SSG Private RallyPoint Member 1319299 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I&#39;ve had people- friends, peers, superiors, and even some people on here- ask me if I&#39;ve ever considered becoming a Warrant Officer, or suggest I put my packet in. And lately I&#39;ve been giving it some thought on whether I should submit my packet or not. I love being an NCO and working with and taking care of troops, I also had a goal to retire as a CSM. But like everything else in life things change. So my question is is Warrant Officer the way to go? What are pros and cons, what are the benefits both short and long term, etc? Is Warrant officer the way to go? 2016-02-21T15:18:25-05:00 SSG Private RallyPoint Member 1319299 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I&#39;ve had people- friends, peers, superiors, and even some people on here- ask me if I&#39;ve ever considered becoming a Warrant Officer, or suggest I put my packet in. And lately I&#39;ve been giving it some thought on whether I should submit my packet or not. I love being an NCO and working with and taking care of troops, I also had a goal to retire as a CSM. But like everything else in life things change. So my question is is Warrant Officer the way to go? What are pros and cons, what are the benefits both short and long term, etc? Is Warrant officer the way to go? 2016-02-21T15:18:25-05:00 2016-02-21T15:18:25-05:00 LTC Private RallyPoint Member 1319323 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>If you are over 34 and you have logistics experience..then go for it! Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 21 at 2016 3:29 PM 2016-02-21T15:29:31-05:00 2016-02-21T15:29:31-05:00 SSG Leo Bell 1319329 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I would say go for it. I had and E7 that went warrant and I respected her more then ever after she made it. You should do it. It will further your career and let you still be with the troops. You might have more paper work to do. Good luck with your decision, you will be supported either way. Response by SSG Leo Bell made Feb 21 at 2016 3:31 PM 2016-02-21T15:31:34-05:00 2016-02-21T15:31:34-05:00 CSM William Payne 1319356 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I&#39;ve known two CSMs that decided to go Warrant. If you think you are planning to stay around for the long haul it is definelty worth dropping your packet. Good luck in whatever you decide. Response by CSM William Payne made Feb 21 at 2016 3:47 PM 2016-02-21T15:47:16-05:00 2016-02-21T15:47:16-05:00 SFC Kenneth Hunnell 1319524 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Do what makes you happy. It will be you that you have to live with Response by SFC Kenneth Hunnell made Feb 21 at 2016 5:03 PM 2016-02-21T17:03:44-05:00 2016-02-21T17:03:44-05:00 SFC Richard Graczyk 1319571 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>If your MOS has Warrant slots then check it out and go for it. For us in CA we don't have that option, but several have gone to flight school. Response by SFC Richard Graczyk made Feb 21 at 2016 5:25 PM 2016-02-21T17:25:01-05:00 2016-02-21T17:25:01-05:00 MAJ Javier Rivera 1319821 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>That is a very personal decision. The best advice I can give is to talk with your unit's Techs and seek their advice. They should tell you pretty much what you need about the field an - if you decide to go that route- help you out your packe together since it is a requirement to get their endorsement. Response by MAJ Javier Rivera made Feb 21 at 2016 7:56 PM 2016-02-21T19:56:52-05:00 2016-02-21T19:56:52-05:00 SFC Private RallyPoint Member 1320169 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>From what I was told yes! Cause then you're on both sides of the fire! Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 21 at 2016 11:19 PM 2016-02-21T23:19:26-05:00 2016-02-21T23:19:26-05:00 SFC Private RallyPoint Member 1320909 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Considering the way the Army Reserve promotes NCO's going to WOCS is starting to become a serious player in my career. Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 22 at 2016 10:35 AM 2016-02-22T10:35:10-05:00 2016-02-22T10:35:10-05:00 1LT(P) Private RallyPoint Member 1321064 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>The Pros: You join an elite group of SMEs, that are in dire need throughout the Army<br />Cons: The amount of contracted jobs sometimes hinders the capability the Army Warrant Corps is set out to be. Everything is lobbied down to contractors. One good thing that came out of having a single platform JLTV, it has the POTENTIAL of giving Warrants on sch field the ability to be more hands on when it comes to being SMEs to a platform. My two cents from looking at it from the outside, as an officer. Response by 1LT(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 22 at 2016 11:40 AM 2016-02-22T11:40:22-05:00 2016-02-22T11:40:22-05:00 CPT Pedro Meza 1321659 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>A Chief/Warrant Officer is a Master Specialist in his MOS, which in a mater of speaking hold a higher prestige then a CSM, when it comes down to what you do for the Nation and Troops on the ground; one tells you to shave the other shaves the bad guys off you. Response by CPT Pedro Meza made Feb 22 at 2016 3:05 PM 2016-02-22T15:05:32-05:00 2016-02-22T15:05:32-05:00 CW4 Private RallyPoint Member 1322196 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Best decision I ever made in the military....there is no down side to it...except you have to buy your own uniforms or get them off E-bay...:) Response by CW4 Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 22 at 2016 6:08 PM 2016-02-22T18:08:29-05:00 2016-02-22T18:08:29-05:00 SSG Nick Tramontano 1322738 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>If you're in the right MOS, go for it. In the Guard and Reserve you have full time personnel (AGR) . I knew a guy that was admin and was assigned to BN.HQ. He made it to E-7 and when the unit was deactivated he was assigned to state Hq. He became a Warrant Officer and retired as a W-3. Response by SSG Nick Tramontano made Feb 22 at 2016 10:29 PM 2016-02-22T22:29:51-05:00 2016-02-22T22:29:51-05:00 CW5 Kenneth Foster 1323279 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>SSG the bigger question is do you love the field you are currently in. That is what drove me to become a Warrant in 1983. I had a desire to be a maintenance person longer than I wanted to be a NCO. It afforded me the ability to train Soldiers in maintenance and do it till I retired in 2014. Yes the pay is greater after SFC. But you get more respect unless you are CSM. Getting to CSM is as hard as getting to CW5, but it is worth it. Response by CW5 Kenneth Foster made Feb 23 at 2016 7:19 AM 2016-02-23T07:19:55-05:00 2016-02-23T07:19:55-05:00 CW2 Donald Loughrey 1323412 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Going Warrant was right for me because I did not want to become a CSM; rather I wanted to stay in the skill and advance in it. I was an SFC PSG when I decided to submit my packet. I knew as an E8 I would go the route of Ops NCO to 1SG and while noble endeavors, there were NCOs who wanted this and I didn't want to stand in their way. That was 1987. I had 14 years in at that time and I understand that now the WO field wants younger folks with not much time invested in the NCO Corps. To me, the WO is the SME in his field and you don't get there without significant time invested in the MOS and the NCO Corps. That said, the short answer is that it was certainly the way to go for me. If you had a goal of retiring as a CSM, do you want to change that? Short term I initially lost money going to WO1 but I made it up. Biggest benefit I could do things in my Career Field that kept me working and learning the skill set and still manage troops. I did not have to go the NCO Admin route. That was the biggest benefit to me. Good Luck with your decision. Response by CW2 Donald Loughrey made Feb 23 at 2016 8:28 AM 2016-02-23T08:28:21-05:00 2016-02-23T08:28:21-05:00 CW3 Scott Webster 1323413 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>As others have recommended, this is a personal and family decision that should be in line with what and how you want to further contribute to the service. Once you make the decision, fully commit to your change of path. The Warrant Officer cohort, because of our lower numbers, tends to be very 'tightly knit'; my MOS has less than 100 across all compos, with extreme shortages in the Guard and Reserves. Regardless of your choice, your ability to network across career fields and influence positive change will be your legacy when the time comes to leave. Response by CW3 Scott Webster made Feb 23 at 2016 8:28 AM 2016-02-23T08:28:53-05:00 2016-02-23T08:28:53-05:00 CW4 Private RallyPoint Member 1323700 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>You say you want to take care of troops, Well there is not one better way to ensure troops are being cared for than becoming a Warrant Officer. You not only get to mentor NCO's but also Regular Officers. In many cases you will end up filling platoon leader positions or command positions. What better way is there to have input on the training and care of soldiers? Response by CW4 Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 23 at 2016 9:41 AM 2016-02-23T09:41:32-05:00 2016-02-23T09:41:32-05:00 CW4 Barry Durant 1323709 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>If you love being an NCO, you will love being a Warrant Officer. What track? What MOS are you in now? Is your MOS a feeder into the Warrant Officer field you desire? These are a few factors to consider. Becoming a WO was the absolute best decision for me. Do you have a WO in your organization? Speak with him/her. Do you like the job they do? Is it something you desire? You have to want it. There were people who showed up at the WOCC and signed out the next day. They did not want it after all. Response by CW4 Barry Durant made Feb 23 at 2016 9:43 AM 2016-02-23T09:43:37-05:00 2016-02-23T09:43:37-05:00 CW3 Private RallyPoint Member 1323851 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>The Warrant Officer is a very unique position in the United States Army, as a Warrant Officer you will find that you are often looked to for your knowledge of your field not only my your subordinates but also by your superiors. Often known as the quiet professionals the Warrant Officer is one who knows his field inside and out. and often interacts with their subordinates to not solve the problems for them but to teach them how to solve the problem by providing them with proper guidance and instruction, but will also interact quite often with their superiors often in the same way. Presently the Army is beginning to place Warrant officers in to staff positions, because often times they may have much more knowledge of their field than say a Captain or a Major. This can take the Warrant Officer out of their sometimes comfortable realm they have established, causing them to have to broaden their view of things increasing their necessity to the Army. Being a Warrant Officer is Never an Easy task, but is a new challenge to be approached daily, which brings a great sense of accomplishment. Becoming a Warrant Officer is not for someone looking for an easy ride but for someone looking for a new challenge each day in their career. In my opinion though yes Warrant Officer is the way to go , if your are up for the challenge. Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 23 at 2016 10:13 AM 2016-02-23T10:13:37-05:00 2016-02-23T10:13:37-05:00 CW3 Michael Haugen 1324125 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>My opinion of this is a little different than some. Becoming a WO should be a decision based on being a WO; meaning you need to understand the duties and responsibilities of a WO before deciding to go this route as it is neither quick or I am told reversible. Being a WO has its rewards, however being an NCO has it's completely different rewards. If you like being in charge and leading troops; remain a NCO. Not that WOs cannot or never do that, they do in many circumstances, however this is not their primary function. I was a SF WO which is considerably different than any of the others in many respects, but at the end of the day you need to understand both positions and decide what better suits your personality and goals. I have zero regrets becoming a WO, I loved it and spent a lot of my time as a Team Commander, Operations Officer, etc. That said, I saw many become WOs for all the wrong reasons; higher pay, "respect", etc. You need to become a WO because you completely and totally want to do that job; which is to support the Officers and NCO's in accomplishing their jobs. Response by CW3 Michael Haugen made Feb 23 at 2016 11:21 AM 2016-02-23T11:21:13-05:00 2016-02-23T11:21:13-05:00 CW5 Private RallyPoint Member 1324242 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>GO WO!! Response by CW5 Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 23 at 2016 11:43 AM 2016-02-23T11:43:31-05:00 2016-02-23T11:43:31-05:00 WO1 Antonio Borges 1324285 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Warrant Officer is a specialized group. I was a bandmaster, played my instrument and enjoyed officer privileges. You move up in pay grade as high as CWO5. Go for it! A very respected position. Response by WO1 Antonio Borges made Feb 23 at 2016 11:52 AM 2016-02-23T11:52:42-05:00 2016-02-23T11:52:42-05:00 CW5 Randall Hirsch 1324723 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Do a pro and con list on whether to stay enlisted or whether to go warrant officer. I did that when I turned down CSM for an Army Guard support battalion in Alaska. I knew I was going to be in quite a while and it made sense for me to go warrant. You can still mentor enlisted Soldiers as a warrant officer. When I made the choice W4 was as high as you could go then but W5 came along and I was able to retire as a W5. Retirement life is really good now! Good luck! Response by CW5 Randall Hirsch made Feb 23 at 2016 1:28 PM 2016-02-23T13:28:08-05:00 2016-02-23T13:28:08-05:00 CW2 Private RallyPoint Member 1324939 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>You have to ask yourself this Question: Am I serving my country to my full potential with in the scope of myself and my family. Obviously you must be it information expert in your field. Learning a broad spectrum of doctrine will serve you well. The most effective warrants have a vast network of people at their disposal together get you on track give me the answer or provide a service or a solution to a problem that leads into the next needed asset problem solving I'm a marine engineer and above everything else that's what I am. But I always say and not to cover my ass or look good..I don't need you be a genius I just need to know one. My social skills for suppose might photographic memory which I do not have but I know individuals that do. I've seen some amazing human beings and it comes to warrant officers not one leads the same exact way. Some are more effective then other.. Some may think otherwise I myself am an over achiever. One of the biggest things you can do it's obviously what you've learned in WLC the silent leader don't expect reward or pleasure but always do the right thing there are different ways to get the respect of your Menne it won't be the same way when your Warren as you are a sergeant I usually get my men and women to do what I need them to do but given them the respect most like to be called by there first name. You lead from the front you show them you can do it right in front of them anything they have to do you have to at least done in front of them once that's my opinion I was had the respect of my men and women when I gave them a task and was completed there will come back and ask for more. When I saw they were thinking coming to me with problem with one hand a solution in the other not free thinking but using their brain and accomplishing what needed to be done without supervision I would give them time off they cleared the slate it's their time and then you can utilize some of their time to improve on there Army skills but that's up to them giving them a sense of ownership. Every task no matter how small must be considered vital to the success of the mission.. Your guys do good you do good and vice versa. I believe that if you're under 13 years and a Sargent First class you can still become a Warrant. And you will have safe pay until your Warrant pay exceeds SFC pay. Understand who this man is. The toughest war to fight is the enemy from within... Hugh Clowers Thompson, Jr Response by CW2 Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 23 at 2016 2:12 PM 2016-02-23T14:12:31-05:00 2016-02-23T14:12:31-05:00 CW3 Neal Long 1324965 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Best move I ever made. <br />CWO Neal Long Response by CW3 Neal Long made Feb 23 at 2016 2:17 PM 2016-02-23T14:17:27-05:00 2016-02-23T14:17:27-05:00 CW3 Frank Murphy 1325219 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I finished my third deployment in 2006 and as a SSG with 10 years in service. I went WO and I think it was the best decision I made in my military career. As a WO, you will be charged with thinking independently and advising your command on the technical aspects of your job. Once you earn his (or her) trust, you will be sought after for the no BS BLUF of what they need to know. At times, you might be that link between the Sr. NCO ranks and the O- Ranks, especially with the technical training and mentorship. At times I miss the camaraderie of the NCO Corps's...One of the hardest struggles was to remember that I am no longer an NCO and give them room to learn (sometimes that means letting something go a way it shouldn't). As others have mentioned, the pay is better, but along with pay comes increased responsibility....Its also nice to not deal with some of the silly and often time-consuming aspects of being an NCO. I no longer work for the sake of working.....I have also noticed that there are more professional development opportunities available. It behooves your commander to allow you to refine your skill. Response by CW3 Frank Murphy made Feb 23 at 2016 3:28 PM 2016-02-23T15:28:18-05:00 2016-02-23T15:28:18-05:00 CW3 Guy Snodgrass 1325325 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I am glad I went Warrant. I loved being an NCO and was E-7 when I was selected for Warrant. For me it was a difficult decision, but the point that was the deciding factor was the ability to continue to do what I truly loved...analysis. As an NCO, especially at the senior level, the opportunity to really do your MOS has to be balanced with other duties. For me it was the right choice. Response by CW3 Guy Snodgrass made Feb 23 at 2016 3:54 PM 2016-02-23T15:54:53-05:00 2016-02-23T15:54:53-05:00 CW4 Paul Zeisman 1325356 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>You should definitely consider Warrant Officer. I spent 32 years in the Army and 20 years as a Warrant Officer. It was definitely the right move. You will still be able to take care of the troops along with young commissioned officers. Once you become a seasoned Warrant you will be taken care of the everyone. You first much give it your all and dedicate your life to your family and service.<br />In the long term, the retirement will be excellent. Good luck and get that packet in.<br />CW4 (R) Paul Zeisman Response by CW4 Paul Zeisman made Feb 23 at 2016 4:07 PM 2016-02-23T16:07:37-05:00 2016-02-23T16:07:37-05:00 CW4 Angel C. 1325419 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Yes WO is the way to go! Pros: increased responsibility, authority, respect, brotherhood, etc... Cons: less authority over troops overall, no clothing allowance, less BAS, when first transitioning having to prove yourself more than as a SR NCO, not much more. Long term base pay and retirement pay higher than NCO. If you're not an expert in your field when you first transition you will be much faster than any NCO. Why? WOs spend the great majority of their time doing their MOS part of their jobs. Lastly, PLEASE do not buy into this notion that WOs don't do much or can do whatever they want. Do become a WO because you wanna make a significant contribution to the Army and WO Cohort not EVER to do less or evade responsibility. Good luck! Response by CW4 Angel C. made Feb 23 at 2016 4:22 PM 2016-02-23T16:22:24-05:00 2016-02-23T16:22:24-05:00 CW3 Luther Deese 1325743 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>W Response by CW3 Luther Deese made Feb 23 at 2016 6:07 PM 2016-02-23T18:07:04-05:00 2016-02-23T18:07:04-05:00 CW3 Luther Deese 1325846 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Warrants are the most technically qualified soldiers in their MOS sets. They are the best mentors and instructors. Moreover, they are the most outstanding performers when the chips are down. If you have what it takes, go for it! Response by CW3 Luther Deese made Feb 23 at 2016 6:31 PM 2016-02-23T18:31:41-05:00 2016-02-23T18:31:41-05:00 WO1 Private RallyPoint Member 1325899 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I don't think the "rank" has nearly as much importance when making this decision as where your heart is at. Do you love your job and excel where you are to the point where risking that environment isn't worth it? If you love working with Soldiers, it will definitely be a change, at least in the types of relationships you will have. Not direct supervision anymore so much as guidance/mentorship. I think you didn't provide enough info, what is it that makes you want to apply? Response by WO1 Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 23 at 2016 6:46 PM 2016-02-23T18:46:45-05:00 2016-02-23T18:46:45-05:00 CW3 Private RallyPoint Member 1326031 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Ok who better to tell you than someone who has been an NCO and now a Warrant, YES it's the way to go, also the myth about you don't get to work with Soldiers anymore is a lie. You interact with Soldiers more and you influence them more as a Warrant than you can as an NCO. The Pros of being a Warrant everybody turns to you for your recommendation in your field, there are many more pros and if you want to know about them talk to any Warrant Officer. The only Con I can think about is your name will not appear under the CDR or 1SG on the company area. But SSG GO Warrant you will not regret it.. Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 23 at 2016 7:26 PM 2016-02-23T19:26:25-05:00 2016-02-23T19:26:25-05:00 CW2 Max Dolan 1326226 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I believe that going WO is the way to go. I did it when I was a senior SSG and never regretted it. I had an MOS where I was not really a "troop NCO" in the first place, but an operations guy. I only got up to CW2 before retirement, due to a "RIF" (Reduction in Force). In my case, I was a reserve CW2, so when I "reverted" to NCO status, and was instantly promoted to SFC. I didn't want to re-up to take Master Sergeant, so served my last two years as a "real NCO" at Fort Bragg. So I retired as a CW2 and have never regretted it...except for the part about wanting to go back in about 18 months later! So DO IT! Response by CW2 Max Dolan made Feb 23 at 2016 8:45 PM 2016-02-23T20:45:54-05:00 2016-02-23T20:45:54-05:00 CW2 Private RallyPoint Member 1326273 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>If you are Active duty then Being a Warrant Officer is the first class choice. If you are a National Guard member then talk to your state to see if you will have jobs available after becoming a Warrant Officer. Being a National Guard member you will have more chances to get a full time job as a SGT than a Warrant Officer. Only benefit you have as a National Guard Warrant Officer is that you don't retire for 30 to 35 years or more. Response by CW2 Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 23 at 2016 9:05 PM 2016-02-23T21:05:19-05:00 2016-02-23T21:05:19-05:00 CW3 Tommy McFarland 1326555 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Like all the other warrants here consider it the best decision I ever made. There is a camaraderie among warrants that can&#39;t be found anywhere else among so many no matter where I was assigned to someone was nearby I could go to seek advice guidance or just sound off to. I provided the same service to them as well. As others have stated you don&#39;t have to know everything but you do need to know you to go ask or be willing to put the time in to learn everything you need to know. While rewarding it also is one of the hardest jobs. The learning never stops most warrants now have at least a Bachelor&#39;s degree my guess is the esteemed CW5s probably have or are working on masters or doctoral degrees. That is just the formal education, doesn&#39;t cover all the changing systems or procedural changes. As far as taking care of soldiers it just gets bigger from plt or squad size to company or Bjorn size. You are responsible for them completing their job or mission. If you decide to go do remember to pack your sense of humor and teamwork for WOCES. Response by CW3 Tommy McFarland made Feb 23 at 2016 10:41 PM 2016-02-23T22:41:23-05:00 2016-02-23T22:41:23-05:00 CW4 Private RallyPoint Member 1326833 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>You have to ask yourself what your true intentions are? Do you want to enter a world where you are truly expected to be a technical subject matter expert well versed in regulations and facts coupled with the ability to provide sound advice and honest assessments to various commanders at all levels. Are you prepared to take on various jobs and duties as Warrant Officer that can challenge your ability to be adaptive and flexible. Warrant Officers are expected to be tactical leaders too. Warrant Officers often perform duties that O-grade officers perform such as Platoon Leader, Company Commander or be a primary staff OIC. You have to be willing to teach, train, coach and mentor young soldiers, NCO&#39;s and Officers of all ranks. Since you are a NCO now, that aspect shouldn&#39;t be new to you. What do you want? Don&#39;t become a Warrant Officer just for the money or for a better retirement, become a Warrant Officer to value added and to make a difference. We are always looking for high speed NCO&#39;s to continue their successful career as a highly motivated and dedicated Warrant Officer. Response by CW4 Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 24 at 2016 1:37 AM 2016-02-24T01:37:58-05:00 2016-02-24T01:37:58-05:00 CW3 Vernon Messer 1327056 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>It's not just a pay raise. It's more responsibility - meaning higher expectations of you by the command level. You will be considered a tactical and technical professional. BTW, I see you have 16 years AFS, and only an E6. Why is that? Response by CW3 Vernon Messer made Feb 24 at 2016 6:57 AM 2016-02-24T06:57:11-05:00 2016-02-24T06:57:11-05:00 CW4 Peter McHugh 1327101 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I retired as CW4 before Army implemented CW5....my Warrant was in Aviation, so you might say, even though I had prior service (Infantry), I was NOT the traditional Warrant groomed from enlisted ranks after reaching E-6 or higher.....so my insights to your question may not be consistent with Warrants who had your level of experience.<br /><br />From my vantage point there are NO &quot;cons&quot; to choosing a Warrant, and lots of &quot;pros&quot;...including opportunities for greater responsibility, additional training, and increased interaction, not only with enlisted ranks but with commissioned folks as well....the Warrant Corps has its own esprit, and respect induced by the narrow expertise of the MOS, coupled with same enthusiasm you express for working with and caring for the &quot;troops&quot;!!!!! The difference is partly that as Warrant you will have new and more powerful networks and tools to support and achieve them, and the mission.<br /><br />Opportunities as a Warrant are broader than those as NCO, even at senior levels....my last duty assignment was on staff of DA DCSOPSAvn in an O5 billet....CW5s today are routinely assigned at Brigade and higher staff levels, and have access to senior leaders, often as trusted advisors.<br /><br />Finally, Warrants are privileged to have opportunity for longer careers than many other soldiers...often to 30 years or longer.<br /><br />Although Warrants are now assigned &quot;Branch Specific&quot; we honor the &quot;squashed bug&quot; that was once our Branch insignia (branch immaterial) because our contributions and fraternity cross most organizational and job description lines.<br /><br />Good luck to you in your continued quest for excellence and service to the Nation!<br /><br />Peter McHugh, CW4, USA (Ret) Response by CW4 Peter McHugh made Feb 24 at 2016 7:39 AM 2016-02-24T07:39:22-05:00 2016-02-24T07:39:22-05:00 SSG Leslie Hobgood 1341315 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Good luck...but make sure you have a recuiter that will do their job. I ran into too many obstacles and eventually left the reserves. I hope your path doesn't enounter any of the pitfalls that I experienced. Response by SSG Leslie Hobgood made Feb 29 at 2016 5:01 PM 2016-02-29T17:01:42-05:00 2016-02-29T17:01:42-05:00 CW4 Robert Goldsmith 1342327 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Becoming a Warrant Officer was the best career decision I made. I am so thankful to Gunner Alderede, my Aviation Maintenance Tech when I was a young Marine in 1988 for inspiring me by his actions. When I enlisted in the Army in 1996, it was my goal from Day One to become a Warrant Officer. I was a SSG when I made the career move a few months before 9/11. As a 913A, Armament Maintenance Tech, it was absolutely the right move at the right time. I saw too many good NCOs getting snatched up and having their careers dictated by the CSM and I didn't want to go that route. I loved teaching and training Soldiers, as well as having my boots on the ground with them. I worked in maintenance and logistics management for my entire career and loved it. As a retiree, it is very satisfying when Warrant Officers who worked for me as enlisted Soldiers reach out to me just to say hello, thanks or ask for advice. Response by CW4 Robert Goldsmith made Feb 29 at 2016 10:32 PM 2016-02-29T22:32:01-05:00 2016-02-29T22:32:01-05:00 1LT Michael Beggs 1356147 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I was selected for both a direct commission and as a Warrant. I chose to become a commissioned officer rather than a Warrant. I wish I had chosen otherwise. Response by 1LT Michael Beggs made Mar 5 at 2016 2:51 AM 2016-03-05T02:51:36-05:00 2016-03-05T02:51:36-05:00 SSG Carlos Madden 1386797 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Hi SGT, <br />I hope people will provide you with some good information. In the meantime, you may find this discussion useful. <br /><a target="_blank" href="https://www.rallypoint.com/topics/warrant-officers/answers/pros-and-cons-of-switching-from-enlisted-to-warrant-in-the-guard-what-are-the-duties-of-warrant-officers-compared-to-regular-officers">https://www.rallypoint.com/topics/warrant-officers/answers/pros-and-cons-of-switching-from-enlisted-to-warrant-in-the-guard-what-are-the-duties-of-warrant-officers-compared-to-regular-officers</a> <div class="pta-link-card answers-template-image type-default"> <div class="pta-link-card-picture"> <img src="https://d26horl2n8pviu.cloudfront.net/link_data_pictures/images/000/049/845/qrc/fb_share_logo.png?1458253393"> </div> <div class="pta-link-card-content"> <p class="pta-link-card-title"> <a target="blank" href="https://www.rallypoint.com/topics/warrant-officers/answers/pros-and-cons-of-switching-from-enlisted-to-warrant-in-the-guard-what-are-the-duties-of-warrant-officers-compared-to-regular-officers">Pros and cons of switching from enlisted to warrant in the guard? What are the duties of warrant...</a> </p> <p class="pta-link-card-description"></p> </div> <div class="clearfix"></div> </div> Response by SSG Carlos Madden made Mar 17 at 2016 6:23 PM 2016-03-17T18:23:13-04:00 2016-03-17T18:23:13-04:00 SSG Leo Bell 1386802 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I think it would be a great idea to go to warrant school. You would have the best of both sides as a warrant I would think. You would know what to expect from your enlisted and NCO's because you have been one. Then you would be in the officers world sort of. You would be under a LT Ubut above an NCO. It would be a good career move for you if your allow to do it. Good luck on this. Response by SSG Leo Bell made Mar 17 at 2016 6:24 PM 2016-03-17T18:24:51-04:00 2016-03-17T18:24:51-04:00 CW2 Fred Baker 1387398 <div class="images-v2-count-1"><div class="content-picture image-v2-number-1" id="image-83278"> <div class="social_icons social-buttons-on-image"> <a href='https://www.facebook.com/sharer/sharer.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallypoint.com%2Fanswers%2Fis-warrant-officer-the-way-to-go%3Futm_source%3DFacebook%26utm_medium%3Dorganic%26utm_campaign%3DShare%20to%20facebook' target="_blank" class='social-share-button facebook-share-button'><i class="fa fa-facebook-f"></i></a> <a href="https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?text=Is+Warrant+officer+the+way+to+go%3F&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallypoint.com%2Fanswers%2Fis-warrant-officer-the-way-to-go&amp;via=RallyPoint" target="_blank" class="social-share-button twitter-custom-share-button"><i class="fa fa-twitter"></i></a> <a href="mailto:?subject=Check this out on RallyPoint!&body=Hi, I thought you would find this interesting:%0D%0AIs Warrant officer the way to go?%0D%0A %0D%0AHere is the link: https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/is-warrant-officer-the-way-to-go" target="_blank" class="social-share-button email-share-button"><i class="fa fa-envelope"></i></a> </div> <a class="fancybox" rel="b4eaf3879093c17a6fc77c74a8671de4" href="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/083/278/for_gallery_v2/596642fb.jpg"><img src="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/083/278/large_v3/596642fb.jpg" alt="596642fb" /></a></div></div>I know you are probably looking for a career move, but I have something else in mind. At the reception station at Ft. Jackson, I scored pretty high on the GT score. I originally thought that it might be a good idea to go to OCS and a 110 would qualify. Warrant Officers had to have at least 115. My dad was a WW II vet and totally admired Warrants. Anyway, twenty four of us were marched to a building where a test (fast test) would be administered to see if we had the potential to be helicopter pilots. Twenty said no way and returned to the barracks. The remaining four of us passed and were told that after flight school we would probably be sent to fly in Vietnam. Suddenly there were only two of us. The other fellow's name was Nelson and he asked if his religion would be a problem. Turned it was and he was a CO and therefore couldn't continue. This became the first of many lessons that I learned about Army programs. If they want to try something different, the will do everything to prove it a success. After basic at Ft. Gordon and medical training at Ft Sam Houston I received orders to primary flight school at Ft Wolters. I almost busted out when it took right up to the last hour to finally hover and get my solo flight. The last eight weeks were shortened to six to get the pilots through the training sooner. I got bronchitis and spent two weeks in a hospital. I graduated because they pushed me through - another Army program that was going to succeed. I went to advanced training at Ft. Rucker where I had trouble with instrument training and should have been put back a class or busted out of the program, but low and behold I passed on the third standardization ride. Toward the end, I failed the airframe and power plant test and passed the retest. In other words, I was not the best student to pass through flight school, but pass I did and got my Warrant and my wings. My dad and grandmother came to my graduation and I was proud. Even more so because you had to be smarter to go to Warrant training than to OCS. One other minor tidbit - The Army had to make several mistakes for it to happen, but I was the only person to go through flight training during the entire Vietnam war who did not sign any paperwork volunteering for flight training. They found out a few weeks before graduation and I was smart enough to know why they got so hyper, especially when I refused to sign. When my bar was pinned on, I swear I heard that Major give a huge sigh. Would I do it all again? In a heartbeat! Response by CW2 Fred Baker made Mar 18 at 2016 1:51 AM 2016-03-18T01:51:37-04:00 2016-03-18T01:51:37-04:00 Capt Daniel Goodman 3150809 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I wasn&#39;t one, ivemkmown and/or !et a few, I&#39;ve seen stuff of late that Army needs them, and is short. That being said, a fried of my wife and myself from our church has a brother who retired as one, in food environ!mental handling, of some type, thats as much as I know about him. The son of the best high school female friend of my mother in law whom I&#39;d met at a 90th birthday party for Mom had been Army enlisted, then went Army warrant helicopter, he then finished his bachelors in aviation at Embry Riddle, and interservice to USCG helicopters, which I&#39;d thought unusual, certainly, Army released him, USCG picked him up and either direct commissioned him, or sent him to USCG OIS, an indoc, not USCG OCS. That being said, it&#39;d clearly help if you could elaborate some more. It&#39;d help to know what field you&#39;d want as warrant, how much undergrad and grad coursework you&#39;ve had, what degree(s), interests hobbies, enough to get an adequate framework as to your overall object, as well as your personality. Also, you could, conceivably, apply for warrant in other svcs, I&#39;d expect USMC might find Army easily interserviceable. Obv, USAF got rid of warrants yrs ago, though I know USN and USCG do have them. Interestingly, USPHS Commissioned Corps, if one reads their law, does allow for warrants, though for whatever reason, they&#39;ve never used them at all, which I always thought was rather a waste of an opportunity, I&#39;d seen literature about starting near rants in USPHS a few yrs ago, though I gather nothing ever happened with it. Let me send this now, then illmtry tomsejd more, meanwhile, do a narrative detailed and lengthy as possible, explaining your circumstances, past types of assignments so far as you&#39;d care to say, how many yrs you have in, your age if you&#39;d want to relate it, etc., like I said, the more you explain, the more can be suggested, OK? Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Dec 6 at 2017 7:26 PM 2017-12-06T19:26:33-05:00 2017-12-06T19:26:33-05:00 Capt Daniel Goodman 3150819 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div><a target="_blank" href="https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2016/03/13/warrants-wanted-army-guard-offers-big-bonuses-to-qualified-troops/">https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2016/03/13/warrants-wanted-army-guard-offers-big-bonuses-to-qualified-troops/</a><br /><br />Here&#39;s an example of a site on Army Natl Guard warrant shortages, there are numerous other such sites I&#39;ve seen. Also, I gather you wouldn&#39;t want commission? I&#39;m not trying to suggest it, please understand, merely wondering, thats all, honest. <div class="pta-link-card answers-template-image type-default"> <div class="pta-link-card-picture"> <img src="https://d26horl2n8pviu.cloudfront.net/link_data_pictures/images/000/238/966/qrc/YNFJGE77ABFJJLHIA7JU4YXOT4.jpg?1512606564"> </div> <div class="pta-link-card-content"> <p class="pta-link-card-title"> <a target="blank" href="https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2016/03/13/warrants-wanted-army-guard-offers-big-bonuses-to-qualified-troops/">Warrants wanted: Army Guard offers big bonuses to qualified troops</a> </p> <p class="pta-link-card-description">The Army National Guard is offering up to $20K to qualified candidates as it struggles to fill its warrant ranks.</p> </div> <div class="clearfix"></div> </div> Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Dec 6 at 2017 7:31 PM 2017-12-06T19:31:59-05:00 2017-12-06T19:31:59-05:00 CW2 Michael Artley 3597481 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Even though I left the military for another pursuit I never regretted the division. I made this change early enough that had I retired I would have been a 4 or 5. Still the best world Response by CW2 Michael Artley made May 3 at 2018 2:38 PM 2018-05-03T14:38:53-04:00 2018-05-03T14:38:53-04:00 CW3 Kevin Storm 3598181 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I am going to be honest, based on the information you have up here. I couldn&#39;t till you diddly right now. Are you in an career field that feeds into being a WO? If not end of discussion, unless you plan on flying. So I will say for the sake of argument you do have a feeder MOS. You either want to be a WO and be leader at a different level or you like being at the Platoon level for a few more years. Once you make you are no longer a Platoon level leader, you will bask in paperwork, mind numbing meeting (most WO&#39;s sit in our fair share of mind numbing meetings as well). Or if it is going to take you a while to meet the qualifications to be a WO, could you finish a degree and become an O grade? You have to know what you want know , 5 years from now, 10 years from now, and what you are going to do when you retire? Does you spouse want you to go that way? If spouse is not on board you are setting yourself up for headaches no matter what. Response by CW3 Kevin Storm made May 3 at 2018 7:47 PM 2018-05-03T19:47:58-04:00 2018-05-03T19:47:58-04:00 CW5 Private RallyPoint Member 3602800 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I&#39;m sure there are some cons.........on second thought I can&#39;t think of any. Response by CW5 Private RallyPoint Member made May 5 at 2018 3:52 PM 2018-05-05T15:52:29-04:00 2018-05-05T15:52:29-04:00 CWO4 Homer Callicutt 3729509 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I have met very few CWOs who didn&#39;t take care of their people. The other factor is the better retirement. Go for it. Response by CWO4 Homer Callicutt made Jun 21 at 2018 7:02 AM 2018-06-21T07:02:54-04:00 2018-06-21T07:02:54-04:00 SFC Private RallyPoint Member 5901659 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Wouldve dropped a packet myself. I&#39;m just an older guy and dont wish to stay in past 20 years. But always comes down to what YOU want to do. More money is always a plus, but don&#39;t just do it for the money. Gotta want the Warrant for better reasons than just more money. Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made May 17 at 2020 1:23 PM 2020-05-17T13:23:09-04:00 2020-05-17T13:23:09-04:00 SSG Leslie Hobgood 8024660 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Do it. I just wished I had a better WO recruiter at the time I tried... Response by SSG Leslie Hobgood made Dec 12 at 2022 11:46 AM 2022-12-12T11:46:14-05:00 2022-12-12T11:46:14-05:00 2016-02-21T15:18:25-05:00