Is the Airborne School no longer doing the APFT/ACFT, and is only doing the Flexed Arm Hang?

SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 11 Jan 2022 20:22:07 -0500

Last I heard Airborne School is no longer doing APFT/ACFT only the Flexed Arm Hang.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 11 at 2022 8:23 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 11 Jan 2022 20:23:28 -0500

Airborne is still doing APFT until ACFT implementation in April.

Response by SFC Ralph E Kelley made Jan 11 at 2022 10:39 PM

SFC Ralph E Kelley — Tue, 11 Jan 2022 22:39:41 -0500

I've heard that type of statement several times about a couple of different schools. - be aware the requirements for a school are set by the school - not 'normal' channels of the US Army.
Recently I heard someone complain that the 'grades' required by the Scout Leader Course at Fort Benning required that "Students must pass the classroom Operations Order and their field evaluation assessments to graduate." He felt that the cadre should not assess him because he wasn't trained yet, so they couldn't grade him on the knowledge he didn't have. He had failed the course.
I told him he could always go back if his command signed off on it - Just like Airborne, Ranger, Sapper, Pathfinder and all the other high speed course that were above and beyond just average MOS duties.
Some people don't get it that the specialty courses are above the everyday hump.

Response by MAJ Byron Oyler made Jan 12 at 2022 12:34 AM

MAJ Byron Oyler — Wed, 12 Jan 2022 00:34:14 -0500

No matter what you hear I promise all the airborne standards of times past to finish the school are still in play. What ever fitness test they may do, if you are ready for airborne then the Army wide standard should be easy.

Response by SSG Ralph Watkins made Jan 12 at 2022 11:45 AM

SSG Ralph Watkins — Wed, 12 Jan 2022 11:45:57 -0500

About 1980 is when the 5 event PT test was replaced by the APFT. Before that we had the "bent arm hang". Sounds identical to the flexed one. It was some incredibly easy time to achieve but yet many females still failed it. A good number of males too. It was one of the reasons the Army went to the APFT & eliminated it. They wanted more women in the Army & back then, they weren't in combat arms roles. So if the infantry or airborne courses require this now, it's to wean out the weaker ones. Male or female. If you think about being airborne, you certainly need to be good at a flexed arm hang.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 12 at 2022 11:55 AM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 12 Jan 2022 11:55:35 -0500

I'm at Fort Riley and I heard this as well just this week from retention. Interesting

Response by MAJ Anne McGee made Jan 18 at 2022 8:52 AM

MAJ Anne McGee — Tue, 18 Jan 2022 08:52:04 -0500

The qualifications that get you there may not be the qualifications that keep you there. My company started with over 800 and over 400 were cut taking the PT test. Be physicslly and mentally prepared for any situation. Their job is to weed out weakness and your job is to graduate. When everybody does their job we have a stronger military. Good luck!

Response by Lola Karpa made Oct 11 at 2022 1:43 PM

Lola Karpa — Tue, 11 Oct 2022 13:43:27 -0400

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Response by Marc Kucev made Dec 5 at 2022 10:15 AM

Marc Kucev — Mon, 05 Dec 2022 10:15:14 -0500

Airborne is still doing APFT until ACFT implementation in April. https://goodmenproject.com/education-2/affordable-essay-writing-services/

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