Is this a 2nd or 4th Amendment issue?

2015-04-17T09:11:04-04:00

http://www.stripes.com/senator-veterans-still-losing-gun-rights-because-of-va-reporting-1.340564

Senator: Veterans still losing gun rights because of VA reporting

A Senate panel chairman rekindled a debate Wednesday over whether veterans who cannot manage their own benefits should be considered “mentally defective” by the FBI and barred from buying guns.

Response by CPL David Salazar made Apr 17 at 2015 9:24 AM

2015-04-17T09:24:27-04:00

Well, calling it a 4th ammendment issue would be downright wrong. Everytime the VA takes an adverse action against a Veteran, the Veteran is notified and is given 3 months to respond before any action takes effect. A Veteran gets due process before he's assigned a fiduciary. I'd say it's a second ammendnet issue.

Response by SSG Buddy Kemper made Apr 17 at 2015 9:37 AM

2015-04-17T09:37:09-04:00

yes

Response by Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS made Apr 17 at 2015 9:54 AM

2015-04-17T09:54:01-04:00

Individual Rights do not exist in a vacuum. Just because something is one Right doesn't mean it is also another Right as well.

In this case, it is BOTH.

The Right to self defense is inherent. You have the Right to defend yourself period. No amount of Due Process takes that away.

What this is about, is whether there is appropriate mechanisms in place (Due Process) to ensure Rights are not being violated. In this case, is you Medical Privacy being violated? Is your Second Amendment Rights being violated? Does it matter which Right is being violated? Shouldn't there be a JUDGE involved, not an "administrative" process? That's the linchpin of Due Process.

Response by SSG John Erny made Apr 17 at 2015 10:12 AM

2015-04-17T10:12:40-04:00

Typical Liberal anti #2A BS. They would take all veterans 2A rights away if they could. In their pathetic little minds we are a threat to them.

Response by Capt Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 17 at 2015 10:26 AM

2015-04-17T10:26:51-04:00

The question becomes who is making the decision and what are the criteria.

Some could be argued that anyone wanting a gun is mentally troubled. Others could argue that one who killed others was justified.

Lots and lots of areas for abuse here.

Response by SSG John Erny made Apr 17 at 2015 10:36 AM

2015-04-17T10:36:03-04:00

OK, lets say a veteran is badly injured in a car wreck and will be hospitalized by the VA for 6 months. The veteran is not mentally Ill, the veteran is injured and will recover. The VA says while your hear you are going to have to get some one to manage your bills back home. Should that veteran loose their 2A rights? Hell No!