Posted on Apr 21, 2022
CPT Michael Lawrence Maag
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JAN 6TH PARTICIPANTS... Should military personnel who attended this event and subsequently were arrested also be persecuted via there military units?
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SFC Casey O'Mally
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I am sure they are already being persecuted. The level of false narrative, shaming, and outright hatred towards these folks makes it a guarantee.

But I think you were asking about PROSecution.

If that is the question, then I think it depends on which Jan 6 event you are talking about, and what you mean by "participate."

So.... For folks who showed up to the rally, did not march to the capitol, and went home. No. No prosecution.

For the folks who went to the Capitol, shouted about how the election was stolen, but did not break down barriers, and did not enter. Again, no prosecution.

For those who chanted "Hang Mike Pence," attacked LEOs, or actively participated in breach. Yes, prosecution.

For those who destroyed or stole property within the Capitol. Yes, prosecution.

For those who made threats against Pence, Congress Critters, and/or LEOs. Yes, prosecution.

For those who were INVITED IN, left when asked, did not destroy or steal property, and cooperated with LEOs, no prosecution. Even if they posed for photos.

And, of course, the caveat for all of these is the government being able to prove that the individual did what they are accused of doing. Simply being arrested for doing something is not proof that you did it.
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SSG Bill McCoy
SSG Bill McCoy
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A1C Medrick "Rick" DeVaney - You're confusing political grandstanding with factual matters. ALL the testimony at the so-called "hearings," was cherry picked and any evidence contrary to the desired narrative against Trump, was completely disallowed. So much for any semblance of due process.
As for: "Members of the House committee investigating the Capitol riot said Sunday they have uncovered enough evidence for the Justice Department to consider an unprecedented criminal indictment against former President Donald Trump for seeking to overturn the results of the 2020 election." That entire narrative has NOTHING to do with the 2020 election, and EVERYTHING to do with 2024.
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A1C Medrick "Rick" DeVaney
A1C Medrick "Rick" DeVaney
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SSG Bill McCoy - ........
BILLY.? I'll Bet You're Right...
You Must Be, You're So Open Minded;,.
I Almost Mistook You For Being Intelligent.
It Was A Close Call, But
"YOU'RE OUT-A THERE"..
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SFC Casey O'Mally
SFC Casey O'Mally
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A1C Medrick "Rick" DeVaney down voted for hypocrisy and belittling.
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A1C Medrick "Rick" DeVaney
A1C Medrick "Rick" DeVaney
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SFC Casey O'Mally - ...
Well, If You Be little, You Be Okay With Me.
Seriously BFD. Is It Important?
Not Really.
But Thanks For Letting Me Know.
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As a criminal justice major who has followed this case extensively, federal prosecutors are only able to charge and try individuals they can directly link to a crime that occurred on the day. Service members can attend any protest they want as long as to not be representing the DOD in any capacity I.e in uniform. So the answer is no, they can not try service members for attending UNLESS the individuals can be linked directly to a crime that occurred q
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SFC Corey Pitt
SFC Corey Pitt
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SSG Bill McCoy - What's sad is that you somehow made it to the rank of E-6/SSG and apparently don't know anything about the regulations. Yes, I absolutely downvoted your comment because it was nothing more than some partisan political crap that doesn't even fall in line with any military standard or the law. First of all, you stated: "just how does anyone "overthrow" a government without weapons or overt and heinous violence? The event hardly reached the level of a riot which is NOT to say there weren't some malicious acts and property damage, but how many of those supposedly trying to overthrow the government were armed?"

Let me just educate you, here, sport. You're not a lawyer so please stop trying to make legal arguments about the culpability of these individuals. The fact is there are SEVERAL individuals that the DoJ charged with sedition, look it up! Secondly, there are SEVERAL military members who were arrested for engaging in said insurrection, some have either been kicked out or in the process of being kicked out. I intentionally used the word "insurrection" as it actually fits based on Black's Law Dictionary, which states: "Insurrection is distinguished from rout, riot, and offense connected with mob violence by the fact that in insurrection there is an organized and armed uprising against authority or operations of government, while crimes growing out of mob violence, however serious they may be and however numerous the participants, are simply unlawful acts in disturbance of the peace which do not threaten the stability of the government or the existence of political society."

Let's go over the facts here, this was organized, the intent was the stop the certification of the electoral votes, which classifies as operations of government, they stormed the Capitol Building in spite of the Capitol Police commands, who serves as the authority, multiple firearms were confiscated, in addition to the multiple reports captured on radio communications between the Capitol Police and Secret Service. It seems like 4 out of 4 categories suggest the contrary to your "view." Furthermore, you are a former military member who took the oath that you mentioned in your post and seemingly misremembers what it said. How can you, with a conscious, actually type these words defending such an anti-patriotic act as this for people who deliberately stormed the U.S. Capitol Building just to stop the certification of electoral votes for the Presidential election? You do realize he is the Commander-in-Chief, right? In case you forgot, he's the very top person in the chain-of-command. This is the person you vowed to follow his orders when you served, yet you're here standing up for people who attempted to keep him away from an office majority of the country elected him to serve?

It seems you may have forgotten many of the things the military taught you during your time serving. I suggest you revisit the Army Command Policy and read the section on Soldier Conduct. Maybe it will refresh your memory and help you understand just how serious this issue truly is versus what some media outlets and unscrupulous politicians are saying. As for your other comment regarding inability to accept different views, I'm studying law. I don't care about opposing views so long as they're based on fact. The view you're holding is based on opinions with no merit. Nothing you have said is supported by law or military regulations. Maybe if you actual read about the things you keep quoting, you'd have a better idea of the gravity of this situation. However, this is a free country and you are free to hold whatever view you please, no matter how wrong or misguided it may be. However, I possess those same freedoms to hold my own beliefs. The only difference is, I didn't attack you for you beliefs until you submitted your little ad hominem comments directed towards me.
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SSG Bill McCoy
SSG Bill McCoy
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SFC Corey Pitt - you said: "What's sad is that you somehow made it to the rank of E-6/SSG and apparently don't know anything about the regulations."
Then, "The only difference is, I didn't attack you for you beliefs until you submitted your little ad hominem comments directed towards me."
So, an opinion, contrary to yours, is an attack? Please! All I said was that, " it always amazes me when people who see it the way your do, can't seem to accept any opposing view." That Mr. Pitt is fact as manifested by your response to my original comment, and your most recent attempt to demean. That's FURTHER illustrated by your statement, "Let me just educate you, here, sport." Sport?
No, I am not a lawyer; but to my knowledge, neither are you. You also noted, "... they stormed the Capitol Building in spite of the Capitol Police commands, who serves as the authority [...]." Indeed ... but what of the Capitol Police who literally invited them in and even held doors open for them as they (also) literally, waved them in?
I did not "defend," them ... I simply stated their conduct amounted to a demonstration; a riot if you choose; but was far from an insurrection. Firearms were not found on anyone INSIDE the Capitol Building from what I've read ... between four and six firearms were confiscated from people not AT the Capitol Bulding, let alone inside.
As an aside, were not Federal Buildings attacked and damaged, and Federal Law Enforcement Officers attacked and injured in Seattle, and Portland? Yet those on the left term those events not even as riots, but as ... [insert laughter], "peaceful demonstrations!" But, since they were not Trump supporters, or at least conservatives, their overt criminal conduct was and is excused.
You went ono, "As for your other comment regarding inability to accept different views, I'm studying law." So what? I dare say that you have no law enforcement experience, and I'm certain I've had as much formal education in law as you (PA Act 120) and college courses, FBI courses, Metropolitan D.C. Police courses, VA State and Fairfax County PD courses as well as Military Police courses. In fact, I was the NCOIC of all Patrol & Desk Operations. I've filed criminal charges in the military, in Federal Courts and in PA Commonwealth Court. You?
You: " I didn't attack you for you beliefs until you submitted your little ad hominem comments directed towards me.." LOL ... Sarge, I'm most thankful to have never served with a Sr. NCO whose views were so internalized to the extent that no other person's opinion were so easily, and so negatively discarded. Oh, I did say you were being obtuse.
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SFC Corey Pitt
SFC Corey Pitt
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As I suspected, take the coward's road and block me because you've realized just how bad your argument is and that you have typed this entire post just to end it with a line that completely discredits your entire high moral road. Yes, I absolutely said I never attacked your views until you submitted ad hominem attacks. Interesting is that you ended your little rant with an admission as you recollected the moment you referred to me as "obtuse." I feel sorry for any soldier who served under you. You're a disgrace to the military and don't deserve to call yourself a veteran.
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SSG Bill McCoy
SSG Bill McCoy
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I stand by my argumeent SFC Pitt; I simply choose not to tolerate your regressive personality, and holier-than-thou attitude. I can't even imagine serving with a Sr. Non-Com of your ilk with how you denigrate a fellow Veteran/service member, so of course I've blocked you.
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SFC(P) Stay At Home Dad
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I'm gonna leave that to the courts and lawyers. But, since it's already happening....
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MSgt Earl King
MSgt Earl King
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Go to the shows!
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SSG Bill McCoy
SSG Bill McCoy
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Six handguns, among thousands of protesors, hardly seems to rise to the level of trying to overthrow any government; esepcially since they assaulted no one with them. Carrying in D.C., without a permit - RARELY issued to any common citizen - is asking for trouble. Entering ANY gov't building with one, permit or not, is not allowed in most jurisdictions and equally stupid to violate.
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SSG Bill McCoy
SSG Bill McCoy
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MAJ Steve Warnerski - a "CTRL-F" search revealed six firearm charges when searching for "firearm." A "weapon" search revealed 201, but how is mere possession of a flagpole classed as a weapon unless used as a club?
I agree with you ... and four, or six, handguns among thousands-plus, is nothing that supoorts an insurrection.
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A1C Medrick "Rick" DeVaney
A1C Medrick "Rick" DeVaney
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MSgt Earl King -
.....You Go To Shows?
What Were You Showing?
Some Of That S*it's Illegal, Ya Know.
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