Is this a 2nd or 4th Amendment issue? https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/is-this-a-2nd-or-4th-amendment-issue <div class="images-v2-count-1"><div class="content-picture image-v2-number-1" id="image-34345"> <div class="social_icons social-buttons-on-image"> <a href='https://www.facebook.com/sharer/sharer.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallypoint.com%2Fanswers%2Fis-this-a-2nd-or-4th-amendment-issue%3Futm_source%3DFacebook%26utm_medium%3Dorganic%26utm_campaign%3DShare%20to%20facebook' target="_blank" class='social-share-button facebook-share-button'><i class="fa fa-facebook-f"></i></a> <a href="https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?text=Is+this+a+2nd+or+4th+Amendment+issue%3F&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallypoint.com%2Fanswers%2Fis-this-a-2nd-or-4th-amendment-issue&amp;via=RallyPoint" target="_blank" class="social-share-button twitter-custom-share-button"><i class="fa fa-twitter"></i></a> <a href="mailto:?subject=Check this out on RallyPoint!&body=Hi, I thought you would find this interesting:%0D%0AIs this a 2nd or 4th Amendment issue?%0D%0A %0D%0AHere is the link: https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/is-this-a-2nd-or-4th-amendment-issue" target="_blank" class="social-share-button email-share-button"><i class="fa fa-envelope"></i></a> </div> <a class="fancybox" rel="5ef5cedb709fe035415cd43db523d0fc" href="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/034/345/for_gallery_v2/vet_gun.jpg"><img src="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/034/345/large_v3/vet_gun.jpg" alt="Vet gun" /></a></div></div><a target="_blank" href="http://www.stripes.com/senator-veterans-still-losing-gun-rights-because-of-va-reporting-1.340564">http://www.stripes.com/senator-veterans-still-losing-gun-rights-because-of-va-reporting-1.340564</a> <div class="pta-link-card answers-template-image type-default"> <div class="pta-link-card-picture"> <img src="https://d26horl2n8pviu.cloudfront.net/link_data_pictures/images/000/012/187/qrc/image.jpg?1443038910"> </div> <div class="pta-link-card-content"> <p class="pta-link-card-title"> <a target="blank" href="http://www.stripes.com/senator-veterans-still-losing-gun-rights-because-of-va-reporting-1.340564">Senator: Veterans still losing gun rights because of VA reporting</a> </p> <p class="pta-link-card-description">A Senate panel chairman rekindled a debate Wednesday over whether veterans who cannot manage their own benefits should be considered “mentally defective” by the FBI and barred from buying guns.</p> </div> <div class="clearfix"></div> </div> Fri, 17 Apr 2015 09:11:04 -0400 Is this a 2nd or 4th Amendment issue? 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Fri, 17 Apr 2015 09:11:04 -0400 2015-04-17T09:11:04-04:00 Response by CPL David Salazar made Apr 17 at 2015 9:24 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/is-this-a-2nd-or-4th-amendment-issue?n=597966&urlhash=597966 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Well, calling it a 4th ammendment issue would be downright wrong. Everytime the VA takes an adverse action against a Veteran, the Veteran is notified and is given 3 months to respond before any action takes effect. A Veteran gets due process before he's assigned a fiduciary. I'd say it's a second ammendnet issue. CPL David Salazar Fri, 17 Apr 2015 09:24:27 -0400 2015-04-17T09:24:27-04:00 Response by SSG Buddy Kemper made Apr 17 at 2015 9:37 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/is-this-a-2nd-or-4th-amendment-issue?n=597990&urlhash=597990 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>yes SSG Buddy Kemper Fri, 17 Apr 2015 09:37:09 -0400 2015-04-17T09:37:09-04:00 Response by Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS made Apr 17 at 2015 9:54 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/is-this-a-2nd-or-4th-amendment-issue?n=598026&urlhash=598026 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Individual Rights do not exist in a vacuum. Just because something is one Right doesn't mean it is also another Right as well.<br /><br />In this case, it is BOTH.<br /><br />The Right to self defense is inherent. You have the Right to defend yourself period. No amount of Due Process takes that away. <br /><br />What this is about, is whether there is appropriate mechanisms in place (Due Process) to ensure Rights are not being violated. In this case, is you Medical Privacy being violated? Is your Second Amendment Rights being violated? Does it matter which Right is being violated? Shouldn't there be a JUDGE involved, not an "administrative" process? That's the linchpin of Due Process. Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS Fri, 17 Apr 2015 09:54:01 -0400 2015-04-17T09:54:01-04:00 Response by SSG John Erny made Apr 17 at 2015 10:12 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/is-this-a-2nd-or-4th-amendment-issue?n=598073&urlhash=598073 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Typical Liberal anti #2A BS. They would take all veterans 2A rights away if they could. In their pathetic little minds we are a threat to them. SSG John Erny Fri, 17 Apr 2015 10:12:40 -0400 2015-04-17T10:12:40-04:00 Response by Capt Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 17 at 2015 10:26 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/is-this-a-2nd-or-4th-amendment-issue?n=598105&urlhash=598105 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>The question becomes who is making the decision and what are the criteria.<br /><br />Some could be argued that anyone wanting a gun is mentally troubled. Others could argue that one who killed others was justified. <br /><br />Lots and lots of areas for abuse here. Capt Private RallyPoint Member Fri, 17 Apr 2015 10:26:51 -0400 2015-04-17T10:26:51-04:00 Response by SSG John Erny made Apr 17 at 2015 10:36 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/is-this-a-2nd-or-4th-amendment-issue?n=598119&urlhash=598119 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>OK, lets say a veteran is badly injured in a car wreck and will be hospitalized by the VA for 6 months. The veteran is not mentally Ill, the veteran is injured and will recover. The VA says while your hear you are going to have to get some one to manage your bills back home. Should that veteran loose their 2A rights? Hell No! SSG John Erny Fri, 17 Apr 2015 10:36:03 -0400 2015-04-17T10:36:03-04:00 2015-04-17T09:11:04-04:00