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Practically every week I tell my Soldiers after the Commander's safety brief, that I do not drink and that I am willing to come and pick them up if no one else will. I give them the assurance that as a Leader, I would rather pick them up from wherever, rather than report to the MP station to pick them up for a DUI or other alcohol related offense.
Question: How far (distance or commitment) would you or have gone to keep your Soldiers/Sailors/Marines/Airmen out of jail?
Question: How far (distance or commitment) would you or have gone to keep your Soldiers/Sailors/Marines/Airmen out of jail?
Soldiers
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Alcohol
Posted 10 y ago
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Smartest thing I ever saw was at Fort Drum. The unit CSM had his SDNCO sign for a lockbox with hundreds of dollars in it. It had cash for all the drunks who needed a taxi paid for. The SM signed for the cash, taxi was paid, and the name went on a list that the CSM monitored.
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CSM Guy R. Niles
For the lock box, it brings up questions of controls and audits. I believe that the CSM does care for and about his people. Plan/post states nothing about how the funds drawn are recouped. Hope that this works well for him/her, them and unit.
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The Air Force instituted Airman Against Drunk Driving which is a service that people volunteer/voluntold to be drivers to take people from the bars back to their residence. The only thing I have heard on why some people negate to use the service is that they did not want to leave their car downtown.
Some people said they did not want to contact a superior who offered a ride service like you had mentioned in fear that they would be placed in alcohol treatment. Of course they did go to it anyway when getting a DWI, except they got an Article 15 to go with it.
Some people said they did not want to contact a superior who offered a ride service like you had mentioned in fear that they would be placed in alcohol treatment. Of course they did go to it anyway when getting a DWI, except they got an Article 15 to go with it.
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TSgt Scott Hurley
Lt Col (Join to see) that is correct. A lot of service members do not realize that they will not be punished if they call their commander of 1st Sgt. They are in more trouble if the didn't and got a DWI (DUI). I even told my 1st Sgts that I would be a bucket of goo on their desks since my father would be the first one to get to me. And that is Because he was a New Hampshire State Trooper. He is of course retired, but he would still get to me before the commander of 1st Sgt. So I made it a point not to do something stupid.
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SFC (Join to see), it sounds like you are a very caring NCO and leader. I have given the same offer to Soldiers under me in the past. How far would I go? As far as necessary. It's not just about keeping them out of jail. They could kill someone, or themselves, driving drunk.
An NCO in a unit I was in, back around 1992, was driving drunk, and he killed a mother and father (who were in the front seat). Their two kids lived (they were in the back seat). The NCO lived, uninjured, but his life was ruined. He went away to jail/prison, I don't know the length of his sentence. Doesn't really matter ... he now has to live with that burden of guilt the rest of his life. It has to be hell for him every day.
I think the trust between a leader and his/her subordinates is another critical part of this discussion. If the subordinates don't trust (and believe) you, then they might be reluctant to call you for a ride. After that, there's the chance for what happened to the NCO I knew back in '92.
An NCO in a unit I was in, back around 1992, was driving drunk, and he killed a mother and father (who were in the front seat). Their two kids lived (they were in the back seat). The NCO lived, uninjured, but his life was ruined. He went away to jail/prison, I don't know the length of his sentence. Doesn't really matter ... he now has to live with that burden of guilt the rest of his life. It has to be hell for him every day.
I think the trust between a leader and his/her subordinates is another critical part of this discussion. If the subordinates don't trust (and believe) you, then they might be reluctant to call you for a ride. After that, there's the chance for what happened to the NCO I knew back in '92.
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CW5 Montgomery,
I tell my Soldiers that I will pick them up as much for them as I do my family and everyone else's. I do not want to see one of my (or any for that matter) Soldiers get a DUI but I certainly do not want to see some family destroyed. I do this because nearly every staff duty has a DUI fund and most posts have a program i.e. Fort Riley- Riley Ride Program. The problem is that these programs are hardly used and we still have DUIs. I would rather spend a little bit extra time and get them from wherever, rather than the alternative. Thanks!
I tell my Soldiers that I will pick them up as much for them as I do my family and everyone else's. I do not want to see one of my (or any for that matter) Soldiers get a DUI but I certainly do not want to see some family destroyed. I do this because nearly every staff duty has a DUI fund and most posts have a program i.e. Fort Riley- Riley Ride Program. The problem is that these programs are hardly used and we still have DUIs. I would rather spend a little bit extra time and get them from wherever, rather than the alternative. Thanks!
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