Is there an actual regulation on the wear of the black fleece cap in PT indoors?

CW3 Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 22 Jan 2018 17:13:18 -0500

The black fleece cap is not part of the physical fitness components and is not listed as headgear according to ar670-1.

Response by CWO3 Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 22 at 2018 5:22 PM

CWO3 Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 22 Jan 2018 17:22:43 -0500

Not that I’m aware of. No!

Response by CW4 Guy Butler made Jan 22 at 2018 6:02 PM

CW4 Guy Butler — Mon, 22 Jan 2018 18:02:15 -0500

Per DA Pam 670-1, the fleece cap is an authorized accessory (and AR 670-1, para. 10-2, “note” directs to the DA Pam for accessories). The actual wear of the fleece cap is a WABC, so check the local guidance.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 22 at 2018 6:27 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 22 Jan 2018 18:27:24 -0500

I feel it may fall under this because the fleece cap is considered headgear:
AR 670-1 3–7. Required or prohibited wearing of the Army uniform
l. Soldiers will wear headgear with the Army uniform, except under the following circumstances:

(2) Soldiers will not wear headgear indoors, unless under arms in an official capacity, or when directed by the commander, such as for indoor ceremonial activities.

This can be found on page 16

Response by MAJ Christopher Daily made Jan 22 at 2018 6:54 PM

MAJ Christopher Daily — Mon, 22 Jan 2018 18:54:09 -0500

Here is your answer, IAW at DA PAM 670-1 PARA 18-12 c "The fleece cap is worn with the physical fitness uniform or the combat uniform, as prescribed by the commander." Your installation command should have a policy letter out regarding the wear of these items. We in Alaska have even further guidance having the Balaclava as well. If you do not have specific guidance covering this at your unit, you have to look at this in a manner fitting this accessory. You are correct in stating that it is not listed as headgear, rather listed as an Accessory. But the Beret is also listed as an Accessory and then the regulation goes on to state "..the standard headgear worn with the Army service uniform" So we have to apply some common sense and correlate that maybe, just maybe, the Fleece cap is headgear though not explicitly stated. But when in doubt grab your 1SG and go ask your Company Commander how he prescribes the usage of that "Accessory" and tell him CPT (P) Daily sent ya! But I would recommend you keep it low and protect the WOLF pack.

Response by MAJ Christopher Daily made Jan 22 at 2018 8:45 PM

MAJ Christopher Daily — Mon, 22 Jan 2018 20:45:13 -0500

Look under DA PAM 670-1. As I already stated there is an entire section titled headgear under which is listed fleece cap. and before anybody says that only pertains to combat uniform I think it's safe we can assume it doesn't stop becoming headgear just because it's with a different uniform.

Response by 1SG Frank Rocha made Jan 22 at 2018 8:51 PM

1SG Frank Rocha — Mon, 22 Jan 2018 20:51:50 -0500

Yes sir there is. AR 670-1 and DA PAM 670-1.
On your second point, how did you come to that conclusion sir? The reason I ask is because the referenced publication does not have a section dedicated to identifying what is and what is not considered headgear, the DA PAM does.

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 22 at 2018 9:34 PM

CW3 Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 22 Jan 2018 21:34:44 -0500

Thanks all