. One of my drill sergeants tied a couple charges in with a knot that looked for all the world like a bowline. I'm fairly certain he told me that's what it was, but wouldn't explain any further. I know it was not a gregory or sapper knot, or any of the "book" tie ins. Does anyone know of a variation of the bowline that could be used to tie to a main? I don't see how the bowline would reliably tighten up to initiate the det cord. SSgt Private RallyPoint Member Mon, 20 Jul 2015 23:43:32 -0400 2015-07-20T23:43:32-04:00 https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/is-there-a-variation-of-the-bowline-that-can-be-used-in-demo?n=830736&urlhash=830736 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>The "Sapper Knot" as we call it is a simple slip knot that can be pulled tight with 3 points of contact that's more that enough to to successfully initiate the det cord. That could be what he used. SGT Private RallyPoint Member Tue, 21 Jul 2015 00:21:36 -0400 2015-07-21T00:21:36-04:00 https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/is-there-a-variation-of-the-bowline-that-can-be-used-in-demo?n=830794&urlhash=830794 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>There is a variation of the sapper knot that I know for sure isnt in the books. And I'm quite certain that the knot you are talking about is the knot he used. It is a very quick and simple knot that will get the job done every time without fail. SGT Private RallyPoint Member Tue, 21 Jul 2015 01:01:22 -0400 2015-07-21T01:01:22-04:00 https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/is-there-a-variation-of-the-bowline-that-can-be-used-in-demo?n=831045&urlhash=831045 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>All you need is a tight single over hand knot. As long as the details cord is touching it will detonate. That is all the Der cord clip did kept the two pieces of details cord in contact with each other. SFC Dwayne Gilson Tue, 21 Jul 2015 07:56:07 -0400 2015-07-21T07:56:07-04:00 https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/is-there-a-variation-of-the-bowline-that-can-be-used-in-demo?n=1064423&urlhash=1064423 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>To be honest the only thing that looks like a bowline is a Gregory not but u can tie alot of different knot as long as there are 3 points of contact PV2 Private RallyPoint Member Sun, 25 Oct 2015 07:07:02 -0400 2015-10-25T07:07:02-04:00 https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/is-there-a-variation-of-the-bowline-that-can-be-used-in-demo?n=2840796&urlhash=2840796 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Their is a demo knot called a Yohe knot named for the guy that came up with it much easier than the bowline.. I don&#39;t know if it is still taught but the old 5-34 had drawing of it.. SFC Private RallyPoint Member Thu, 17 Aug 2017 07:55:57 -0400 2017-08-17T07:55:57-04:00 https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/is-there-a-variation-of-the-bowline-that-can-be-used-in-demo?n=3251355&urlhash=3251355 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>We used a garth hitch with an extra turn for enough contact. SGT Private RallyPoint Member Fri, 12 Jan 2018 18:12:32 -0500 2018-01-12T18:12:32-05:00 2015-07-20T23:43:32-04:00