Lean Six Sigma Points for Promotion

2014-09-07T17:36:58-04:00

I have just completed my Lean Six Sigma training and was curious as to how to submit them onto my ERB and how many points I would receive for promotion. I am also wondering where on the ERB catagories does it fall. The actual certificate has no hours stated on them... Help please as I have heard so many different senarios. (Only recently finished my green belt)

Response by SGM Matthew Quick made Sep 7 at 2014 5:55 PM

2014-09-07T17:55:48-04:00

Have you talked to your S-1?

Response by TSgt Joshua Copeland made Sep 7 at 2014 7:33 PM

2014-09-07T19:33:16-04:00

The Army gives points for that? Big Blue just tells us to take the class and it MIGHT show up in your Annual Enlisted Performance Report.

Response by SSG Robert Burns made Sep 7 at 2014 7:41 PM

2014-09-07T19:41:59-04:00

There are 4 different levels of LSS. Yellow, Green, Black and Master Black Belt. What training have you completed? They are all extremely different in training hours.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 8 at 2014 7:08 AM

2014-09-08T07:08:12-04:00

Well considering the fact that certain people are emailing the answers to the test around like they did with SSD and correspondence courses I don't think they should be worth squat.

Response by SGM Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 8 at 2014 9:46 PM

2014-09-08T21:46:50-04:00

I think that this is great opportunity for Soldiers, but as with the great variety of colleges and their accreditations, Lean Six Sigma has off shoots that claim to be the same but have not been regulated. If hours are the requirement per promotion points then I suggest you contact the company you received the training from and have them provide you a memorandum with the hours per each module.

Response by SGM Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 8 at 2014 9:49 PM

2014-09-08T21:49:25-04:00

Just a note for those retiring or separating this SM is on the right track attaining training that will assist them in their career now and is relevant to employers outside the Army.

Response by SGT(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 28 at 2014 5:53 PM

2014-11-28T17:53:18-05:00

Hey SGT Griffin, did you ever figure out the answer to your question and if it worked out or not?

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 29 at 2014 1:19 PM

2014-11-29T13:19:02-05:00

To all,

Lean Six Sigma training would not count as promotion points unless:

(a) the training was completed in Skillport, or
(b) it was completed as part of a college course.

The only way for things to go on your ERB are:

(1) College classes (under Civilian Education)
(2) Technical Cert (if they fall under the technical certification matrix
(3) Physical (resident) course in military education.

No Lean Six Sigma courses are covered under military education.
The only Lean Six Sigma courses covered as a technical cert are Green and Black Belt, if you taken under ASQ.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 14 at 2015 12:51 PM

2015-01-14T12:51:48-05:00

Congrats on your accomplishment! I am looking at getting that certification too.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 30 at 2015 11:12 AM

2015-01-30T11:12:49-05:00

I have Lean Six Sigma Green and Black Belt Was told today EVEN though they were taken through an accredited Technical institute that they are not WORTH CRAP. 5 months these have been on my ERB and now that I'm top of my promotion list now my BN wants to remove them. over 700 Dollars out of my pocket and I wont be getting DIDDLY Squat but yet they want me to start a project for the BN. NO THANK YOU.

Response by Col Kyle Taylor made Jan 30 at 2015 11:19 AM

2015-01-30T11:19:03-05:00

Though I can't answer your question, what I can do is say congratulations. There are so many in the military that could care less about CPI training but over my 25+ years in the service I have found it very useful in improving methods and practices. Stay involved and enjoy the successes. Best of luck to you as you continue your journey.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 3 at 2015 4:12 AM

2015-03-03T04:12:26-05:00

If this was online training, it won't count towards promotion. But you can find a list of resident courses through the HRC page. Just go to the "promotions" tab and you'll a few links on the right, one being the link to resident courses. Of you do have some that were completed in a classroom environment, then take the certificate to your S1, they will upload it to your file.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 22 at 2015 3:35 AM

2015-03-22T03:35:45-04:00

Side bar question--did you complete the training to add capacity to your organization or to attain promotion points? What LSS project has your organization assigned you or have you developed? I've got three LSS projects being worked in my organization and I constantly question the relevance, as they don't actually contribute to building any capacity. Arg!

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 25 at 2015 2:29 PM

2015-03-25T14:29:32-04:00

SGT(P) Private RallyPoint Member, thank you for posting this discussion. I went through the responses looking for consensus and then found out that you were not recognized on your ERB for having completed this. I think it is insane that the Army won't accept distance learning LSS certification. Congratulations on your accomplishment, and sorry that the Army doesn't recognize it.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 25 at 2015 2:52 PM

2015-03-25T14:52:58-04:00

Sgt. I was curious on this course which site did you use for training I know it's in ATRRS and I believe ALMS which one did you use for credit?

Response by CPL Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 25 at 2015 3:52 PM

2015-06-25T15:52:51-04:00

new to this....anyone on here on fort campbell?
ive been trying to get into the black belt course but the only class close is fort knox.
is there anyone that is a black or master black belt that can be a mentor and give me ideas for a project on fort campbell?....ive been talking to the poc on the ako web page but they keep giving me the same info...have to wait till july for the next years classes....if there is any info that someone can give me...that would be great...thanks for your support and time

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Response by SSG(P) Vanessa Walters made Aug 20 at 2015 2:36 PM

2015-08-20T14:36:40-04:00

Milper Message Number
08-092

Proponent
AHRC-OPL

Title
AWARDING OF ARMY LEAN SIX SIGMA ADDITIONAL SKILL IDENTIFIERS

...Issued: [01 Apr 08]...

A. DA PAM 611-21, Military Occupation Classification and Structure.

B. Army Lean Six Sigma Deployment Guidebook, Version 3.0, 1 February 2008.

1. Purpose. The intent of this message is to clarify the requirements and procedures for requesting and awarding Army Lean Six Sigma Additional Skill Identifiers.

2. General. Effective 1 June 2006, the Army approved the awarding of Additional Skill Identifiers 1X (Green Belt in Lean Six Sigma), 1Y (Black Belt in Lean Six Sigma), and 1Z (Master Black Belt in Lean Six Sigma). The proponent for awarding these identifiers is the Deputy Under Secretary of the Army for Business Transformation (DUSA-BT) Procedural guidance for requesting these additional skill identifiers is contained in the references above.

3. Certification Requirements: The certification requirements for each additional skill identifier are listed below. Note that completion of the LSS course alone does not qualify an individual for the ASI.

A. Green Belt Certification Criteria (ASI 1X):

(1) Complete Army approved LSS GB Program of Instruction or provide proof of completion of formal LSS GB Training from another accepted source

(2) Pass Army LSS GB exam with a minimum score of 70%

(3) Complete one LSS GB level DMAIC project, or lead three LSS Rapid Improvement Events, or lead sub-tasks of a LSS BB level DMAIC project

B. Black Belt Certification Criteria (ASI 1Y):

(1) Complete Army approved LSS BB Program of Instruction or provide proof of completion of formal LSS BB training from another accepted source

(2) Pass Army LSS BB exam with a minimum score of 70%

(3) Complete one LSS BB Level DMAIC project that is documented in Power Steering

C. Master Black Belt Certification Criteria (ASI 1Z):

(1) Be a certified Army Black Belt.

(2) Lead two Black Belt DMAIC projects (including the one used for BB certification) through a successful Control Tollgate with appropriate documentation in Power Steering

(3) Complete Army approved Master Black Belt Program of Instruction

(4) Pass Army LSS MBB exam with a minimum score of 70%

(5) Coach at least two Army Black Belt DMAIC Projects through a successful Control Tollgate and be identified as project mentor in PowerSteering

(6) Successfully teach all modules of the Army Black Belt course

(7) Co-facilitate a Project Identification Selection Workshop (PISW) with a certified MBB.

4. Grandfathering Option: There may be circumstances when Army personnel have completed Green Belt or Black Belt training from sources other than the US Army's Program of Instruction. Army personnel who completed Green Belt or Black Belt training from a source other than the approved Army curriculum can apply for course completion credit under the grandfathering policy. Candidates requesting course completion credit under the grandfathering policy must meet the same certification guidelines as regular candidates. This includes providing documentation of successful completion of formal training, passing the Army Belt Final Exam, and completing a project as described in paragraphs 4a and 4b above. Grandfathering is not permitted for Master Black Belts.

5. Certification and Documentation Process: Upon completing all requirements for the specified belt level, the deployment director will forward the service member's information to the Deputy Under Secretary of the Army for Business Transformation (DUSA-BT) via email at [login to see] .mil.

Requests will be verified and approved by the DUSA-BT and the Military Deputy, Assistant Secretary of the Army for Acquisition, Logistics and Technology. Copies of the certification documentation (memorandum and certificate) are forwarded to the individual through the originating organization. DUSA-BT will forward request for ASI award to U.S. Army Human Resources Command (AHRC-OPL) for updating commissioned officer and warrant officer records. Enlisted personnel records are updated regularly through a data feed from ATRRS to TAPDB. Only DUSA-BT and U.S. Army HRC are authorized to enter LSS course completion in ATRRS and award the ASI in TAPDB. These actions are not authorized at the installation level and below.

6. POC: OSA-OBT Army Lean Six Sigma Program Management Office,
Mr. Lee Rivas at [login to see] , email [login to see] , or
Mr. Stephen Davies at [login to see] , email [login to see] .

Response by SGT(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 19 at 2016 5:26 AM

2016-07-19T05:26:33-04:00

I have completed my Six Sigma Black, Master Black, Green and Yellow belt Certifications through ASQ. Unfortunately the matrix is only accredited for Black and Green Belt so I wasted my money. Go to this website and complete the exam. http://www.sixsigma-institute.org/ Once You complete this go to your S1 and have them input this under "Technical Certification" in eMILPO. The Code for Black Belt is CSSBB. The Code for Green Belt is CSSB. Do NOT use ACO unless you physically attended the residential course which is 4 credit points per 40hrs. I hope this helps:-)

NOTE: You will not get credit for military education if you completed the certification so don't try to give yourself double credit. Audits are happening everyday, don't be that soldier caught with fraudulent points.

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Response by MAJ Raúl Rovira made Jul 28 at 2016 1:20 AM

2016-07-28T01:20:37-04:00

Code: 1X
Title: Green Belt (GB) in Lean Six Sigma (LSS)
Proponent: Office of the Secretary of the Army, Office of Business Transformation (OSA-OBT)
a. Description of positions. There are no positions identified for ASI 1X.
b. Qualifications. Must successfully complete a prescribed Green Belt Lean Six Sigma Course conducted under the auspices of the Office of the Secretary of the Army, Office of Business Transformation. Soldiers classified in LSS Green Belt, ASI 1X, must continue to demonstrate professional excellence and good judgment and exhibit outstanding ability in support of a LSS project and under the supervision of a Lean Six Sigma Black Belt. The Soldier must be able to analyze and solve quality problems and must be involved in quality improvement projects. A Lean Six Sigma Green Belt is someone with at least three (3) years of work experience who demonstrates his or her knowledge of traditional Lean Six Sigma (DMAIC) methodology and tools augmented with critical enablers such as team leadership, project management and software tools. The Green Belt Soldier supports Black Belt LSS projects and/or leads projects part-time in their mission area of responsibility.
c. Certification requirements.
(1) Demonstrate comprehension of Green Belt tools and techniques.
(2) Successfully:
(a) Lead a GB Level DMAIC Project to completion or;
(b) Complete three (3) Rapid Improvement Events or;
(c) Lead five (5) sub tasks (one (1) in each DMAIC phase) of a BB level DMAIC project, which is taken to completion.
(3) Complete either of the US Army training courses:
(a) GB-1 Course or;
(b) GB-EQUIVALENCY Course
d. Request for certification. Request for certification will be forwarded to: Department of the Army, Office of the Secretary of the Army, Office of Business Transportation, LSS PMO, 2521 S. Clark St, suite 1010, 10th floor, Arlington, VA 22202.e. Restrictions. For identification of personnel only. Used with any officer AOC.