Posted on Mar 14, 2015
Is there a way to get the profiling of Soldiers at TMC fixed?
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Here is the scenario; I had a 23 year old Soldier who collapsed at work on a Wednesday and was taken to the emergency room.
After some testing it was determined that she needed a Pacemaker. It was placed in on a Friday night. She was released from the hospital on Saturday afternoon.
The Soldier then went to the TMC who expected her to return to work immediately without any convalescent leave. I mean she just had a pacemaker put in and we had to go through Casualty assistance to get her Mother up here from PA. The Mother did not make it until after the surgery.
When the Commander called to verify he was told " I do not tell you how to do your job! Do not tell me how to do mine!"
I have seen Soldiers get more days off for Diarrhea.
I did not believe it was right an informed her to see the Doctor who did the surgery to get a more defined explanation of the time needed to recover.
It just seems like they randomly decide instead of clear manner.
What do all of you think?
After some testing it was determined that she needed a Pacemaker. It was placed in on a Friday night. She was released from the hospital on Saturday afternoon.
The Soldier then went to the TMC who expected her to return to work immediately without any convalescent leave. I mean she just had a pacemaker put in and we had to go through Casualty assistance to get her Mother up here from PA. The Mother did not make it until after the surgery.
When the Commander called to verify he was told " I do not tell you how to do your job! Do not tell me how to do mine!"
I have seen Soldiers get more days off for Diarrhea.
I did not believe it was right an informed her to see the Doctor who did the surgery to get a more defined explanation of the time needed to recover.
It just seems like they randomly decide instead of clear manner.
What do all of you think?
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Unfortunately we as a system are broken, it is not just at the physician level. I tore my rotator cuff was only partial when they found it but because of staffing at the hospital where I work I had to wait 7 months for them to sign off on getting it fixed and by the time I had surgery what would have been a simple fix with maybe 3-4 months of rehab I had a complete tear and looking at 1 year and may never get 100% of my use back. The whole system needs to be fixed, we have so many malingerers that is backs the system up and we are very short on providers. This is one reason why the services are looking to get more NP's in the system but that will take time because of the pressure from the medical community we now must have our Doctorate which will delay for at least 3 years from the time they decide that is what they want to do. It will take time to fix but on the civilian side it is not much better long wait times for appointment over use of the ER, the whole system is broken.
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I have a friend who is an OBGYN Doctor person. :) She used to be in the Air-Force.
I know the whole community is backed up with silliness. I have a break and dealt with the civilian sector as well.
I am not sure of the solution but to tell someone who just had a Pacemaker put it to return to work is ridiculous. That is a life altering event which is not faked one bit.
I know the whole community is backed up with silliness. I have a break and dealt with the civilian sector as well.
I am not sure of the solution but to tell someone who just had a Pacemaker put it to return to work is ridiculous. That is a life altering event which is not faked one bit.
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I agree with you please don't think I don't. My comment about malingerers simply was because of them the system is backed up far worse then it should be. She should never have been returned to work so soon, she is not suppose to even lift her arm above her head for at least 6 weeks. I have a hard time with the commander's that make the decision based on provider recommendations unless they are providers themselves and I commend the one that went to bat for his soldier and made sure she was taken care of.
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Roger Ma'am. I instructed her to return to the hospital where the surgery was and get better paperwork with more clarifications on the limitations.
I can tell you care as you know about the arm lifting and when I saw her she was O.K. but I could tell she was not comfortable.
I know we have some great providers. Continue to be Awesome.
I can tell you care as you know about the arm lifting and when I saw her she was O.K. but I could tell she was not comfortable.
I know we have some great providers. Continue to be Awesome.
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MAJ (Join to see)
SSG (P) Keith Fay, Thanks and I do care it is one of the reasons I want to become a Family Nurse Practitioner, I want people to be taken care of. I have met some in they military that I really like and others who need to go to "Charm school" because of the way they treat people. The doctor that did my shoulder told me he could look at 100 soldiers and 1 in 4 would have the same problem and live with it so why was I having an issue. This was about the time my husband ripped him a new one for not listening to his patient who was trying to tell him what the issue is. I love that man for doing it cause it changed how the doctor treated me. Not all the soldiers do what I do everyday so their pain can not be the same. You are right for standing up for her and you are a leader the Army needs to keep because you show you care.
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Thank You, Sir. I am just tired of those who fake it get better treatment than those who have real health issues.
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In the Marines, we have 2 types of leave, annual (charged), and "basket" (uncharged). If the commander has a concern that there is an unsafe condition resulting from her surgery, he can grant a "liberty" for up to 48 hours at his own discretion, while he runs it up the flagpole. At that point, if the situation is not resolved to his satisfaction, by getting the profile changed, he can have her fill out basket leave paperwork for what he deems an appropriate amount of time, and have her "check in" periodically (call each morning, or once per week, etc).
During this, file an IG complaint. If something is wrong, ring the gong. You're taking care of your soldier using "appropriate command discretion" and mitigating chances of it being abused.
During this, file an IG complaint. If something is wrong, ring the gong. You're taking care of your soldier using "appropriate command discretion" and mitigating chances of it being abused.
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