Is this command over reach?

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 09 Apr 2015 15:21:39 -0400

I just receiver this photo in a message. Is this not offensive? They put their signs up over the handicapped spots? Please way in on this as I returned the message an said to call them on it and there is no assigned parking anymore.

Response by ENS Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 9 at 2015 3:32 PM

ENS Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 09 Apr 2015 15:32:36 -0400

Step 1: Wait for the handicapped parking spot to be filled by a vehicle that doesn't have a placard
Step 2: Remove white sign hanging over the Handicapped parking sign
Step 3: Call it in
Step 4: Pull out your smart phone and post the results

Response by WO1 Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 9 at 2015 3:47 PM

WO1 Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 09 Apr 2015 15:47:40 -0400

Why can't they just move the signs one space over?

Response by CW2 Joseph Evans made Apr 9 at 2015 5:15 PM

CW2 Joseph Evans — Thu, 09 Apr 2015 17:15:03 -0400

Rank has it's privilege. Especially when you are getting away with a post policy violation... And otherwise absolving yourself of command responsibility.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 9 at 2015 5:20 PM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 09 Apr 2015 17:20:55 -0400

I'd say call the MPs or IG and let get far away

Response by LCpl Mark Lefler made Apr 9 at 2015 5:23 PM

LCpl Mark Lefler — Thu, 09 Apr 2015 17:23:37 -0400

isnt this straight up illegal?

Response by Maj Chris Nelson made Apr 9 at 2015 5:27 PM

Maj Chris Nelson — Thu, 09 Apr 2015 17:27:34 -0400

I have reported flagrant parking violations such as this...in the case I reported, EMPTY parking lot, Security Forces car parked in the handicapped parking spot closest to building (no lights on). I walked up (out of uniform) and informed them they were parked in a handicapped parking spot. They acknowledged that and told me to move along. I witnessed an additional member come out with coffee and donuts. I logged the license plate of the security forces car and the time/date. All 3 were wearing jackets that had no rank/names on them....I reported this up through the Commanders action line. I got feedback the following week stating that all 3 were relegated to foot patrol of the base perimeter for at least the next month.

Handicap parking spots may be moved as mission needs (we do this occasionally where I am stationed) HOWEVER: it is for such things as maintenance, force protection measures, and such... Inspection teams, Base Commander (higher then the BN Commander and BN CSM!) are normally either in the next closest parking spot OR in our "traffic circle" which is a "no parking, patient pick-up/drop-off" zone.....The ratio of parking spots to handicap parking slots is pretty much a governed thing....Must abide by type of issue. IF this photo is true, AND the Handicap parking slots were not relocated (and appropriate), then I feel that the BN CC/CSM are WRONG and I would call out either one or both on it.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 9 at 2015 5:31 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 09 Apr 2015 17:31:41 -0400

Disregarding the parking stall, the first thing I recognized is this facility. I know this facility, and I know it isn't protected by a chain-link fence. It is accessable to the public. May as well tell ISIS or any home grown terrorist who the BC and the CSM is.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 9 at 2015 7:19 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 09 Apr 2015 19:19:11 -0400

this can't be legitimate

Response by SGT Richard H. made Apr 9 at 2015 8:11 PM

SGT Richard H. — Thu, 09 Apr 2015 20:11:37 -0400

I think it's overreach....but...the signs look like they are printed on paper and taped to the HC signs, so it may just be something temporary someone did for an event or something along those lines. I would honestly need more context to be very upset about it.

Response by PO3 John Jeter made Apr 9 at 2015 9:17 PM

PO3 John Jeter — Thu, 09 Apr 2015 21:17:24 -0400

I would hope and pray the sign was placed there as a prank or maybe someone disliked that person enough to put themselves at some professional risk by implying a certain lack of ability...... My personal belief is that any leader who would actually usurp a handicapped parking spot by virtue of his authority needs........"reeducation?"........ I see below where this is a reserve unit which makes it all the more important for the leaders to set the proper example. If, as has been mentioned, this is a repeated offense it needs to be addressed properly from above.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 11 at 2015 12:18 PM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 11 Apr 2015 12:18:19 -0400

So it is Sat 11Apr at the Army Reserve center in Green Bay, WI I guess the Handicap symbol painted on the asphalt was not a big enough, CSM and Commander parked in the spots anyway. I don't understand why with all the NCOs and Officers that are at this facility have not said anything. But I guess when you don't look around at you surrounding you don't see things that are out of the norm. The Soldier that took the photos was questioned why they were taking photos of the vehicles. I am hoping that this gross over reach of power is corrected.

Response by LCDR Jamie Galus made Apr 11 at 2015 3:54 PM

LCDR Jamie Galus — Sat, 11 Apr 2015 15:54:57 -0400

So....why doesn't someone forward this photo the Brigade CSM?

Response by TSgt Tommy Amparano made Oct 4 at 2017 6:14 PM

TSgt Tommy Amparano — Wed, 04 Oct 2017 18:14:01 -0400

Pretty sure it is a violation of the Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 6 at 2017 3:37 AM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 06 Oct 2017 03:37:10 -0400

If you have personal knowledge of this situation, why don’t you just report it?