Knowing what you know now, would you encourage your children to serve in today's military?

Capt Ross Nussbaum — Thu, 30 Nov 2017 10:42:49 -0500

The US Military has gone through a whirlwind of changes in the past 15 years. Counter-insurgency warfare/nation-building has taken the place of conventional operation. The "Strategic Lance Corporal" decisions have a ripple effect throughout the entire theatre of battle. DA/DT repeal and transgender policy changes. The overwhelming addition of communications, intelligence, observation and warfighting technology. I've spoken to veterans of previous wars and there has never been a time where the expectation, from day-to-day responsibilities to the impact of a bad decision has been higher. Send me your thoughts.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 30 at 2017 10:46 AM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 30 Nov 2017 10:46:55 -0500

I have a nephew on the way, I don't know if I would encourage it but if he has questions for my brother and I we would answer them and if he shows an interest down the road then we will support him and prepare him.

Response by 1LT Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 30 at 2017 10:51 AM

1LT Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 30 Nov 2017 10:51:31 -0500

Sir, I am expecting my first child on the way. That being said, I have always told myself that if he/she wanted to join then they have my unconditional support. However, I will never encourage, nor make them feel obligated to serve because of the path I have taken in life. I'd be one proud father if he/she joined and served their country well but will not be disappointed or condemn them if they choose not to.

Response by SPC David Willis made Nov 30 at 2017 10:53 AM

SPC David Willis — Thu, 30 Nov 2017 10:53:31 -0500

Well look at it from a larger scale. The only reason there have never been greater expectations is because at this moment in time our military is the most modern it has ever been. Tomorrow it will be even more modern. In 1944 the military was at its most modern, in 1969 the military had higher expectations than it ever had before having to fight a new kind of war. In 20 years our children will be in the most modern military in history and in 50 years our grand children will have that same honor.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 30 at 2017 11:01 AM

SSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 30 Nov 2017 11:01:12 -0500

Generations of my family served honorably. Some were drafted, and some volunteered. That was one of the greatest honors of my life, and I would drive my kids to the recruiter’s office instantly if they chose to join.

Response by CPT Lawrence Cable made Nov 30 at 2017 11:20 AM

CPT Lawrence Cable — Thu, 30 Nov 2017 11:20:46 -0500

I already encouraged one to join. He's E6 in the Navy. Every generation of soldier has new challenges, change is about the only constant in the service.

Response by PO3 Art Womer made Nov 30 at 2017 11:38 AM

PO3 Art Womer — Thu, 30 Nov 2017 11:38:04 -0500

Yes I would. It may be dangerous, but I think they'd get more life experience and better training for the real world.

Response by MSG Dan Castaneda made Nov 30 at 2017 11:56 AM

MSG Dan Castaneda — Thu, 30 Nov 2017 11:56:52 -0500

I would rather my boys go to an unbiased university and then join the work force. I've done enough killing for both of them.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 30 at 2017 12:18 PM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 30 Nov 2017 12:18:32 -0500

Absolutely. I have 2 sons and would love to see them serve. It's easy as we get older to look back and see what all has changed for good and bad. But for our kids, this wasn't change at all. It's just their normal. My step-daughter was born in 2003 and from time to time it becomes blatantly obvious that she never knew what pre-September 11th America was like. Insurgents, terror attacks, wars in Iraq and Afghanistan; hearing about those things are as American to her as apple pie. And I have no doubt that when she's 40 she'll look back on all that she's seen change and think the same things we're thinking now. That cycle will never end.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 30 at 2017 12:36 PM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 30 Nov 2017 12:36:51 -0500

I struggle with this question. My son is 15, and I just retired from the military. There are amazing opportunities with the GI Bill, and other assistance packets out there. Also there are jobs in the military that can get you a really good career once you get out. So these things matter.

At the same time the military has become in jeopardy of cuts, not just to the soldier, but to benefits due to political wrangling. The there is the possibility of continued combat roles over an extremely long period of time. I want the best life for my kid, and that doesn't include PTSD, depression and some of the other common things I see post combat with soldiers.

I will support whatever choice he makes, but I focus on getting him into a good school, and on track with a good career on the outside. If he wants to serve so be it, but I wouldn't drive him down that track.

Response by SSG Warren Swan made Nov 30 at 2017 1:01 PM

SSG Warren Swan — Thu, 30 Nov 2017 13:01:47 -0500

If I had kids, it wouldn't be my initial recommendation to them. I'd push schooling or certification courses if possible. If the desire was strong to enlist, they'd have a choice of Army or crayoneaters. Have to maintain some respect.
I'd break the life down to them knowing they won't understand until it hits them directly, tell them what they need to be ready to do to be better than the next, and let em rip. The military is a hard life, and not everyone really understands, and with todays stressors, it's only amplified. Make sure they have a five and ten year goal plan.
I don't think DADT or transgender rules are as bad as folks make it out to be. They've always been there, now you get to see them in the open. Much better than knowing someone is, but if they come out, you lost a friend, and possibly a solid performer over fear.

Response by SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth made Nov 30 at 2017 1:17 PM

SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth — Thu, 30 Nov 2017 13:17:14 -0500

My son is close to the cut off age, so I'd help my grandson if he wanted to join.

Response by SGT Morrison (Mike) Hogwood made Nov 30 at 2017 1:31 PM

SGT Morrison (Mike) Hogwood — Thu, 30 Nov 2017 13:31:55 -0500

I don't know if i would encourage it,I do have a son has been in seventeen years and proud of his accomplishments ,But due to multiple deployments there has been some change in him other than maturing,i speak with him after deployments,He has done vet well with all this,But did have to ask him one time if he needed professional help to deal what he saw,did etc,I supported his decision in high school when he asked for us to sign a waiver as he was seventeen when he graduated high school and still support his actions now,Now as parent i did have reservations when he did his first deployment and wished i could have gone because a parent it is somewhat heartbreaking to see your oldest deploy,i shed my tears and grew up as i seen my son develop into the very man that he is today and very proud of what he has contributed to this great country.tough question for what being dealt to the military these days.

Response by PFC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 30 at 2017 1:32 PM

PFC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 30 Nov 2017 13:32:02 -0500

No I would neither encourage or dissuade my children ultimately because view it as entirely their choice and it has to be that way should they enlist or commission I would assist them because it would their honest goal for themselves but it would not be my place to interfere with their decision.

Response by CSM Richard StCyr made Nov 30 at 2017 1:35 PM

CSM Richard StCyr — Thu, 30 Nov 2017 13:35:01 -0500

I encouraged them to pick a job they thought they would like and do their best.
My oldest Son was a Soldier and we deployed to OIF in '03 on the same rotation (different units). He had 3 combat tours, 2 in Iraq and 1 in Afghanistan, got out and is a diesel mechanic now thanks to the GI bill.
My oldest Daughter manages an insurance sales office. Youngest Son is working for FEMA and youngest Daughter is a Corrections Officer and in college studying criminal justice and wants to be a Police Sniper.

Response by SFC Christopher Taggart made Nov 30 at 2017 2:03 PM

SFC Christopher Taggart — Thu, 30 Nov 2017 14:03:44 -0500

If they mentioned that they were joining the military, without a doubt I would encourage them.

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Nov 30 at 2017 5:46 PM

Capt Daniel Goodman — Thu, 30 Nov 2017 17:46:00 -0500

Wow...boy, that's a really interesting question...I've really gotta chew on that one for awhile, I really need to put on my thinking cap to answer that one, you know? Lemme give that one some really serious thought for awhile, OK? Thanks...good question, though....

Response by Cpl Justin Goolsby made Nov 30 at 2017 5:53 PM

Cpl Justin Goolsby — Thu, 30 Nov 2017 17:53:35 -0500

Yes, I would. The military helped me get my life together in ways I didn't think possible. Even if it was just for a single tour of duty, I think the military would benefit them in the long run.

Response by SGT Tony Clifford made Nov 30 at 2017 6:11 PM

SGT Tony Clifford — Thu, 30 Nov 2017 18:11:11 -0500

Well, that's an interesting question. I wouldn't push them to anything. If they choose the military, I'll be supportive. If they decide that's not the life for them, I'd completely understand. It's not for everyone. I just hope that they make an informed decision in whatever path in life they choose.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 30 at 2017 7:38 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 30 Nov 2017 19:38:20 -0500

I wouldn't encourage them to join, but I also wouldn't discourage them from doing do. If it's something they are interested in I'll be open and honest about my service of course. I'm at 16 total years of service now and I probably have another 9 or 10 to go. I owe a lot to the Army, but it's not all peaches and cream.

Response by TSgt David L. made Dec 1 at 2017 1:44 AM

TSgt David L. — Fri, 01 Dec 2017 01:44:35 -0500

Yep! I would. They are both in the military now! Proud Papa!

Response by LTJG Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 1 at 2017 9:26 AM

LTJG Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 01 Dec 2017 09:26:52 -0500

I would wholeheartedly encourage any children than I have in the future to join the military. It is a great opportunity to learn and either follow or follow then lead. I wouldnt encourage them to commission right off the bat because being enlisted (even for the short time that I was), I learned a lot about how to follow and therefore become a better leader.

Response by Cpl Bill Johnson made Dec 2 at 2017 8:32 PM

Cpl Bill Johnson — Sat, 02 Dec 2017 20:32:51 -0500

I told both of my daughter's that between both of their grandfathers, grand uncles, a grand aunt, me, my brother, and two of my nephews currently serving... is that I want them to be good citizens. Obey the law, and pay your taxes without cheating. That is enough. We can skip a generation (or two).

Response by Cpl Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 3 at 2017 8:43 AM

Cpl Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 03 Dec 2017 08:43:28 -0500

As stated above I wouldn't drive them down that path at all. A lot of good opportunities to take advantage of when you get out

Response by SPC Nanette Porter made Dec 3 at 2017 12:40 PM

SPC Nanette Porter — Sun, 03 Dec 2017 12:40:33 -0500

My kids know what they are getting them selves into they know that it's not easy for people it's not just a job and it's definitely not a joke. They have a choice and it is there's to make I have 6 kids and I know some will join and some will not I am the only one of my siblings that did and so far my oldest daughter has joined as well. But I have never held anything from them good or bad so I know when they make the choice it is because it is what they want and what they believe in. Not because they have a glorified picture in there haids, or they feel they have no choice. They know they have my support no matter what they choose.

Response by Sgt Joe Tessari made Dec 9 at 2017 3:42 PM

Sgt Joe Tessari — Sat, 09 Dec 2017 15:42:23 -0500

Yes!

Response by Sgt Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 10 at 2017 8:19 PM

Sgt Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 10 Dec 2017 20:19:57 -0500

I am very proud to say, my oldest son is in the Marine Corps, my middle son is in the Army.

Response by Sgt Robert Murphy made Dec 11 at 2017 4:10 PM

Sgt Robert Murphy — Mon, 11 Dec 2017 16:10:17 -0500

Yeah my own children and any other kid that will listen to me I tell them join the service pick a mos and spend fours touring the world and working your butt off but it is A great time

Response by SPC Herb Jorgensen made Dec 23 at 2017 10:28 AM

SPC Herb Jorgensen — Sat, 23 Dec 2017 10:28:59 -0500

It is solely to the discretion of the individual to serve.However under current conditions the military has good and not so good conditions.My major concern would be when they got out and how members are left behind and lost within the lack of support by the VA,and other areas.The cannot in which the 515 discharge is used to disown is a portion of the decision process.As a patient advocate for over 15 years to disabled amputees the result of this is witnessed first hand.It really has left many a very poor influence to enlist and has diminished recruitment capability.

Response by Cpl David Burke made Dec 23 at 2017 10:39 AM

Cpl David Burke — Sat, 23 Dec 2017 10:39:43 -0500

Most definitely I would encourage my children to join.

Response by MGySgt Rick Tyrrell made Dec 26 at 2017 9:55 PM

MGySgt Rick Tyrrell — Tue, 26 Dec 2017 21:55:45 -0500

I feel we live in a society that kids are lazy and have no desire to further develop there minds due to computers and Xbox. Think about the fact a kid does not go and play hide and seek, ride a bike, look at nature. These are simple things! If nothing but a three to four year commitment to growing up and obtaining discipline would make them a useful pawn to society instead of collecting a welfare check!!!

Response by Sgt Jon Mcvay made Dec 28 at 2017 4:09 AM

Sgt Jon Mcvay — Thu, 28 Dec 2017 04:09:28 -0500

I would have to say yes...reasons.... Gives you a sense of pride that nothing can match. Gives you time away from others that would influence you in a direction that they want not what you want in your life. Discipline every branch strives to introduce that you have it so use it. Team work and individualism go hand in hand. Learning is vital to succeed in life be proud of what you have learned and share that knowledge with others.
Often I am asked if I miss the military. I respond every day. Sure there were hard times, but there was good times also.
So go and spread your wings, serve our country, see the world, find yourself, and stay in if you want or get out and become a productive person in this country. For you will see that this country is Great to live in. God Bless the United States of America.

Response by GySgt Dj B made Dec 30 at 2017 4:32 AM

GySgt Dj B — Sat, 30 Dec 2017 04:32:53 -0500

Both my son's already served. Against my advice. So....

Response by LCpl Richard O'Connor made Dec 31 at 2017 7:35 PM

LCpl Richard O'Connor — Sun, 31 Dec 2017 19:35:34 -0500

Yes

Response by GySgt Dj B made Jan 6 at 2018 5:44 PM

GySgt Dj B — Sat, 06 Jan 2018 17:44:35 -0500

Both my son's joined the USMC against my advice. I told them if they joined, look at USAF. Problem was, they saw me, recently retired, still hanging out with my other retired Marines. Helping each other move, loaning....or giving money to each other in a tight spot, drinking, telling war stories, and generally having a good time. And they told me that's why they joined the Corps.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 6 at 2018 5:57 PM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 06 Jan 2018 17:57:45 -0500

I actually talked with my kids the other day about this. In the age of Call of Duty and Modern Warfare and the like, combat and the military is romanticized as being all action and fun. I explained to them that its a job like any other job that has its boring days and fun days, but is a little bit more dangerous. I also explain to them why war is bad and not sexy like the movies and video games. Yes sometimes it is necessary and yes it is ugly and painful and more times than not the people that suffer the most are the non combatants. As long as they understand that and accept it then I'm ok with it.

Response by SGT Mark Halmrast made Jan 6 at 2018 6:44 PM

SGT Mark Halmrast — Sat, 06 Jan 2018 18:44:53 -0500

To my kids:
First, love America.
Second, live for something bigger than yourself.
Third, if they want to join, give them an unblinking view.

And above all, love them abundantly.

Response by Cpl Ron Nicholson made Jan 6 at 2018 7:59 PM

Cpl Ron Nicholson — Sat, 06 Jan 2018 19:59:01 -0500

My oldest son join the Navy. Now my oldest stepdaughter is considering joining the Air Force. Now with that being said yes I do. The military offers a life beyond military life that no civilian can have.

Response by Cpl Jon Armstrong made Jan 9 at 2018 12:58 AM

Cpl Jon Armstrong — Tue, 09 Jan 2018 00:58:21 -0500

Already did, daughter is serving in the USAF

Response by SSgt Jim Gilmore made Jan 9 at 2018 1:56 AM

SSgt Jim Gilmore — Tue, 09 Jan 2018 01:56:53 -0500

ABSOLUTELY! Serving in the military is one of the best ways to prepare for the rest of your life. It instills discipline, the value of hard work being rewarded, teamwork and it teaches you things your parents may have missed.

Response by LCpl Brandon Joseph made Jan 24 at 2018 4:12 PM

LCpl Brandon Joseph — Wed, 24 Jan 2018 16:12:13 -0500

Just one word... Yes.
Sure you'll get bad leaders but you are the change. You don't like your squad leader because his knowledge and leadership skills are lacking. Take the opportunity to better yourself and take his spot. If your squad leader doesn't motivate you to take his position your leader is wrong.

Response by SSgt Harvey "Skip" Porter made Jan 24 at 2018 6:07 PM

SSgt Harvey "Skip" Porter — Wed, 24 Jan 2018 18:07:27 -0500

Capt Ross Nussbaum None of mine followed my footsteps. I didn't try to encourage any of them either they preferred college to my delight and get a regular job as my youngest would say.

Peace!

Response by PO1 Darrell Sanders made Jan 28 at 2018 9:36 PM

PO1 Darrell Sanders — Sun, 28 Jan 2018 21:36:11 -0500

My daughter was a medic in the Army. My son never entered the military. I have a grandson that was a Marine. I never told them yes or no on enlisting. I answered any questions they had. My father was a Marine and I had 2 brothers who were Marines. They had Q/A times, I never ask why they made the decisions they did nor will I. In answer to the question NO, I will not encourage my grandkids or nieces and nephews to serve. It is their choice, I will be proud no matter their decision ( unless the become liberal sycophants ).

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 30 at 2018 6:50 PM

SSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 30 Jan 2018 18:50:17 -0500

Yes, as an option for a young person not ready or willing to go down the college road. My son will be at the MEPS tomorrow joining the active Army. He and I had serious conversations about were he wanted to go after graduation in June and we did college tours and spoke to the AF and Army recruiters. He chose to go Army. He has a life plan, does not want to be buried in college debt, wants solid technical skills and to serve his country. I believe my service affected his decision and I could not be more proud of what he is doing.

Response by LTC Edward Ledford made Feb 10 at 2018 8:09 AM

LTC Edward Ledford — Sat, 10 Feb 2018 08:09:05 -0500

Yes, absolutely. I've already encouraged my son (11) to join the Navy rather than the Army, if he decides to serve, for the opportunity to see the world on a ship. And I've always been very impressed with the Navy officers and enlisted with whom I've worked (not that there weren't many, many great Army people, too).

Response by SP5 Larry Morris made Feb 10 at 2018 2:03 PM

SP5 Larry Morris — Sat, 10 Feb 2018 14:03:28 -0500

I know lets call the new ARMY pussies

Response by Maj Mike Sciales made Feb 12 at 2018 11:31 AM

Maj Mike Sciales — Mon, 12 Feb 2018 11:31:21 -0500

I'd be slow to recommend a military career to my kids. I'd encourage them to serve and gain some real world and global experience and perspective as well as being a part of something bigger than themselves, but I'd tell them to get out after the first tour because the DoD isn't the same place it was in those halcyon days of the Cold War. I'd also tell them to go to university, preferably one outside of the USA where they could gain even more insight into the global world of tomorrow.

Response by Cpl Dwight Wood made Feb 12 at 2018 9:44 PM

Cpl Dwight Wood — Mon, 12 Feb 2018 21:44:47 -0500

In a heartbeat. At least now

Response by Sgt Thomas Smeltzer made Feb 15 at 2018 11:46 AM

Sgt Thomas Smeltzer — Thu, 15 Feb 2018 11:46:38 -0500

Not no but hell no.

Response by MSG David Densmore made Feb 17 at 2018 12:08 PM

MSG David Densmore — Sat, 17 Feb 2018 12:08:53 -0500

Yes, sort of. When they did ask, I gave them encouragement, and the good and the bad. Given the chance, I'd do it again with my grandchildren.

Response by SGT Stephen Jaffe made Feb 17 at 2018 3:00 PM

SGT Stephen Jaffe — Sat, 17 Feb 2018 15:00:37 -0500

It depends on who the Commander-In-Chief (President) is. I would not want my child or anyone else who orders Rules of Engagement that get troopers killed. When I was a kid, the president and most of congress were veterans. These days very few are. How can you make decisions about fighting a war if you have never had the experience ? Also, we have very few flag officers who are not politicians. I am not a combat veteran, but I was in Vietnam. While we were in 'Nam' trying to keep the communists out of South Vietnam, the communists were taking over in the United States.

Response by SSgt Dean Gartman made Feb 17 at 2018 7:11 PM

SSgt Dean Gartman — Sat, 17 Feb 2018 19:11:58 -0500

Absolutely, to serve is a right and privilege. The few and the proud.

Response by 1stSgt Nelson Kerr made Feb 18 at 2018 10:52 PM

1stSgt Nelson Kerr — Sun, 18 Feb 2018 22:52:04 -0500

My eldest already does serve , and I would not recommend my youngest do so.

Response by MSG Charles Turner made Feb 18 at 2018 11:26 PM

MSG Charles Turner — Sun, 18 Feb 2018 23:26:38 -0500

I did but not the branches they chose.

Response by SP5 Peter Keane made Feb 19 at 2018 12:54 PM

SP5 Peter Keane — Mon, 19 Feb 2018 12:54:31 -0500

My baby girl in 1995. When having a hard time in college, I suggested she join the Army. Had I thought she was listening, I would have said Air Force, lol

Response by LCpl Richard Brennan made Feb 19 at 2018 3:56 PM

LCpl Richard Brennan — Mon, 19 Feb 2018 15:56:08 -0500

My son joined the Navy. I would support my grandsons to join as well.

Response by MSG David Johnson made Feb 20 at 2018 1:00 PM

MSG David Johnson — Tue, 20 Feb 2018 13:00:31 -0500

Yes, my son growing up always wanted to join the Army. His mother and I divorced when he was 4 years old, and he grew up with her. But as he got older she worked nights so he grew up with no adult supervision and dropped out of school in the 9th grade.
Over time his attitude changed because of OIF and OEF, but because of of dropping out he decided to join the Job Corp instead. I think if there had not been the GWOT he may have joined up, but even a $20k sign up bonus couldn't lure him into signing up.
However, I have a niece who has talked with me on a couple of occasions for advice on what service, or what kind of jobs that might carry over into a civilian career. I am always available to the younger generations to share my knowledge and to steer them away from something that I know for a fact they are not ready for, but have stars in their eyes from movies about a certain MOS.

Response by CSM Elmer Feick Jr. made Feb 22 at 2018 11:25 PM

CSM Elmer Feick Jr. — Thu, 22 Feb 2018 23:25:33 -0500

Absolutely, but to answer your question more precisely, let's take a look at today's generation...every generation has its own imprint and today's generation is no different. Anyone can google search what today's generational imprint looks like and most would agree that they lost their way. Between the Millennial and Generation Z populations that could fill our ranks today, the military may be their only salvation.
Sure these are complex times and warfare is no different. Today's generation has a lot of potential but I think the military would provide them sound foundational values which is lacking in today's society.

Response by SFC Mark Klaers made Feb 23 at 2018 8:00 AM

SFC Mark Klaers — Fri, 23 Feb 2018 08:00:53 -0500

Knowing what I got out of the military...the life experiences, friendships and benefits(personal and financial)that I gained...Yes, absolutely. Will I be disappointed if he doesn't join? Yes. But it's not for everyone and if that's his decision, so be it.

Response by Cpl Christian Sotoparra made Feb 23 at 2018 7:54 PM

Cpl Christian Sotoparra — Fri, 23 Feb 2018 19:54:58 -0500

No, never. I might be the minority here, but there are a lot better opportunities outside the military. Yes the military offers great benefits, but they are not worth it for what the military is asking for. My kids will never know I was in the military.

Response by Cpl Tomas Madrid made Feb 24 at 2018 12:04 PM

Cpl Tomas Madrid — Sat, 24 Feb 2018 12:04:43 -0500

My son wanted to join out of high school, so I gave him my blessing on one condition, join the Air Force. As a Former Marine grunt, I wanted him to have nothing to do with the Corps. He's been in for over a year now and absolutely loves it. He's deploying to Afghanistan in May.

Response by CPL Dolores Spencer made Feb 27 at 2018 2:22 AM

CPL Dolores Spencer — Tue, 27 Feb 2018 02:22:35 -0500

We are a military family and had been for generations, my children's grand father was a Civil Engineer their great grand father was an Admiral and their uncle was a US Army Lt General for the Corp of Engineers, USMA graduate, it is up to my children whether or not they want to serve in the Military, I would be proud if one of them decided to join and serve honorably as I did and their father.

Response by PO1 Gerald Sutton made Feb 27 at 2018 8:21 PM

PO1 Gerald Sutton — Tue, 27 Feb 2018 20:21:19 -0500

It would depend on the situation. If it was truly for national defense I would say ok. If it was for protecting oil companies or other corporate interests I would say no. I did 20 years and woke up to the fact that we were sacrificing much so corporations could steal from other countries deemed our enemies.

Response by LCDR Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 28 at 2018 6:13 PM

LCDR Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 28 Feb 2018 18:13:18 -0500

First, a quote from President John Adams, “I must study politics and war, that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and commerce. My sons ought to study mathematics and architecture, geography, natural history and naval architecture, navigation, commerce and agriculture in order to give their children a right to study theology, painting, poetry, music, philosophy, history, literature, statuary, tapestry and porcelain.”
Second, I remember at age 14, giving my Army SSG-draftee Signal Corps In Germany in 1950s grandfather a National Defense Medal id found. “You know, Granddad never enjoyed his time in the Service.” was all he said. He kept the medal close to him for the remainder of his life.
Thirdly, I seem to recall a commercial of a girl coming to America, and it showed her working throughout her entire life, even into old age. It closed when her granddaughter graduated from college with her degree, and said “Thank you Grandma.” The girl turned elderly lady said something like, “It was all for you and your children.”
Short answer: No, I would not want my children to join.
As I write this, in my office is my grandfathers 1950s Army enlisted service cover. Next to it is my fathers 1970s Army Officer Service cover. Next to that is my 2000s+ Navy Officer Service cover. We’ve paid the costs for them to do something else. Yes, serve people, our Lord did that; always serve. But not here, I don’t know that I could stand seeing them become a part of this profession and what it requires.
But if they want to, I’ll answer their questions, tell them straight up the reality, and guide them where I think their gifting and personality would best suit them.
Maybe it’s selfish, maybe it’s because my oldest is 2 and I don’t want his innocence or his caring heart crushed by the world. Maybe I’m an oxymoron and want to protect him from the protecting professions.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 28 at 2018 9:09 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 28 Feb 2018 21:09:21 -0500

Why of course, my sons do now. Parents should always encourage their children to do something, instead allowing them staying home and doing nothing.
And look at those smiles, I think they're happy.

Response by SFC Robert Maldonado made Mar 1 at 2018 1:33 PM

SFC Robert Maldonado — Thu, 01 Mar 2018 13:33:35 -0500

Yes

Response by SFC Robin Patty made Mar 8 at 2018 9:37 AM

SFC Robin Patty — Thu, 08 Mar 2018 09:37:13 -0500

I wouldn’t encourage or discourage them, just be there with the recruiter if they do decide to join. But there’s one thing that I’d warn them about and that’s the toll that some MOSs can take on your body. All but the first 4 years of mt career we’re spent as a Special Forces operator. My body, especially my spinal column is a wreck!

Response by TSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 9 at 2018 10:19 PM

TSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 09 Mar 2018 22:19:23 -0500

Years ago I would have told anyone interested to join. The rules have changed and so have a lot of policies. I joined to serve and used the GI Bill.
I recently retired after 32 years in the Reserves.
there are better opportunities to serve outside the military with a much better lifestyle. The military system is broken in my opinion with no change in sight.

Response by LTC Frank Baum made Mar 9 at 2018 10:56 PM

LTC Frank Baum — Fri, 09 Mar 2018 22:56:44 -0500

I'm a career Army officer, now retired. Son #1 is on a four-year Army ROTC scholarship right now. Son #2 just accepted his four-year Air Force ROTC scholarship today. I'm pretty pleased.

Response by LT Michaline Schalton made Mar 20 at 2018 1:09 PM

LT Michaline Schalton — Tue, 20 Mar 2018 13:09:50 -0400

I wholeheartedly support my son's decision to join the Army after graduating from college. It's his life and his choice.

Response by LTC Robert Theriot made Mar 20 at 2018 1:40 PM

LTC Robert Theriot — Tue, 20 Mar 2018 13:40:39 -0400

yes

Response by 2LT Ronald Reimer made Mar 21 at 2018 5:04 AM

2LT Ronald Reimer — Wed, 21 Mar 2018 05:04:34 -0400

I would, and I have. We love our kids and want the best for them. We also love our country and want what’s best for her. We are all a big family, and I would support and encourage my kids to serve their country as they wish. (I would also encourage them and support them in whatever they choose to do with their lives. I really like the gentleman above who said that he encourages his kids to “First, Love America; 2: Live for something bigger than yourself.......”. Awesome!)

Response by SFC John Scanlon made Mar 21 at 2018 8:09 AM

SFC John Scanlon — Wed, 21 Mar 2018 08:09:08 -0400

My daughter is only ten. So changes can still happen to both schools and the military. Army was bad in 70s changed in 80s, so there is hope. Same for schools. Right now I would say no to military

Response by PO2 Raven Attwood made Mar 22 at 2018 11:56 PM

PO2 Raven Attwood — Thu, 22 Mar 2018 23:56:27 -0400

Yes, but I would encourage him (my son--my daughter has health issues that foreclose the military as a path for her) to enlist in the Navy or Air Force. Currently, he thinks being a shipboard Damage Controlman would be the Coolest Job Ever. Mind you, he's 7, so who knows what will change in the next 10 years? I do know that right now it's looking like the GI Bill will be the likeliest path to college for him, unless something significantly changes in the college financial aid system.

Response by CW3 Lysle Seelig made Mar 23 at 2018 11:01 AM

CW3 Lysle Seelig — Fri, 23 Mar 2018 11:01:59 -0400

Both my boys asked me for my advice on this and here's what I told them; "I had some of the worst days of my life while serving but I also had some of the best days of my life. I wouldn't trade the experience for anything. This is a decision you will have to make for yourself."

Response by CPL Rhett Madison made Mar 24 at 2018 2:48 PM

CPL Rhett Madison — Sat, 24 Mar 2018 14:48:28 -0400

No!

Response by CPT Jay Goodan made Mar 25 at 2018 12:17 AM

CPT Jay Goodan — Sun, 25 Mar 2018 00:17:23 -0400

I was drafted at 26. commissioned at 27 and served active for 5 and reserve for 7 leaving in 1977 as a Captain 1542. Best thing that ever happened to me and I would certainly recommend it. My grandson is about to deploy with the AF to Kabul and another is trying to pass the enlistment test for the Army. Having trouble with the science part. Any suggestions? Are waivers available?

Response by SFC (CA) Roland Dell made Mar 26 at 2018 12:52 AM

SFC (CA) Roland Dell — Mon, 26 Mar 2018 00:52:17 -0400

I really do not like to have and say this, but no. That is until the welfare of the majority of our troops (men) are put back atop of social experimentations, and the seriousness of war, and war (training) policies are recognized and made by the war colleges from the results studied in combat, rather than career politicians, who seem more concerned with hurting people's feelings, than actually getting them hurt or killed!
I remember when you couldn't be selected for deployment for simply needing Asthma medication, and how something like hormonal therapy could even be considered deployable, is beyond my comprehension, not to mention the cost to the American taxpayer!
It's a very violent world, and idealism must be tempered with reality. I am less concerned about who is offended, than rather who may be killed unnecessarily.
On a personal level, I also think it is primarily a man's job to defend women and children, although this will undoubtedly sound most antiquated at best, and sexist at worst! Oh how I'm glad we can still enjoy freedom of speech in this Nation!

Response by PV2 Jon Terhune made Mar 26 at 2018 9:06 PM

PV2 Jon Terhune — Mon, 26 Mar 2018 21:06:29 -0400

most of my children went into the military, 2 went to the Air force Academy and 1 into the Army. The 1 in the Army got hurt in Basic and discharged, 1 of the Academy Grads retired as a Lt Col, the other Academy Grad did 6 years and got recruited by Raytheon and 1 of my Wife's children went into the Navy. 4 out of 5 kind of show's where I stand, but I did encourage them not to become Paratroopers, like I was.

Response by SSG Guy Gould made Mar 29 at 2018 11:50 PM

SSG Guy Gould — Thu, 29 Mar 2018 23:50:58 -0400

From the days of Charlemagne and the Vikings (and probably before) until today our family has a long legacy of uninterrupted military service to England and the U.S. Every generation has provided fighting men. My brother and I are the last ones unless there are some still in England. It turns out that once my generation dies there will be no more blood descendants in the U.S. with male sons. As it has been from the beginning, Non nobis Domine, non nobis, sed nomini tuo da gloriam.

Response by SPC Josh McCoy made Mar 30 at 2018 11:19 AM

SPC Josh McCoy — Fri, 30 Mar 2018 11:19:14 -0400

I am torn between the answer I have. Part of me says yes join up. You will be in the company and presence of America’s finest. You’ll learn everything you need to learn about being a productive member of American society. The benefits are great and the pride of serving is the best you can have. President Reagan did say that America is but one generation from collapse. With today’s society the way it is maybe I should push them to fight.
The other part of me says that I fought hard enough so they would never have to see the real world. War is hell and it changes you. Maybe that’s a selfish observation or the fatherly instinct coming out in that statement. But if either one of my boys wants to go, I can definitely give them the best way and call BS on the recruiter lol

Response by CW4 Robert Goldsmith made Mar 31 at 2018 7:25 PM

CW4 Robert Goldsmith — Sat, 31 Mar 2018 19:25:12 -0400

I'm a father of two daughters. Since I served in the Marines and Army, I told them they could join the military but not serve in either of those branches if they chose to join due to the extended deployments in comparison to the other branches. They did not serve however, choosing college instead, and I'm glad they didn't because the military's sexual harassment policy and punishment of sexual predators is a joke. Local commanders should not have authority in these cases. Too many times, the offenders get reassigned and continue their behavior. Instead, these cases should be turned over to the jurisdiction of the U.S. Magistrate to investigate and prosecute these criminals, to include registration as sex offenders, jail time and other than honorable discharges so they lose all benefits that are rendered to honorable service members. Military service is honorable and the young men and women who have volunteered to serve for the past 40-plus years deserve equal respect.

Response by Lt Col Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 2 at 2018 6:27 AM

Lt Col Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 02 Apr 2018 06:27:44 -0400

I have mentioned to both my daughters to consider one of the academies, or ROTC (I attended USAFA and served 21 years, all as a pilot). Neither showed any interest, in either aviation or the military in general. I suggested it to them so that they would learn discipline, and see the world, whether as aircrew or not. I am not especially disappointed; they are girls. I do recommend the military as a right of passage for young men. I am saddened just a bit that after me (Desert Storm), dad (WWII) and his dad (WWI) the line of veterans in the family ends.

Response by Jim Scrimsher made Apr 6 at 2018 12:15 AM

Jim Scrimsher — Fri, 06 Apr 2018 00:15:55 -0400

My two cents... Joining the Military is not about the benefits... it is about serving your country... if you join the military for the benefits please defer...It's ok it is called the service for a reason...it is not about what you can get out of income or potential benefits but what you can do to serve your country. The military is not about a job importunity it is a privilege. I do not judge but please if you join the military do it for altruistic reasons not a self centered path to what can be provided to you. The private sector has ample opportunities for that sort of pursuit.

Response by CSM Jim Corrin made Apr 8 at 2018 8:38 AM

CSM Jim Corrin — Sun, 08 Apr 2018 08:38:13 -0400

In today's society young people are not placed in an environment that forces them to perform both as an individual and as part of a team. The military teaches these things more quickly and thoroughly than any other venue while demanding an individuals best performance levels. It also is a buy-in into our country that does not exist in the civilian world. Even if a soldier does not make the military a career, the product is that we get a better civilian who can recognize a threat and is a force multiplier walking the streets of our country. I would prefer to not have all the social experiments that are forced upon our military. But that aside my answer is YES...

Response by CW4 Jim Webb made Apr 8 at 2018 8:54 AM

CW4 Jim Webb — Sun, 08 Apr 2018 08:54:21 -0400

I would encourage them to explore all their options and then make an informed decision.

Response by MAJ Montgomery Granger made Apr 8 at 2018 9:13 AM

MAJ Montgomery Granger — Sun, 08 Apr 2018 09:13:03 -0400

I have and I do. If nothing else it is a great way to get a young person's mind straight about responsibility, teamwork and loyalty. Of course there are tremendous other benefits to serving, especially if one makes a career out of it. The one constant in the universe is change, but the thing that always stays the same about service is that it is a potentially dangerous and deadly job, but also one that is essential if we want to maintain our priceless freedom and liberty. Hooah!

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 8 at 2018 12:51 PM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 08 Apr 2018 12:51:52 -0400

Honestly, no I wouldn’t. The politically correct hogwash is reducing our lethality and will result in deaths. I don’t want my progeny to die validating a social experiment. If the military returns to strict high standards based on MOS without any gender “norming” “ adjusted scales etc”. The military should reflect the nation it serves but the point is to project lethal offensive and defensive force not hold fire side pep rallies and unity clambakes. It’s very simple. Establish tough high standards for combat arms and each MOS and let the chips fall as they may. Zero tolerance for discrimination. If top delta candidate is female move everyone else aside, etc. true equality and fairness.
The same goes for fire departments, police, medical school etc. May the best candidate win. War is hell. Those who actually fight it should be too. Other MOSs can have different standards but combat arms must meet highest standard whether that’s the politically correct answer or not.

Response by Lt Col Bill Fletcher made Apr 10 at 2018 9:04 PM

Lt Col Bill Fletcher — Tue, 10 Apr 2018 21:04:38 -0400

Sadly, I did not. Both my Father and I served and are retired AF LTCs but under the most recent past administrations and under current rules and restrictions I could not recommend it. Too much danger, too many rules nothing enough fun to make the Patriotism worth the risk and the hassle.

Response by Maj Chris Clark made Apr 15 at 2018 8:06 PM

Maj Chris Clark — Sun, 15 Apr 2018 20:06:36 -0400

I raised my children to be God fearing, country loving Americans. One did an enlistment in the Corps (3D generation to do so) and the other 2 did not. The life in the Corps is not for everyone, but I am glad that so still feel the need to do so.

Response by Cpl Richard Bigham made Apr 15 at 2018 11:14 PM

Cpl Richard Bigham — Sun, 15 Apr 2018 23:14:05 -0400

No politicians don't care we are nothing but number and now it's a social experiment. I would encourage them to fight against an invading Army

Response by SSG Steven Borders made Apr 20 at 2018 12:38 PM

SSG Steven Borders — Fri, 20 Apr 2018 12:38:47 -0400

I have to say it is up to my daughters. I would be proud if they chose to serve, but I have a feeling that none of them will. My father MSgt Private RallyPoint Member was very surprised that I joined when I did. For one joining at 31 and having three children it was strange choice. But I had to do what was right for my family. I have had a unique career that is for sure.

Response by PVT Mark Brown made Apr 20 at 2018 12:46 PM

PVT Mark Brown — Fri, 20 Apr 2018 12:46:14 -0400

Good question, I am glad you asked it. Participation in the military is something I believe in strongly. I encouraged my sons and grandson to spend at least one enlistment period in the military, of course, they did not follow that course, much to my chagrin. There are several reasons for feeling that way. 1) As a citizen of America we owe it to our nation as a whole to become vested as a member of society (this vestiture can be earned in ways other than military service, ie Peace Corps, etc.); 2) The experience of growing up is significantly accelerated thanks to military service; 3) Conviction of one's beliefs may become more concretely cemented as a result of service; 4) Love for one's country and a feeling of having contributed to the value of our way of life as a whole.
I am sure there are more reasons but these are, perhaps, the uppermost in my mind (an old mind, but a mind nonetheless.)

Response by SP5 Geoffrey Vannerson made Apr 20 at 2018 1:01 PM

SP5 Geoffrey Vannerson — Fri, 20 Apr 2018 13:01:34 -0400

As a parent I didn't make that decision for my two son's, they made that choice on their own. My oldest son joined the Marine corp right out of High school and my other son was in Air force ROTC in high school but after graduation joined the Army. It is a sense of honor,pride and commitment to ones country. Both have been battle tested. My second son has served in Afghanistan and Kuwait. I would be one hot mess were it not for the military. I encourage my children to "explore all options in life." If the military just happens to be one, that makes me proud; however, I don't want them to do it just because I did, I want them to do it for themselves. I want them to do it because of love of country, love of fellow man/woman, and self respect knowing they were willing to lay down their lives for their fellow countrymen, or the oppressed. (See John 15:13 in the Bible.)

Response by CPT Harbourcay . made Apr 21 at 2018 1:13 AM

CPT Harbourcay . — Sat, 21 Apr 2018 01:13:30 -0400

I was a rifle platoon and rifle company commander in Vietnam. I would not encourage my children to serve unless, when this country goes to war, it intends to win it. I lost too many good men for absolutely nothing.

Response by Cpl Mark Gray made Apr 22 at 2018 6:30 PM

Cpl Mark Gray — Sun, 22 Apr 2018 18:30:37 -0400

I served 1963-1967 and 1970-1973 , I've been around the world by ship and Plane, met thousands people, visited a lot of countries, participated in a Banana War in Santo Damingo, Made a Med cruise in 1966-67 participated in a Broken Arrow, when one of our B-52's crashed, loaded with A-Bombs, in Spain. Came home and volunterred for Vietnam.
Made 4 Carrib Cruises Landed in Viequez stayed in quanset huts, had drive in Movies every night, but no cars and if the movie was boring look up and watch the show in the sky, shooting stars, all the constellation you never see in the Northern Hemisphere . Been through a hurricane in a Troop ship LSD ( Landing ship Dock) Half flat bottom and half not. Been on Troop ships, APA's where the Keel was laid during WW-2 Went down the cargo nets just like in the movies, Into Higgins Boats, called LC VP and the Steel class LCM's My first Gunnery Sargent was Sargent Starret Gunnery Sargent E-7, new rank structure. 25% of my first platoon was WW-2 Vets and Korean Vets. They mustered with us Separately and even wore the old Harringbone Utilities, But not even they could wear their old Leather belts on their greens. There were no Lance Corporal's but PFC's or Corporal's.

My first assault weapon was an M-1, tell that to BABS Boxer, then the M-14

Got married and in 3 years realized that Chesty was right, "When the Marine Corps wants you to have a wife you will be issued one, with your 782 gear."

Would I recommend it to my Son Absolutely, Would I do it again? Twice if I could.

Response by SFC Tony Bennett made Apr 25 at 2018 1:12 AM

SFC Tony Bennett — Wed, 25 Apr 2018 01:12:41 -0400

HELL NO! My daughter graduated from college with a 4.0 GPA. I idea of her being at the beckon call of a coward who when it was his turn to serve in the military ran like a scared rabbit. NEVER! You can bet your last money that there will NEVER be a tRUMP in uniform. His grandfather was banished from Germany for shirking mandatory military service. So as you can see the fruit doesn't fall far from the tree. Let Commander "Bonespur" McBragg send someone else's kid in harms way while his stay at home. PASS

Response by SGT Jim Ramge, MBA made Apr 26 at 2018 12:07 PM

SGT Jim Ramge, MBA — Thu, 26 Apr 2018 12:07:42 -0400

Yes, but optional! Serve your country for four years, earn your freedoms Son! Generationally, our family has served since coming to this country out of respect for those freedoms... Enough said!

Response by SN Jay Perry made Apr 30 at 2018 11:11 AM

SN Jay Perry — Mon, 30 Apr 2018 11:11:11 -0400

My father was active duty for over 30 years (retired with two stars). When I decided to join the USN he did his level best to try and make sure that I went into it with open eyes and all the information that he felt I could use. When my brother got out of the college and decided to join the USN (he did 20 and retired an O-5) my father also did his level best to make sure that he too got all the information about service life he could use. We ALL made the agreement and that we would never seek of accept a posting to a ship/station with any member of the family, due to reverse nepotism (My father would have expected MORE of us than was normally required). We both served well, and did our time honorably (some dozen cruises between us, and a four year foreign deployment). I think that when my daughter (now 16) or my nephew (now 12), asks me about serving I will do as their grand-father did and give them all the information (good and bad) that they can use to help them reach a decision.

Response by SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member made May 1 at 2018 1:47 AM

SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 01 May 2018 01:47:44 -0400

My step son graduated last May with a BA in Electrical Engineering. Since graduating he has not been able to find an entry level position most likely because of his lack of experience, no work history and he was unable do an internship. He has now been out of school for a year and I encouraged him to check into the opportunities offered by the Mational Guard. I served on active duty from 79-82 and have been in the ARNG since 2005. I have been full time since 2008 and absolutely love serving in the NG. I would encourage him to go active duty but he was very enthusiastic about the NG after speaking with a recruiter. I told him whatever his decision was I would support him but also told him to seriously consider his future goals and the best way to achieve them. He is extremely intelligent and scored a 99 on his ASVAB as well as getting a 139 GT. I was very proud of him even though he beat my GT by 6 pts. They really wanted him to go OCS direct from BCT. As proud as I would have been to have him become an officer I encouraged him to do what best met his needs and goals. He was unable to get the one MOS I was really hoping he could get because of a single ticket he got while in college. Unfortunately a Petty Misdemeanor disqualified him from getting a TS clearance as a 35T. He surprised me by accepting a 91D Power Generation Specialist as it most closely tied into his EE degree. His greatest priority was tuition repayment and this met his plan to pay of his entire $30k plus student debt. He’ll also be able to save all his pay and should be able to come home with $10k in the bank and some new skills to hopefully help him get an entry level EE job with a major power company. I can’t help but think what a great experience this will be for him and give him the confidence, additional skills he needs and something extra to put on his resume to get a great start on life. He will also be able to go back to school to work on his Masters while serving. I’m hoping he likes this enough and can find a warrant position that would fit his needs but even if he just serves his term and gets out I think it will help him in ways he can’t imagine. His mother and father both served AD in the Air Force so I’m even more happy the Army was able to provide him with the best opportunities. Only time will tell but I hav no doubt this will be a positive experience for him.

Response by SFC Chet Crowell made May 5 at 2018 10:45 AM

SFC Chet Crowell — Sat, 05 May 2018 10:45:44 -0400

After spending many years in the Army working with professionals from the various other branches of the Military; I encourage young people to join the Air Force, or Navy. Enlist, then go to College. Stay in the Reserves, or Guard while attending College. Attend ROTC, or OCS while in College. Receive your Commision and then decide whether to stay part-time, or full-time. The Military needs thinkers, not just trigger pullers. Trigger pullers who can think are the essential need today. Maturity, weapon discipline and cultural understanding is key to today’s foreign battles. Recently I assisted a young lady going into the Air Force. She’s now an Air Force Linguist, speaking Farsi. She has a Top Secret Clearance and her future opportunities are immense.

Response by Maj Earl Tilford made May 6 at 2018 9:24 AM

Maj Earl Tilford — Sun, 06 May 2018 09:24:52 -0400

Absolutely. I served 21 years as an Air Force intelligence officer and 10 years as a civilian director of research for the US Army. Then I taught at a conservative Christian college and continue to lecture in history at a major university. My years in the military were extremely valuable. My kids chose not to serve but I would have been pleased had they done so. A democratic republic like ours is a rare thing and historically fragile. They survive only as long as responsible citizens serve the republic.

Response by SPC George Osbun made May 7 at 2018 5:02 PM

SPC George Osbun — Mon, 07 May 2018 17:02:02 -0400

It depends on the individual. It is not for everybody for sure. It's a calling.

Response by SSG Russell Schultz made May 10 at 2018 6:21 PM

SSG Russell Schultz — Thu, 10 May 2018 18:21:16 -0400

Not now. There is too much change and social media has taken away from soldier's mission.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made May 11 at 2018 12:07 PM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 11 May 2018 12:07:16 -0400

I encouraged my son to join. It just wasn't something he was interested in, particularly after my deployment...took a lot out of him.

Response by Maj Bruce Pawlak made May 11 at 2018 12:33 PM

Maj Bruce Pawlak — Fri, 11 May 2018 12:33:31 -0400

Tough question. I love my country and am proud of my service. However I also have the perception that our government doesn't cherish our service as much as we do - the government seems to continuously undermine our military retirement systems, healthcare, commissary's, exchange's, etc. They can't even seem to make up their minds on what uniforms they will wear. Basically I see that the retirement system seems to replicate private industry retirements... so why should our children live a hard life and be in harm's way when our country doesn't even appreciate them enough to take care of them when they've given their all and broken down and aging?

Yes, I do admit that I am jaded with this perspective and I wish that I could see it differently.

So having said this... I would encourage my children to serve a single hitch in the military... to do what should be an obligatory duty across the board for all youth... and after that don't walk but RUN the other direction towards employers who cherish hard working employees and reward them for their hard work... and I especially would NOT encourage them to go into the Reserve or Guard for exactly the same reason... especially since employers are weary of Reservists and Guardsmen (and women) who are performing active duty tours at an unreasonable rate (from the employer's perspective). And then there is the intense wear and tear on military families and the growing rates of divorce. Thus one single tour of duty and then out would be my loving advice.

Response by SSG Shawn Mcfadden made May 12 at 2018 8:44 AM

SSG Shawn Mcfadden — Sat, 12 May 2018 08:44:30 -0400

I've told my son more than once that he should not think he does not have options in life. The only question he should have to ask, is how does he go about achieving his goal(s). I also told him if he joins the military, do it because he wants to, not because myself, his grand-fathers, uncles, and cousins joined before him.

Response by CH (LTC) Robert Leroe made May 12 at 2018 10:12 AM

CH (LTC) Robert Leroe — Sat, 12 May 2018 10:12:29 -0400

Yes, but with a caution to avoid the social issues because the military does not appear to be tolerant of people who disagree with their worldview.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made May 13 at 2018 7:10 PM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 13 May 2018 19:10:50 -0400

Hell no,todays ARMY is all about politics and fat bureaucrats trying to decide what those of us willing to serve should sacrifice the majority of which or objectives which line their pockets or serve their hidden agendas

Response by TSgt David Whitmore made May 14 at 2018 11:22 AM

TSgt David Whitmore — Mon, 14 May 2018 11:22:19 -0400

If that is what they wished to do, if they had wanted to try the military life. In my case, none of my children wanted to join right out of high school.
One son had considered enlisting after he graduated college, he knew there was a big difference between what officers and enlisted do, and he was making a deliberate choice. He has not yet reached that 'Age' where he won't be eligible; but, it is HIS choice to make for HIS and his family's Lifestyle.
Two of my sons are not eligible to join for health reasons, but only one of them is upset by that fact. He wanted to enlist.
My daughter expressed no interest in the military; her adopted-father was prior Army, and he was a total ass. By the time I came into the picture, being active duty and totally from the man she called 'Dad', she was in active rebellion and attempting to destroy her life because she didn't think she was worth anybody's effort and love.
I am giving 'old person advice' to her children; but I am not pushing them one way or another.
Two of her kids, are wanting to enlist after they get out of High School. The oldest daughter is in JrROTC (2nd year of it), and just finishing 11th grade; and plans to stay in the program for her last year of school. She has been working out to tone her body, getting ready for Basic and then for real soldiering. She actually tried to get into Basic during her summer break, but her birthdate prevented that option for her. Which means that she has another year to get into even better shape. She participates in 'Mud Runs' for fun! She also goes hunting regularly, and her Mom and Step-Dad insisted that she learn to field dress her kills; she says it's 'icky', but she does it. The youngest of the three will be entering 9th grade next year. He too thinks he wants to enlist; but I might twist him up a bit. He is already taking college-level courses at his school. And, I MAKE him THINK. I push him to THINK. And think to hard. I push him to read and then I ask questions about what he read. I told yesterday, that if this was what he wanted to do with his life, he was going to have to start now to get himself into shape to meet the physical requirements of the military.
Actually, I make all three of the grand-kids think about their futures while at the same time reminding them over and over again that I will love them no matter what they do or how their lives turn out. Their Lives, their choices.

Sorry this was a bit long. 20 years in the Air Force does weird things to your brain.

Response by SN David Harris made May 15 at 2018 9:05 PM

SN David Harris — Tue, 15 May 2018 21:05:22 -0400

I always answered questions my son had about my navy time. When he was 14 he joined the sea cadets, our sea cadet unit was run by veterans of all branches and was able to ask and get answers about the various branches. Also because of the advantages from that experience , he ended up joining the navy and was an MM2 (E-5) in 3 years. I never pushed him to join and didn't discourage him from joining. I tried to make sure he had as many facts as possible before he made his decision.

Response by Cpl Kristen King made May 17 at 2018 6:40 PM

Cpl Kristen King — Thu, 17 May 2018 18:40:27 -0400

First and foremost every solider and Marine is a rifleman. The MOS is topping on the cake. I think that serving in the military is good. Not everyone should attended College or university. We will need mechanics, plumbers, electricians but you can do those in the military too.

Response by CPO Andy Grow made May 18 at 2018 7:02 AM

CPO Andy Grow — Fri, 18 May 2018 07:02:38 -0400

I absolutely would, if that's a path either of my boys are interested in pursuing. The U.S. Military isn't all about killing...there's the often overlooked U.S. Coast Guard that can provide all the same sorts of positive (and negative!) things that any other service offers, just on a smaller scale. I did 23 years and retired as a Chief...and I would do it all over again if given the chance.

Response by COL Private RallyPoint Member made May 20 at 2018 11:12 AM

COL Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 20 May 2018 11:12:07 -0400

My daughter will be on active duty in a few weeks. She has a five year commitment. I am concerned but it was her decision five years ago. As an Artilleryman I’m sure she will hold her own, but it’s the other knuckleheads I’m worried about.

Response by PO3 David Gronbach made May 20 at 2018 12:39 PM

PO3 David Gronbach — Sun, 20 May 2018 12:39:12 -0400

Joining the Military was the smartest thing I ever did (in the 80s). But today's military is NOT my military. We have lost sight of the military's purpose. It's not the place for snowflakes to get an education and a GI Bill. It's not where you can be offended and get hugs after someone hurts your feelings. It's not for Facebook and Selfies. And it's not for being patronized with cliche' platitudes "TYFYS"
The military is hard. It's not supposed to be fun (although I did have a lot of fun lol).

Today's military has allowed "mommy" to ride on the schoolbus with little Johnny and Julie while she wipes their face with a spit napkin.

Wake me when we start making warriors again.

Response by GySgt Moses Lozano made May 20 at 2018 1:23 PM

GySgt Moses Lozano — Sun, 20 May 2018 13:23:02 -0400

I would but only for one enlistment. Since they changed retirement system, the military in general is going to have a hard time keeping careerist! That is until the next major war! Aside from the two current wars we are fighting now.

Response by MGySgt Jerry Suarez made May 20 at 2018 1:27 PM

MGySgt Jerry Suarez — Sun, 20 May 2018 13:27:11 -0400

I think we as parents should never discourage or encourage anything when it comes to our kids. Our jobs as parents is to give them answers to questions asked give them pros and cons and then let them make an informed decision. Also realize that any info we give them should be current and factual. The military, workforce and college have different prereq and expectations now. We cant think or give them information based on what we thru years ago that's not fair to them.

Response by Sgt Melody Anisko made May 21 at 2018 6:19 PM

Sgt Melody Anisko — Mon, 21 May 2018 18:19:34 -0400

With the current administration - I did - I'm proud that one of our son's has chosen to follow in our footsteps! He isn't going in with assumptions he is going in knowing what he is in for.

Response by SPC Deon Holmes made May 23 at 2018 3:09 PM

SPC Deon Holmes — Wed, 23 May 2018 15:09:19 -0400

Nope! I've already explained to them what the history and goals are of the system. They know not to ever participate in the killing of people who have not harmed or threatened them. Not to fall for the lies of the bureaucrats, bankers, corporations or their agents name of some cause. They know what it's really about. And yes they asked then why did I. I told them I was young and dumb and didn't have real men around me to tell me higher truths about how the world really works. +1 for daddy!

Response by PO3 Grant Skiles made May 24 at 2018 3:57 PM

PO3 Grant Skiles — Thu, 24 May 2018 15:57:22 -0400

I would recommend Air Force or Navy only. Second only as an Officer and funny be single when going in. Deployments break up even the strongest of couples. There are always hounds back at home working on lonely wives and husbands.

Response by MAJ Louis Giamo made May 24 at 2018 9:40 PM

MAJ Louis Giamo — Thu, 24 May 2018 21:40:01 -0400

I would and I did. My son has served for 8 years. He's been deployed twice to Afghanistan and Iraq.

Response by SSgt Gary Harris made May 26 at 2018 5:55 AM

SSgt Gary Harris — Sat, 26 May 2018 05:55:21 -0400

That would be their choice. I have been honest with them about the military both good and bad so my encouragement would be to continue your education and find something in life you truly love.

Response by Sgt Anthony Maske made May 29 at 2018 11:15 PM

Sgt Anthony Maske — Tue, 29 May 2018 23:15:19 -0400

No.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 31 at 2018 6:48 AM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 31 May 2018 06:48:29 -0400

I am still humbled and Honored that after 20 plus years of Army Brat life they still want (for themselves) the life I've provided for them.

Response by PO3 Calvin Esau made Jun 1 at 2018 10:54 AM

PO3 Calvin Esau — Fri, 01 Jun 2018 10:54:07 -0400

Yes, our is going to basic next summer, very proud of her.....

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 5 at 2018 1:46 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 05 Jun 2018 13:46:55 -0400

No. I want better for my children. I had my own reasons for joining, my children don't (and won't) have those reasons.

Response by SN Kristi Kalis made Jun 5 at 2018 6:20 PM

SN Kristi Kalis — Tue, 05 Jun 2018 18:20:25 -0400

My military service was nothing like my father's service or my grandfather's service. You can't compare apples to oranges. That being said, you can look at who is in the offices of POTUS and Congress as an indicator of how likely current military personnel are to be sent to an unnecessary death. We no longer fight for freedom or the ideals this country was founded on. We fight for oil, money and the whims of children in men's bodies. Our family has a tradition of service to this country dating back to the Revolutionary War up through OIF/OEF. I no longer support that tradition.

Response by Sgt William Turner made Jun 7 at 2018 12:46 PM

Sgt William Turner — Thu, 07 Jun 2018 12:46:32 -0400

this is totally their decision. i would never push them either way. all we can do as parents is guide when asked praise for their decisions and accomplishments and hope for the best.

Response by SCPO Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 15 at 2018 2:42 AM

SCPO Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 15 Jun 2018 02:42:22 -0400

Absolutely.

Response by CPL Dave Hoover made Jun 15 at 2018 2:51 AM

CPL Dave Hoover — Fri, 15 Jun 2018 02:51:34 -0400

Absolutely, yep.

Response by Sgt Jeff Martin made Jun 16 at 2018 2:22 PM

Sgt Jeff Martin — Sat, 16 Jun 2018 14:22:18 -0400

It is not what's going on in the world.....peace or conflict it's that serving is an honor. I encouraged both my children to go in. They didn't clear physicals. Now I'm on my grandkids. Both boys and girls. I was in in the 70s and 80s. Old school. We had the draft, but I volunteered. The only regret is I came out to early. I have 9 shots at getting one or more to join. If their parents haven't fucked them up totally. Wish me luck. Duty, Honor, Country!!!

Response by Cpl John Mathews made Jun 16 at 2018 3:36 PM

Cpl John Mathews — Sat, 16 Jun 2018 15:36:42 -0400

Have 2 daughters, both are very smart, driven, and in good physical shape. They are also small in stature and a bit stubborn. I doubt either would be a good fit for the military. If either wanted to serve, I would make sure they know what they would be getting into. If they chose to join, I would support them 110% but I would not encourage them. I think they are more suited to serve in other ways than the military. I do have young nieces and nephews who may have what it takes, and I would encourage them to consider military service. Being a Marine is a calling, it isn’t for everyone. I imagine the same is true for the other branches.

Response by SPC Donn Sinclair made Jun 17 at 2018 8:15 AM

SPC Donn Sinclair — Sun, 17 Jun 2018 08:15:32 -0400

My son was in grade school while Desert Storm was on TV 24/7. He decided right then he wanted to enlist and run Abrams tanks. I did my best to explain that there was a lot more to it than what he saw on TV. I told him there was no tradition to be followed, his grandfather, (WWII), and I, (Vietnam), were drafted. We went because we had to. He was undeterred. He graduated with honors from The Citadel, got his commission in the Army. It's been 15 years, jump school, Ranger school and four combat tours. He's a Major, on the list for Lt. Col. Am I proud? Absolutely. Did it do my parent's ulcer any good? Not so much.

Response by LTC Michael Hrycak made Jun 17 at 2018 8:48 AM

LTC Michael Hrycak — Sun, 17 Jun 2018 08:48:24 -0400

My older son, about to turn twenty years old and finished with his second year of college, just reported to Fort Knox, Kentucky, for Army ROTC Basic Camp. His school didn't have an ROTC program, and he had been in US Naval Sea Cadet Corps while in high school, so he transferred to a school with Army ROTC. I encouraged him to consider the benefit of having someone mentoring him, as well as being with Cadets that are motivated and looking ahead. I also reminded him that our family has a tradition of service, and freedom isn't free, never was and never will be. He can try the Army after commissioning, if it is something that he is excelling in, then stick around and make a difference, otherwise, you have served our great nation, no greater honor exists.

Response by Sgt Daniel Hobart made Jun 17 at 2018 7:57 PM

Sgt Daniel Hobart — Sun, 17 Jun 2018 19:57:22 -0400

I am a Vietnam Veteran, That fought in, "The Battle for Khe Sanh." We lost alot of men in a place we should have never been. I would fight again, if needed, but our youth today are on their way of being so different from us. I lost my Daughter in an Auto Accident and my Son from drugs, so I can't say if they would have gone to War or served. I think my son would have. He was born like me, to be a Marine for life. SEMPER FI

Response by LT Terry Lober made Jun 17 at 2018 10:39 PM

LT Terry Lober — Sun, 17 Jun 2018 22:39:33 -0400

I grew up in the military. My father was an Army Col. He served for 33 years. My mother was an Army Capt ( RN) in the South Pacific during WWII. I was "expected" to serve. I did as a naval officer. My eldest daughter is an Army veteran with an Honorable DD214.
I have an 18 year old son and I DO NOT WANT HIM TO SERVE. My family has been killing, getting shot, or shooting some other poor SOB enough. I cannot in good conscious encourage my son to serve. Not now. Not for at least another 6 years. By then, he can decide for himself. But right now, today, I cannot encourage anyone to join the military. We have been forgotten and after combat, ignored. Oh they say how much "they support" the military, loudly. But they do not put the taxpayers dollars where their big mouths are. NO.

Response by SPC Kenny Watson made Jun 18 at 2018 5:27 AM

SPC Kenny Watson — Mon, 18 Jun 2018 05:27:57 -0400

That choice I will leave up to my son. I'm not going to pressure him to go in at all. His choice and I will back him up all the way what ever he decides Sir.

Response by SPC Robert Gilhuly made Jun 20 at 2018 1:35 PM

SPC Robert Gilhuly — Wed, 20 Jun 2018 13:35:22 -0400

Serving is an honor, serving under presidents like Obama who does not back the military, makes it difficult to perform the job, serving under the presidency of Donald Trump, much different, he has our back. You have the right to disagree with me, However, this is my opinion, and this is my right

Response by CW3 Dick McManus made Jun 22 at 2018 2:01 AM

CW3 Dick McManus — Fri, 22 Jun 2018 02:01:27 -0400

Hell NO! The last declared war was the Korean War declared per our UN Treaty. We lost one third of our casualties in South Vietnam due to land mines and booby traps. We kill 3.4 million people in and around South Vietnam, for what? We had 15 to 30 percent of our soldiers addicted to heroin and it was sold to them by South Vietnamese Generals. And these Generals were in business with Santo Trafficante Jr who sold the heroin to people in the US. The CIA moved the opium from Laos to South Vietnam in order to fund the covert war in Laos. Desert Strom was a needless was of American soldiers and tax payer money given the Saddam Hussan told Bush Sr he was willing to leave Kuwait. Bush Sr. lied, telling Saddam Hussan the US would not get our nose bent out of shape should Iraq invade Kuwait in his grievance with them.

The second Iraq war was based on lies by AWOL BUSH et al.

We need to pass a DU resolution stating the US Generals responsible must be tried for this war crime

And in 1993 Congress passed a law ordering the military to research inhaled depleted uranium, but U.S. Army medical officer Col. Eric Daxon and Undersecretary of the Army Bernard Rostker did not do so.

During the first Gulf War invasion of Iraq in Aug. 1990 thru fall of 1991 the US contaminated Iraq with 350 ton of solid U-238 called depleted uranium (DU). But there was nothing depleted about this stuff. It did not have the high enough concentration of enriched U-235 in order to run a nuclear reactor or to make A-bombs. Mixed in with the U-238 were other radioactive hot particles like plutonium, U-235, etc.

This is a must watch video and the every US General who authorized the use of DU is guilty of a war crime. The only reason to use DU is against the most advance Russian tanks and then the US has a duty to clean up the mess. U-238 is denser than steel (harder) so it purpose was to punch a hole thru Russian tanks and/or explode.

I have been protesting about this subject since 1991. I had one of my friends, (also a subordinate) die of cancer after serving in the second Iraq War.

Recall the Gulf War Syndrome? This Gulf war had a total of 760 causalities, 294 dead and 463 injured and ill in this war. 159,238 and over 8,000 dead. Over 250,000 people who served in the Gulf war got sick. Over 700, 000 metric tons of DU stored.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/e-VkpR-wka8

DU is being added concrete in infrastructure and making construction workers. So don’t sit next to the new construction as it may radioactive. For more see his May 2017 u-tube.
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=doug+rokke&docid= [login to see] 59881690&mid=2367D70F815AD7231C222367D70F815AD7231C22&view=detail&FORM=VIRE

The Soviet Union announced that Iraq would be willing to negotiate an end to the crisis if it were assured that it could keep the Ar-Rumaylah oil fields in Kuwait and two offshore islands. McNamara favored sanctions against Hussein, as did retired Admiral Crowe. The conservative arms advisor to former President Reagan, Paul Nitze, also preferred sanctions, saying that he thought that we could outlast Hussein.

On November 2, 1990, the Security Council authorized "all necessary means," including military force, against Iraq if it did not withdraw from Kuwait by 15 January 1991. It was the first such resolution since UN sponsorship of the Korean War in 1950.

Hussein announced on December 6, 1990 that he was releasing all foreign hostages – including Americans. Democrats plunged into acrimonious opposition to Bush's policy regarding Iraq. On 12 January 1991, the US Congress authorized Bush's offensive against Iraq. The vote in the Senate was 52-47. The House of Representatives voted 250-183. Not an overwhelming majority for turning Iraq into a toxic wasteland. The Secretary-General of the United Nations, Javier Perez de Cuellar, was moving to and from Baghdad and other capitals, hoping that pressure would force Hussein to back down. Gorbachev tried to broker a peaceful settlement. Then Pope Jean Paul weighed in. On 16 January, one day after the deadline for Hussein had passed, the Holy Father telephoned Bush and asked that Bush postpone his offensive. GHW Bush refused.

In mid-February, Saddam Hussein was expecting the Allied offensive to begin soon, and he announced that he was ready to withdraw from Kuwait if Israel returned the territories it had been occupying since the 1960s. Gorbachev attempted a peace proposal to end the war before the Allies launched their assault. Iraq was in agreement with the proposal, which was for an unconditional Iraqi withdrawal from Kuwait; the Soviet Union committed to maintaining Iraq's state structure and borders; the end of all sanctions against Iraq; and no punitive actions against Saddam Hussein.

Bush's Secretary of Defense, Dick Cheney, had a problem with Schwarzkopf's continuing requests for delays.
USS George H W Bush.?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98MBz8bG_M4
For a great deal of detail, see:

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article9322.htm
In the 1991 Gulf War, the U.S. used 340 tons of depleted Uranium on parts of Iraq, Kuwait, and Saudi Arabia, firing thousands of DU bullets, tank shells, and artillery shells, and dropping thousands of bombs.
The U.S. got rid of another 10-20 tons or so in the Balkans during 1994-99. When UN investigators inspected depleted Uranium targets in the Balkans, they found that American DU was contaminated with other radioactive elements. DU was used in unmeasured amounts on target ranges in Hawaii, Okinawa, Panama, Puerto Rico, South Korea, and elsewhere.
According to a statement by NATO Secretary-General Lord Robertson, some 31,000 rounds of DU ammunition were used throughout Kosovo during the 11 weeks.
A minimum of 500 – 600 tons now litter Afghanistan,
Mainstream media have not covered depleted Uranium to any significant extent,
Undersecretary of the Army Bernard Rostker, head of DoD's Office of Gulf War Illnesses. In a DoD press release the …”fact that the lack of training did not result in any medically significant consequences for any of the people that were exposed.... The danger of being exposed was known to be so trivial - nonexistent." Rostker didn't challenge the accuracy of CBS "60 Minutes" reporting negligent exposure of U.S. troops to depleted Uranium and other toxins. "60 Minutes" devoted 12 minutes to the issue, in December 1999.

And in 1993 Congress passed a law ordering the military to research inhaled depleted uranium, but U.S. Army medical officer Col. Eric Daxon and Undersecretary of the Army Bernard Rostker did not do so.
You can listen to these two war criminals lie at:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psfK8ijrzyc

Managing DU in nuclear waste storage dumps would cost the U.S. Department of Energy billions of dollars.
USS George H W Bush.?

Richard McManus
Chief Warrant Officer-3/counterintelligence special agent, and combat paramedic/LPN, Vietnam, US Army retired,

Talk - Dr. Doug Rokke - Depleted Uranium (DU) - YouTube

Response by LCDR Glenn Adwell made Jun 22 at 2018 2:22 PM

LCDR Glenn Adwell — Fri, 22 Jun 2018 14:22:55 -0400

My son joined the Army out of high school with my blessing and served 8 years. My daughter went through ROTC and is currently serving as an Army officer. There are costs associated with serving in the military but the benefits far outweigh them.

Response by SSgt Brandon Marree made Jun 22 at 2018 6:46 PM

SSgt Brandon Marree — Fri, 22 Jun 2018 18:46:36 -0400

Absolutely. I would encourage my future children to join if they do or do not have an idea what they want to do later in life. They may discover what their true passion is and also the things they absolutely do not want to do with their life. Either way; the lessons are invaluable. I should also mention that it is family tradition to serve, having relatives that were in the Revolutionary War, the Civil War, World Wars I & II, Vietnam, Persian Gulf, OEF, and OEF.

I leveraged what I did in the ANG/AF to get my feet wet into what I do now (human resources) and I do not regret it. I enlisted in the ANG after I graduated with my undergrad degree (took a while to lose the 70 pounds to meet height/weight standards) and had a chance to see and do a lot of interesting things. They also paid for half of my master's degree and my professional certification so the educational opportunities are worth it.

The lessons learned from my military service were a continuation of my work-hard upbringing. Give it 100%, 100% of the time; it is easier to beg for forgiveness than to ask for permission; and to never let your guard down. Do what you need to do to make stuff happen. Push yourself until you can't go any further, then go another half mile. Do not make excuses, own up to mistakes and learn from them. All pretty simple stuff; I fit in like a square peg in a square hole.

I would gladly tell them all that I have experienced, the good, the bad and the ugly. If they would still be interested, I would personally drive them to the recruiters office. Let them make the most informed decision possible.

Response by 1SG Christopher Turk made Jun 24 at 2018 4:28 PM

1SG Christopher Turk — Sun, 24 Jun 2018 16:28:16 -0400

I will not encourage my son to join but if that is he path he chooses hen I will support and prepare him the best I can.

Response by MAJ Glenn Lasater made Jun 26 at 2018 8:51 PM

MAJ Glenn Lasater — Tue, 26 Jun 2018 20:51:31 -0400

I would discourage my children from joining the military. In fact, I discouraged my son from joining when he was about 20 years old.

The military has changed drastically since I served (1963 to 1986). The time honored standards of Duty, Honor, Country have been replaced with political correctness and dependence on technology. I'm very active in the veteran community and believe the many young vets that describe their environment and the conditions of their service.

I would never want my son to expose himself to the current conditions, especially considering that politicians think they can manage the conflict from their offices in Washington.

Response by Anthony Murawski made Jun 29 at 2018 12:00 PM

Anthony Murawski — Fri, 29 Jun 2018 12:00:25 -0400

YES I would.

Response by PFC John Curry made Jul 7 at 2018 1:36 PM

PFC John Curry — Sat, 07 Jul 2018 13:36:14 -0400

Absolutely! My ex-stepson still lives with me. He, like many Conservative Millennials, is disgusted with today's college SJW culture. It was his decision to enlist into the Navy at the end of this summer. I've been steering him in this direction since he came back to live with me and not my ex-wife (she thinks taking out a $100,000 debt to college-educate him is best - when he specifically admits he has no idea what he would want to study). He knows that the military has been great for my side of the family for over 180 years... and he has chosen to follow in our side's footsteps.
By the way, he is foreign-born (from a former Communist Bloc country) and only became a citizen 6 years ago. He has renounced his birth country and America is the only country worth serving.
I should also add that since my side of the family has been US military since at least the Mexican-American war, the US military has always been "on the table" for career possibilities... so this questions regarding "would I still encourage him" is rather moot.
My goal is to get him enlisted ASAP so he can start becoming a true adult now and not (like his peers) wait to grow up around the age of 35!

Response by CPO John Krawczyk made Jul 12 at 2018 2:24 PM

CPO John Krawczyk — Thu, 12 Jul 2018 14:24:44 -0400

Yes. She tried to enlist but was medically disqualified. It broke heart because the problem she has is controlled and if it was diagnosed after she applied she would have been in the Navy.

Response by SCPO Vanessa Crawford made Jul 19 at 2018 3:30 AM

SCPO Vanessa Crawford — Thu, 19 Jul 2018 03:30:53 -0400

i never encouraged either of my daughters to join the military but pretty much knew that my oldest most likely would. From the time she was 5 years old if you asked her what she wanted to be when she grew up her answer was a sailor like her mom.... so i wasn't surprised when she came to me to get my signature for her to enter the delayed entry program in her senior year of high school. I did sit her down and talk about the pros and cons of her choice but knew her mind had been made up for years. She was getting ready to be sworn in when the towers were hit. They asked everyone if they wanted time to think about whether to take the oath or not - she never even blinked. She is still in the Navy, its career for her. My youngest surprised me I will say. After graduating from high school she joined the Air Force and did 6 years. That one I never saw coming. Both made their own decisions without encouragement or discouragement from me and I couldn't be prouder of either of them.

Response by CPL Patrick Johnopolos made Jul 20 at 2018 6:51 AM

CPL Patrick Johnopolos — Fri, 20 Jul 2018 06:51:04 -0400

The discipline and self discipline that service gives is priceless. The danger is the cost and develop es the character as well. The streets of the major city is not guaranteed and produces less on a personal level. The teamwork and interdependence are also rewards.

Response by Robyn Morrow made Jul 20 at 2018 2:32 PM

Robyn Morrow — Fri, 20 Jul 2018 14:32:07 -0400

My son has always want to join the army since he was 6 years old. He is now has just re-enlisted infantry. He wants to deploy. But I as his mother hopes that never happens. He feels he hasn’t done his service to the military unless he deploys. My dad, uncle, brother served and now all 4 of my nephews are serving in the army now. It’s their decision to make.

Response by SPC Herb Jorgensen made Jul 20 at 2018 2:53 PM

SPC Herb Jorgensen — Fri, 20 Jul 2018 14:53:58 -0400

In the context for YES and NO my own son was denied Navy service due to having an engineering degree completed before he enlisted,as he had inquired on an OCS delayed entry as he continued his education.This process was entailed for over a two year period.Under current command structure and previous lost structure,it would be their own decision,and I would support it but would have reservations on several fronts.

Response by CPT Bob Deissig made Jul 21 at 2018 3:49 PM

CPT Bob Deissig — Sat, 21 Jul 2018 15:49:00 -0400

Yes. My oldest son was an Apache pilot with two tours in Iraq with 4th. Infantry. Youngest son did early enlistment, but because of several concussions was medically discharged. I think everyone should spend 2 years in the military.

Response by Sgt Byron J. Hendrix made Jul 22 at 2018 7:28 PM

Sgt Byron J. Hendrix — Sun, 22 Jul 2018 19:28:41 -0400

Yes i would.

Response by LTC Ronald Stephens made Jul 24 at 2018 7:21 PM

LTC Ronald Stephens — Tue, 24 Jul 2018 19:21:01 -0400

My son made the decision all on his own. He chose the Air force. His AFQT score let him pick his Air Force Occupational Specialty. He enlisted as an E3 and I had the privilege of enlisting him. He did well in basic training and in technical school. His promotions to Senior airman and Staff Sergeant were both below the zone. The only advice I gave him before he shipped out was what I said in another post: "keep your eyes and ears open and your mouth shut. He made Technical Sergeant (E-6) in 8-1/2 years. Am I proud of him?" Hell yes I am!

Response by PO2 Louis Fattrusso made Jul 26 at 2018 10:16 PM

PO2 Louis Fattrusso — Thu, 26 Jul 2018 22:16:12 -0400

Not only would I, I did. My oldest son just retired after 20 years in the Army.

Response by PO1 Steven Siepp made Aug 4 at 2018 12:29 AM

PO1 Steven Siepp — Sat, 04 Aug 2018 00:29:37 -0400

I retired from the Navy in 2003, but while I was still active duty serving on a forward deployed ship out of LA Maddalena Italy my then teenage stepson presented me with an ultimatum that his grandmother had told him if he didn't like school( his Highschool was in London) he should quit and he could live with her back in the states. this is what he wanted to do or he would make life for me in the military a problem. I brought him back to Italy Thanksgiving and informed him at Christmas I would take him back to the states. Oh he wanted to stay and have fun in Italy so it was tough love time and I informed him if he was old enough to make the decision to leave school he was old enough to find work and a place to stay back in the states since he was not allowed to work in Italy.
Long story short, he got his GED, joined the Army, turned his life around and made a life for himself. He completed 8 yrs and wanted to start a family which is hard when you do two, 1yr unaccompanied tours. he was able to use the post 9-11GI bill to get his degree. I am very proud of him and his accomplishments so yes.

Response by SSG Harry Herres made Aug 4 at 2018 6:59 PM

SSG Harry Herres — Sat, 04 Aug 2018 18:59:14 -0400

My kids are too old but if any of my grandkid wish or think of joining I would stand right bye them the whole way.

Response by PO3 Pn3 Gipson made Aug 5 at 2018 6:24 AM

PO3 Pn3 Gipson — Sun, 05 Aug 2018 06:24:21 -0400

Absolutely not.

Response by PO1 Todd McMillin made Aug 6 at 2018 6:54 AM

PO1 Todd McMillin — Mon, 06 Aug 2018 06:54:35 -0400

Being in the Navy for 20 years and following family tradition and my spouse's family tradition; Sure I would suggest they serve if they want to. I won't FORCE them to. But I would suggest they go Air Force, Navy (Aviation), and Coast Guard (Aviation) before the other branches of military service.

While various events argue that like the Gulf of Tonkin and Remember the Maine; are why we're in the Middle East going to war for the British, Israelis, and Saudis AGAIN. I still believe that joining the military isn't false PATRIOTISM like we see with these clowns running around being "Prayer Warriors" and "Patriots" as they claim to be; instead it's about being a humble and service to the Nation as a way to show you're actually willing to honor and respect this NATION with all of it's people who aren't perfect or great; but have the potential to be yet fail to grasp it.

But I'm also of the similar vein of state service for all citizens born or naturalized here to serve this nation in some way to be an actual CITIZEN. Rather than some brainwashed bozo whom happened to be born here and thinks it makes them special (other than being a short bus rider). Robert Heinlein's Starship Troopers philosophy of "CITIZENSHIP thru SERVICE" is what should be required anymore in the USA. Now they don't have to join the military but do have to have some kind of service to the state to be allowed to vote and have better rights than others who don't.

Hell, you could be a disabled person in a wheelchair doing IT work for the VBA or FDA or other government agency; then granted CITIZENSHIP. We are becoming XENOPHOBIC for the wrong reasons and wasting resources on a bunch of pedophiles and criminals who are government employees like the TSA and ICE. Instead we should be concentrating on fighting real enemies both domestic and foreign rather than fighting internally over silly thinks like "Whom has the least amount of melanin?" Which is what effects a person's skin color and why we need to fight against real enemies of fascism and nationalism that exist.

Response by SGT Ronald Audas made Aug 11 at 2018 11:14 AM

SGT Ronald Audas — Sat, 11 Aug 2018 11:14:02 -0400

I have two boys. One never showed any interest in the military,but has great survival skills. My oldest joined the Army ,needing only 30 hours to graduate from college.Sick parents,you bet. Great decision on his part,you bet. Eventually becoming a CID agent. Married an Army girl. Got his Masters,and works with the military at Ft.Lewis in a civilian capacity.Had he let me guide his choice,things surely would have been different.Plus,I have 4 grandchildren I adore.All this ramble to say,you raise them to be independent.Guide but don't dictate.

Response by SP5 James Coles made Aug 11 at 2018 7:58 PM

SP5 James Coles — Sat, 11 Aug 2018 19:58:29 -0400

I did 21+ years Army and never pushed any of m boys to go into the service. My middle son decided to go Air Force and I couldn’t be more honored to be his Dad . He is still currently serving ( carrier ) Airman E-5 and he loves it

Response by Capt Al Parker made Aug 17 at 2018 4:27 PM

Capt Al Parker — Fri, 17 Aug 2018 16:27:36 -0400

NO, too much politics is running the Military. decision are being based on politics not Military discipline, IN all Grades/Ranks. The BUTT kissers will get promoted not the hard disciplined worker.

Response by LT Jason Godusky made Aug 24 at 2018 12:04 PM

LT Jason Godusky — Fri, 24 Aug 2018 12:04:26 -0400

Retired after 26 years in the Navy. Never encouraged my kids to join, but my son is now in the Army and my daughter is thinking of joining the Air Force. I could never be in today's military, but I am proud of them for serving. The way I look at it, don't ever complain or even make comments about being free, if you never served in one of the armed forces. To me, it makes you a hypocrite.

Response by CSM Duane Harb made Aug 31 at 2018 9:25 AM

CSM Duane Harb — Fri, 31 Aug 2018 09:25:45 -0400

I retired just before a lot of the social experiments started, with that said like most everyone already I let my children make up their own minds I offered my insights when asked! But otherwise let them go and find out on their own. Neither was happy with the policy changes but both were good soldiers during their enlistment and made me very proud I even served two deployments with one of them.

Response by MAJ John Douglas made Sep 2 at 2018 11:51 PM

MAJ John Douglas — Sun, 02 Sep 2018 23:51:42 -0400

No, I would not encourage my grandsons to go into the military. The senior leadership is more interested in political correctness than winning wars and they don't give a damn about anything beyond their careers. Not a chance.

Response by PO1 Gregg Mundy made Sep 3 at 2018 6:05 PM

PO1 Gregg Mundy — Mon, 03 Sep 2018 18:05:51 -0400

Knowing what you know now, would you encourage your children to serve in today's Military? Would I ENCOURAGE them, YES!! If my son or daughter did not want to go to college or was unsure what they wanted to do after high school I would show and explain to them the many benefits to a Military life and what you can get out of it, but the final say would be up to them.

Response by 1stSgt Jeff Blovat made Sep 4 at 2018 7:01 PM

1stSgt Jeff Blovat — Tue, 04 Sep 2018 19:01:13 -0400

Absolutely..... joining the military was the best professional choice I’ve made yet. It put me in to positions that I would not have achieved without it. Everyday I still carry on the tradition of what I learned in 25 years of service.

Response by SGT Rick Smith made Sep 16 at 2018 7:04 PM

SGT Rick Smith — Sun, 16 Sep 2018 19:04:59 -0400

yes

Response by SGT Rick Smith made Sep 16 at 2018 7:06 PM

SGT Rick Smith — Sun, 16 Sep 2018 19:06:26 -0400

Yes,if that's what they wanted to do

Response by SPC Elijah J. Henry, MBA made Sep 16 at 2018 7:10 PM

SPC Elijah J. Henry, MBA — Sun, 16 Sep 2018 19:10:49 -0400

No. Since joining, I have realized that everything I joined for I could get elsewhere, without the same levels of absurdity.

Response by SSG Michael Hathaway made Sep 17 at 2018 12:08 AM

SSG Michael Hathaway — Mon, 17 Sep 2018 00:08:36 -0400

I am torn on this question. Even being a late joiner at 34 years old, I have learned a lot in my 9 years in the army. I grew as a person and yes, I've had my share of pitfalls. It is my sincerest prayer that I shape and prepare my children for life and all it's ups and downs. I pray my children will have the strength and courage to do the right thing no matter the situation and have the resilience to combat negativity in all it's forms. That being said, I would support my kids decision if they chose to join, I would share my knowledge and experiences. I would offer my guidance. If they chose to join, I won't stop them, but I will let them know that I will be there to support them in any way I can, even if it's just a phone call half a world away telling them I am praying for their safe return.

Response by SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth made Sep 17 at 2018 5:21 AM

SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth — Mon, 17 Sep 2018 05:21:44 -0400

If my son wanted to join, I'd have no problem, but he's over the age limit now, if my grandson wants to join I will encourage him to.

Response by Capt James Emmitt made Sep 19 at 2018 5:04 PM

Capt James Emmitt — Wed, 19 Sep 2018 17:04:38 -0400

It’s their decision and right.

Response by Sgt Wayne Wood made Sep 19 at 2018 6:05 PM

Sgt Wayne Wood — Wed, 19 Sep 2018 18:05:57 -0400

I’m 3rd generation Marine. If i had a son, i’d support his decision either way.

But i’d like to see another PI graduate to carry on the family business.

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made Sep 19 at 2018 6:21 PM

MAJ Ken Landgren — Wed, 19 Sep 2018 18:21:14 -0400

Yes. There is honor in serving at the behest of the country, and there are some good benefits.

Response by Sgt James Shott made Sep 19 at 2018 6:21 PM

Sgt James Shott — Wed, 19 Sep 2018 18:21:25 -0400

I know the military has undergone some questionable changes in recent years, and I am hopeful that these errors will be/are being corrected.

Our sone serves isn the USAF, as did I, and while things are never perfect and sometimes far from perfect, I believe the military is good training for the rest of your life, whether or not one makes a career of it or re-ups a time or two.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 19 at 2018 10:43 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 19 Sep 2018 22:43:58 -0400

I disagree with the politically-motivated changes of the past few years. However, I think that participation in national defense is still a responsibility in a constitutional republic.

Response by PFC Brian Brody made Sep 22 at 2018 2:13 PM

PFC Brian Brody — Sat, 22 Sep 2018 14:13:16 -0400

I encourage anyone to join up

Response by Sgt Roy Hale made Sep 22 at 2018 11:47 PM

Sgt Roy Hale — Sat, 22 Sep 2018 23:47:18 -0400

I can only tell you the advice I gave my Son when he came for my advice. I live in California, My Sons first year of Community College is paid for, My Veterans benefits will take care of the rest. What I told him was to use those first two years to go to college and at least get his Associate Degree. At 20 a little more mature, if he wants to go in then, he has that behind him, but he also knows that if he wants to serve that those last two years can be on an ROTC program and go in as an Officer. Recruiters of course presented College paid for after serving. What I told him about that is that once you have served, you possibly get out with more responsibility or you enjoy that incoming paycheck, that going to school then would still be possible, just more difficult. He told the recruiter that he had only known him a few weeks, where he has known his father his entire lifetime, that he would and is taking my advice

Response by SSgt Steve Tyson made Sep 23 at 2018 9:26 PM

SSgt Steve Tyson — Sun, 23 Sep 2018 21:26:47 -0400

I would support their decision. I also support a mandatory 2 year enlistment befor the age of 28.

Response by SSG Jose M. Hernandezsanchez made Sep 25 at 2018 1:35 PM

SSG Jose M. Hernandezsanchez — Tue, 25 Sep 2018 13:35:24 -0400

I have never forced any of my girls to join the service. With that said, I have talked about it with them on occasions when the subject comes up. But, if any of them ever come to me to say she wants to join, I'll support the idea 100%.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 25 at 2018 3:10 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 25 Sep 2018 15:10:23 -0400

Hell no. My daughter can't ever serve - she only has one kidney being a transplant recipient. So there's no way she can anyway. Even if she could, if she asked me about it I would tell her the truth about what it's like to serve. Good and bad. But I would not push her into it. If she could and she decided to I wouldn't be able to stop her once she's an adult. But she can't so I don't have to worry about it.

Response by LtCol Andrew Horne made Sep 27 at 2018 7:03 AM

LtCol Andrew Horne — Thu, 27 Sep 2018 07:03:37 -0400

Yes

Response by SSG Raymond A. made Sep 27 at 2018 4:37 PM

SSG Raymond A. — Thu, 27 Sep 2018 16:37:59 -0400

If I had known how bad the Veterans Administration was in delivering earned benefits I would have never served. In fact, if the vets had delivered like the VA we would have been speaking German 90 years ago.

Response by CDR William Kempner made Sep 29 at 2018 12:07 AM

CDR William Kempner — Sat, 29 Sep 2018 00:07:41 -0400

I just can't recommend serving in the US Armed Forces of 2018. Knowing what I know, and all the social engineering, and the fact that I am still working long after my civilian contemporaries have retired, I would discourage my son from joining, and forbid him from making it a career( I will spend his inheritance if he does). America in the future will be about rich people and poor people, and you'll want to be rich, and that is very unllikely for most military prople.

Response by TSgt David Whitmore made Sep 29 at 2018 7:14 PM

TSgt David Whitmore — Sat, 29 Sep 2018 19:14:10 -0400

Today's military, and what seems to be expected of individuals is vastly different than the one I retired from 20 years ago. But then, the one I retired from was different than the one I enlisted in 20 years before that. Times change. Expectations and jobs change, evolve. This is to be expected.
I retired in 1998. When 9/11 occurred, three years later, I expected folks to behave the way I would have if I was still on active duty; but I was sadly disappointed. I interacted daily with folks in the Army, the Air Force, and the Navy. Within weeks of that event, the active duty folks on the four local military bases I frequented daily were whining and complaining how their duty schedule interfered with the important things in their lives.
I didn't understand this then, nor do I today.
I used to try to hire young adults into my business; I ran a small business doing computer maintenance and some basic programming. They would come to me with a piece of paper, having passed a test, informing all and sundry, that they knew how to make a computer work. I showed them where the parts were, and asked them to assemble a computer, verify the BIOS was set correctly, and install the operating system. NONE of them could do this in less than two days. And they wanted me to double-check every step, every process along the way. They lacked the confidence to be able to do it on their own. They were never taught how to succeed, nor that one had to be willing to try and fail. And, to maybe, ultimately succeed.
Sorry, I went off on a rant in a totally different direction.
The young people joining up today... I don't know anything about them.
I watch the ones in my grandchildren's schools, and I worry. Many of them either can't read or won't read, I can't tell. Most of them don't seem to be able to put down their phones and/or tablets. They believe that because they want to do something they have the right to do that thing.
We did stupid stuff, back when I was in school, acted out in inappropriate ways; were bullied and bullied in return. We gave each other bloody lips and/or noses. stuffed each other in lockers. But these kids are different.
They haven't been taught to respect themselves let alone anyone else. They don't understand Patriotism, Honor, Duty, Integrity, or any of the other fine personality traits we hope our military members have ingrained in them.
I watch young adults insisting that their feelings about an issue make that issue relevant to everyone; and that we must respect them for those feelings. I watch young adults proclaim that the things that are established scientific and proven medical facts be denied and declared false because those facts go against what they feel about those things.

I have hope, rather than expectations, for our future military.

I'm stopping here. Maybe somebody can cheer me up. Today is a day of pain for me and maybe that's why I am actually saying this to another person, instead of keeping it to myself.

Have yourselves a great day!

Response by SP5 Bob Rudolph made Oct 1 at 2018 9:08 AM

SP5 Bob Rudolph — Mon, 01 Oct 2018 09:08:28 -0400

The biggest mistake I made as a father may have been not encouraging my boys to join the military. I received my draft notice Christmas eve day 1966. I served the bare minimum, I did not consider myself a military man. Over the years I have come to believe that my 2 years in the United States Army were far more influential in my successful business career than my college education. My boys came out fine, no thanks to their teachers or school administrators.

Response by CDR Mike Kovack made Oct 1 at 2018 11:27 AM

CDR Mike Kovack — Mon, 01 Oct 2018 11:27:45 -0400

I always loved this quote from John Adams......;)
I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy. My sons ought to study mathematics and philosophy, geography, natural history, naval architecture, navigation, commerce, and agriculture, in order to give their children a right to study painting, poetry, music, architecture, statuary, tapestry, and porcelain.

Response by SrA Chad Cole made Oct 3 at 2018 6:53 PM

SrA Chad Cole — Wed, 03 Oct 2018 18:53:20 -0400

Response by PO1 Robert George made Oct 5 at 2018 1:12 AM

PO1 Robert George — Fri, 05 Oct 2018 01:12:05 -0400

did not and will not. answered their questions and left it at that. made sure they understood it's not like in the movies. it's both far better and far worse. their life, their choice. having said that, i would be more inclined to discourage. politicians tend to follow whichever way the wind blows and aren't good at taking the heat when body bags start coming home(remember Viet Nam?) If the pols had half as much intestinal fortitude as our military, i'd be more willing to encourage.

Response by MGySgt Rick Tyrrell made Oct 6 at 2018 8:30 PM

MGySgt Rick Tyrrell — Sat, 06 Oct 2018 20:30:03 -0400

Not only my own kids but all kids. By serving in the military would provide them with a structured environment and provide them a skill, add a degree now you have a well balanced individual going into society. What a thought. By the way my daughter is a Captain in the Air Force!

Response by 1SG Robert Rush made Oct 8 at 2018 1:31 PM

1SG Robert Rush — Mon, 08 Oct 2018 13:31:10 -0400

Yes, I wish I was younger, I would still be in.

Response by SGT Craig Northacker made Oct 8 at 2018 8:05 PM

SGT Craig Northacker — Mon, 08 Oct 2018 20:05:41 -0400

I was in during and after Vietnam. I am proud of what we did when I was in, despite the riffing of combat experienced officers and NCO's. What I am disgusted by is the horrendous treatment by the VBA with their aberrant rating system. The government continuously fails our families when our exposures to NBC toxins and contamination are repeatedly denied, including undisclosed testing, and when our families have medical issues the VBA again does the deny, deny, deny thing. So while I am proud of what I did - I, and my family, have paid a terrible price. I do not wish that on my children. I have a lot of issues because of Agent Orange - the VHA does their best, but the VBA is absolutely unforgiving and horrendous. As Country Joe sang - they killed me during Vietnam, but they forgot to tell me. In SW Asia medical records were deliberately lost to deprive our men and women the ability to file claims - a longtime trick committed by the collusion of the VBA and the DOD. So - do I want them in the military? Absolutely and unequivocally NO!

Response by SPC Brian Stephens made Oct 12 at 2018 2:34 PM

SPC Brian Stephens — Fri, 12 Oct 2018 14:34:28 -0400

I would.

Response by CPO Michael Hatten made Oct 13 at 2018 11:05 AM

CPO Michael Hatten — Sat, 13 Oct 2018 11:05:04 -0400

What I know is that today's military is different than my military and that my military was different than my father's. I could neither recommend nor oppose a child's choice to join up. I would just make sure he or she was thinking things through and that they knew that it was what they wanted.

I don't judge why people join. If it's a blast of patriotism, OK; if it's just for a job, OK; if it's for the training and benefits, OK. i joined up mainly because I didn't want to get drafted into a war I didn't support and ended up doing my 20. People in their 20's are going through a lot of changes and maturing so it's not that important why they went to see the recruiter. What matters is what they do after they report.

Response by MSG Danny Mathers made Oct 14 at 2018 3:12 PM

MSG Danny Mathers — Sun, 14 Oct 2018 15:12:41 -0400

Hell no! I already told my son to go into IT instead of the military because of the social experimentation and a host of other issues such as LBGTQ and PC. The army needs to go back and be warriors; No place for WACCOS!

Response by SPC Stephen Walsh made Oct 15 at 2018 11:18 PM

SPC Stephen Walsh — Mon, 15 Oct 2018 23:18:21 -0400

I would not stop them. But unless we are invaded or face a WWW W 3 situation. No I would not.

Response by SPC Estephen Henik made Oct 17 at 2018 9:23 AM

SPC Estephen Henik — Wed, 17 Oct 2018 09:23:53 -0400

In a military minute.

Response by SPC Jasen E. made Oct 19 at 2018 6:58 PM

SPC Jasen E. — Fri, 19 Oct 2018 18:58:16 -0400

I do not have children, but have a clear plan on the day I do. I would never encourage my child to join the military, but I will encourage them to check out for themselves what the armed forces can do for them and to not simply take some outsiders point of view for themselves. I want them to see first hand what the military has to offer so my kids can then decide if there is something they can give to the military. I'd be immeasurably proud if they joined any branch of the armed forces but also just as proud if they became a true, hard working civilian giving back to their community their own way.

Response by SPC Steven Depuy made Oct 22 at 2018 8:16 AM

SPC Steven Depuy — Mon, 22 Oct 2018 08:16:27 -0400

Tough issue. I am past that point. My father told me if I wanted to serve, join the Coast Guard. Being a stupid young man, I joined the Army. As my son grew up, I did expose him to meeting a lot of military people. We went to reunions of WWII veterans and he got to meet a lot of really great people. One day he told me he wanted to join the military, I told him if you want to join the military, join the Coast Guard or Air Force, don't join the Army. Of course being a strong willed young man, he joined the Army. I supported him 100%, spent a lot of restless nights when he had to do a tour in Iraq. I got him back, he did survived 5 IED hits. His MOS, Fister. What did he actually do, patrol between FOB/COB Kalsu and Baghdad 6 nights a week. I am proud of him, proud he served. Just not the kind of thing as a parent you want to go through. Social Media is great, and you could just watch him on Facebook talk with his friends each day and know he was OK. Then something happens, and they shut down their internet access, and you get to wait that 1-3 days until you see they are OK. Its a real roller coaster ride.

Response by CPT Kevin Handy made Oct 23 at 2018 1:16 AM

CPT Kevin Handy — Tue, 23 Oct 2018 01:16:19 -0400

Get some skin in the game! Yes, I have encouraged my young adults to join the military. I joined at 17 and retired with 23 years of service. No regrets! Where else can a young adult go and learn a skill, get money for college, earn Veteran's preference, and serve our country? A very small percentage of young adults are even qualified to join, so if you're able, we need you!!

Response by CPT Jim Kotva made Nov 4 at 2018 10:14 AM

CPT Jim Kotva — Sun, 04 Nov 2018 10:14:14 -0500

The military has totally changed from when I first joined 40 years ago some good like zero tolerance on sexual harassment which I did see, and a lot of bad changes one DUI you are gone. My first C.O. every once in a while would buy a half barrel and we would BBQ on a Friday afternoon a career ender today. Now that they went to this blended retirement system I do not see a carrot out there for a lot to stay especially having to work 12 - 16 hour days 6-7 days a week.

Response by SGT Frank Pritchett made Nov 4 at 2018 11:46 AM

SGT Frank Pritchett — Sun, 04 Nov 2018 11:46:15 -0500

I would encourage every young adult to do at least 4 years in the Military because of the discipline and responsibility that they will learn and knowing that the Military is not for everyone. My son is currently in the Marines and I have enjoyed watching him grow into a responsible young adult but if he decides to re-enlist that is his is decision. Remember you can spot anyone among a large crowd who has served in the Military by the way they carry themselves. the Military is a great way to learn about life and the real world.

Response by SPC Jesse Davis made Nov 13 at 2018 4:13 PM

SPC Jesse Davis — Tue, 13 Nov 2018 16:13:21 -0500

A different MOS for certain, but I wouldn't deny them.

Response by SFC Larry Jones made Nov 18 at 2018 12:52 AM

SFC Larry Jones — Sun, 18 Nov 2018 00:52:34 -0500

I was an active recruiter from 1984 to 1989 and then for another brief period in 1990. Otherwise, for the latter part of my career, I was assigned to the administrative side of USAREC. Recruiting quality was at its apex at that time. Prior to my being a recruiter, I was a chaplain's assistant. I could talk to people of any denomination with equal ease. I was also free to express my beliefs. From what I understand, that is no longer true, With that being said, I have to answer your question in the negative.

Response by SSgt Max Gonzales made Nov 18 at 2018 9:51 AM

SSgt Max Gonzales — Sun, 18 Nov 2018 09:51:39 -0500

My grandson wants to follow in my footsteps. I for one am of the opinion that since he's only 7, I have ample time to continue to mold and nurture him. When he's of age, to enlist,it will be his choice. My biggest concern is, will we be in another war,or will peace finally be ours. As I see it we have already lost too many people in the quest for freedom,for ourselves and our allies. I served in a war, don't want to see my grandson or anyone elses children go through what we went through.

Response by SGT(P) Shadow Spawne made Nov 19 at 2018 5:18 PM

SGT(P) Shadow Spawne — Mon, 19 Nov 2018 17:18:19 -0500

As proud as I am of my military service, I would not encourage my children or grand hildren to enter service. The environment in the Army has changed for the worse since I joined up in 1988 through 2013. If one happens to be a white male then your options for promotions or positions is dramatically decreased. The racism openly exhibited against whites in our military is out of control. I have witnessed an unqualified and unskilled soldier promoted and put into a position that was dangerous to others. Why did this happen? Because it was stated that “ we need another brother (black man) in power”. Those were the exact words that rolled off a racist commanders tongue. Can this be fixed? I doubt it as it has taken hold and shows no signs of being rectified.

Response by SPC Steve ChenRobbins made Nov 19 at 2018 6:54 PM

SPC Steve ChenRobbins — Mon, 19 Nov 2018 18:54:37 -0500

I would encourage them, which is not the same as pressuring them. It still makes sense, and I served because I believed it was my duty. I was a field medic because that's the way I am put together. There are so many opportunities and so many paths to go within the military, I wouldn't hesitate.

Response by SSG Lee Kujawa made Nov 21 at 2018 2:04 PM

SSG Lee Kujawa — Wed, 21 Nov 2018 14:04:21 -0500

Yes, but only as an officer.

Response by CPL Christopher Thomas made Dec 6 at 2018 10:59 AM

CPL Christopher Thomas — Thu, 06 Dec 2018 10:59:13 -0500

I would if the military moved away from stress cards and moved back to combat training.

Response by SGT William Foster made Dec 13 at 2018 1:24 PM

SGT William Foster — Thu, 13 Dec 2018 13:24:53 -0500

Yes because it is my family legacy been fighting since the civil but if they dont then they dont but he/she is still my child and I will support always support them

Response by LCpl Stanley Gallant made Jul 28 at 2019 8:57 PM

LCpl Stanley Gallant — Sun, 28 Jul 2019 20:57:49 -0400

Yes I would , but I would tell my children to become a officer in the military.

Response by MSG James Varenhorst made Oct 21 at 2019 12:39 PM

MSG James Varenhorst — Mon, 21 Oct 2019 12:39:03 -0400

Two of my three children are in the U.S. Army! My daughter has been in for over 11yrs and my youngest son is in Basic at Fort Benning, so yes I support and think it is still the most honorable profession. The changes that have made in the last 10yrs or so I don't really care for, but I'm Retired and do not have to deal with on the daily basis. I'm glad that I am Retired and don't have to deal with some of these issues!

Response by Cpl Anthony Paton made May 8 at 2020 11:44 AM

Cpl Anthony Paton — Fri, 08 May 2020 11:44:41 -0400

Yes I would , I think every kid today should join the Military. Would tech them respect and dignity. 10 year Marine her

Response by MSG James Varenhorst made Oct 22 at 2020 6:53 AM

MSG James Varenhorst — Thu, 22 Oct 2020 06:53:58 -0400

Two out of my three children are in and proud of them both for wanting to serve!

Response by SFC Kurt Brunken made Mar 2 at 2021 8:35 AM

SFC Kurt Brunken — Tue, 02 Mar 2021 08:35:48 -0500

Yes, but that line is getting closer and closer to a No. DA/DT and Gay rights issues will not effect most units, however, the nonsense of treating ourselves as our own enemy will drive morale down HARD. See SECDEF's recent comments.

Response by LTC Michael Hrycak made Jul 19 at 2021 5:44 PM

LTC Michael Hrycak — Mon, 19 Jul 2021 17:44:04 -0400

I encourage both my sons to support the United States of America, who welcomed their parents, and their grandparents, to a country to be proud of, truly the land of the free and the home of the brave. My older son is on a second lieutenant, finishing his Ordnance Basic Leadership Officer Course, having been commissioned out of University of California-Irvine Army ROTC a year ago. I am very proud of him, and I encouraged him because he showed an interest and aptitude. Freedom isn't free, it never was, and it never will be.

Response by LCDR Glenn Adwell made Aug 1 at 2021 11:49 PM

LCDR Glenn Adwell — Sun, 01 Aug 2021 23:49:54 -0400

My son was an Army infantry sergeant in Afghanistan. My daughter is currently a Army Captain in her first command tour. My son-in-law is an Air National Guard E-7 crash crewman and civilian firefighter. They have all benefited greatly from their service. Neither of my grandsons will be eligible because of medical reasons.

The military is a great way of life and if we can just rid ourselves of this "woke" BS pushed by spineless political generals and admirals, it will remain so.