Is there anything that I can do for being wrongfully placed In the Reserves?

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 13 Apr 2018 20:52:09 -0400

I joined the U.S. Army reserves in December of 2015. It has always been in my best interest and career goal to make the U.S. Army a full-time profession, but I was told at MEPS that my high school diploma was a tier 2. Which I guess is equivalent to a GED. At the time I was struggling in the civilian world and I figured that joining the Reserves would at least help get my foot In the door. The recruiter that I was working with at the time also told me that I could make the switch easily. That was definitely misleading. Over the course of 2 1/2 years, I have been trying to go Active. I have turned in two DD Form 368's, but the first one had stalled out in battalion for a year and expired. I turned in another conditional release in October of 2017, and It is at the final approval stage. BUT I am hearing from my UA that most of them are being denied. Recently I had gone to an Air Force recruiter and he then evaluated my diploma and showed me that it is indeed a tier 1, and was wrongfully placed in the Reserves. I also went to two of the local Army recruiting offices and got a call back from one of the recruiters who also told me that my diploma showed as a Tier 1, not a Tier 2. On top of that, I have recently got in contact with a friend who graduated from the same high school as me, and joined 2 months before I did, and he was able to join Active. I never dropped out of high school, my high school diploma says "Diploma" on it, and all of the recruiters I've talked to has said that it's pretty shady that the person who evaluated my diploma would count it as a 12J. Since being put in the Reserves, it has caused a huge negative impact on my life. It is hurting me personally because for the past 3 years my life and career goals have been put on hold. I don't want to pursue another line of work, and I don't want to embark on a different career path. Since I just found out about my diploma, I was not able to include that in my justification memo. It has been very challenging as I must deal with a full-time civilian job and it has caused a strain and financial hardship on my life. The last thing I want to do is step on Army toes, but I have worked my Chain Of Command and the issues have gone unresolved or they sit on it. Someone's careless mistake has cost me my life, and withheld me from going active immediately. I know that at this point I will still need to get released from my unit to go Active, but is there anything I can do to expedite it since I am not supposed to be here in the first place? Is there any firepower that I have to get me Active with no problem? It has been extremely stressful knowing that I could have been Active, that 3 years of my life and career has been wasted, my life has not been able to grow and develop properly. It has been an uphill battle trying to go Active and I can't get a fair hearing as far as being allowed to go active.

Response by A Wiegert made Apr 13 at 2018 9:35 PM

A Wiegert — Fri, 13 Apr 2018 21:35:39 -0400

As a civilian, I have no answer for you, but I just wanted to say hang in there! Sounds like a really frustrating situation! Would your congressional rep or senator be of any help, I wonder?

Response by Sgt Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 13 at 2018 10:26 PM

Sgt Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 13 Apr 2018 22:26:08 -0400

SPC Private RallyPoint Member Please edit your Post and add the following Groups "Recruiter", "Army", and "Army Reserve". This will increase your chances of someone seeing your Post that will be able to advise you on your next steps. Good luck.

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Apr 13 at 2018 10:53 PM

Capt Daniel Goodman — Fri, 13 Apr 2018 22:53:32 -0400

You have a good deal of detail, obv useful, however, elagroate ifmyou can, OK? Other work outside, even if only in general as to type? Associates? Bachelors? Any college level coursework of any kind, amyepwhere, ever? If so, specific course titles, grades, GPAs, so far as you can elaborate? Specific goals? Senior enlisted? Warrant? Commissioned? Flight? Clinical fields of any kind? I can suggest more, perhaps, however, knowing more would certainly help, so, trust !e, I speak a lotmaboutnsudh questions as yours on here, do a really detailed, thorough bio sketch, reading, hobbies, interests, sports, martial arts? Would you want to go interservice? Would you ne willing to try to go interservice? Let !e send more !eanwile, elaborate if youmcam, as I'd said, I'll try to suggest more, OK?

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Apr 13 at 2018 10:54 PM

Capt Daniel Goodman — Fri, 13 Apr 2018 22:54:04 -0400

And look at the education links I'd been sending in earlier tonight, you'd find them of use, promised OK?

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Apr 13 at 2018 10:54 PM

Capt Daniel Goodman — Fri, 13 Apr 2018 22:54:33 -0400

Trust !e, look through them, tpulp perceive why they'd ne useful, honest....

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Apr 13 at 2018 11:08 PM

Capt Daniel Goodman — Fri, 13 Apr 2018 23:08:53 -0400

http://www.excelsior.edu

Look at this, very real, formerly part of NYS govt, very SVC frieldnly, o got a 2md Bach through them in !ath, a friend got his as well, in !ath, and went Navy OCS issong it....

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Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Apr 13 at 2018 11:09 PM

Capt Daniel Goodman — Fri, 13 Apr 2018 23:09:19 -0400

http://www.tesu.edu

This is in NJ, fairly equivalent....

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Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Apr 13 at 2018 11:11 PM

Capt Daniel Goodman — Fri, 13 Apr 2018 23:11:19 -0400

http://www.charteroak.edu

This one is in CT, also comparable....

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Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Apr 13 at 2018 11:14 PM

Capt Daniel Goodman — Fri, 13 Apr 2018 23:14:19 -0400

http://www.uopeople.edu

This isn't a panacea, I'm unsure of the svcs, VA, or industry accepts them, they're not regionally accredited, they're under DETC formerly NHSC, which is Federally recognized...they got Vatican endorsement recently, they have assocs and bach in bus admin, comp sci (CS), and health SDI, as we'll as an MBA...they have no tuition, only admin and exam fees, prorated by country, their offs are in Calif...dont do them first thing, you'd really need to see if they'd ne acceptable, I merely suggest them as a possibility, you'd really need to ask first, OK?

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Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Apr 13 at 2018 11:17 PM

Capt Daniel Goodman — Fri, 13 Apr 2018 23:17:01 -0400

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_College_of_the_Air_Force

I'm unsure if Army or other SVC enlisted can use CCAF, one needs a full USAF AFSC, I'm unsure if an Army MOS might qualify, however, you might call and ask, I'd expect other SVC enlisted most likely have tried be for as well....

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Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Apr 13 at 2018 11:18 PM

Capt Daniel Goodman — Fri, 13 Apr 2018 23:18:14 -0400

Look up DANTES, CLEP, and the A!er Council on Educ (ACE) military/veteran ofc as well, OK?

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 14 at 2018 1:48 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 14 Apr 2018 13:48:33 -0400

The short answer is that no one forced you to sign a contract. That’s going to be the Army line you hear from a lot of leadership. Could you have asked more questions at MEPS and talked to other recruiters? Maybe...but that won’t help you now.

I’m assuming you signed a standard 6yr TPU / 2yr IRR contract. That doesn’t mean you’re obligated to stay in your assigned unit or MOS. Definitely keep trying to go active if that is your wish, but also look at potentially reclassing or changing units.

Just remember your CoC has ultimate approval authority and unless you can prove someone forced you into a contract under false pretenses, you have to stick it out.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 12 at 2018 11:42 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 12 Sep 2018 11:42:02 -0400

You need your 368 completely walked through your commissioned chain of command for approval, you are already enlisted in army reserves, the business rules will apply to your pay grade, you may qualify for a different MOS so have an open mind if you are eligible for enlistment through the prior service business rules, keep me updated with your progress or assistance needed

Response by SSG Steven Borders made Sep 12 at 2018 12:10 PM

SSG Steven Borders — Wed, 12 Sep 2018 12:10:45 -0400

SPC Private RallyPoint Member A couple things you can do. Talk to Jag and see if there is anything you can do about having your Deploma listed as a Teir 2. That still shouldn't have stopped you with going Active Duty though. 2. Continue to try and get a conditional release, when is your ETS with the reserves? You can try going into the IRR and then from there go Active. You might ask about that with your Recruiter. Is your unit a RFX unit? If it is you are better off waiting till your ETS date and then go Active Duty. I know that RFX unites are not letting go of people I am a UA, and have a couple of soldiers that want to go Active that have been denied. Good luck, I wish I had more help for you.