Loyalty starts at home.

1LT Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 30 Nov 2014 16:09:49 -0500

A soldier that is not loyal to his/her partner can not be loyal to his/her buddies, unit, the Army and His country.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 30 at 2014 4:38 PM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 30 Nov 2014 16:38:56 -0500

I disagree. One can be loyal to their country and still cheat on a spouse. One can be loyal to their unit and still end up breaking up with a partner.

With a 50% divorce rate, we have a very unloyal country.

Response by MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca made Nov 30 at 2014 4:50 PM

MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca — Sun, 30 Nov 2014 16:50:34 -0500

Not necessarily. Look at organized crime figures through history, loyal to "la familia" and "la cosa nostra", but not necessarily to their spouse. IMHO, everyone chooses their loyalties ad hoc, there is no order of precedence that is followed.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 12 at 2014 1:54 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 12 Dec 2014 13:54:20 -0500

1LT Private RallyPoint Member If that philosophy was true, we would have an Army of 50,000 Soldiers maybe out of a million perhaps

Response by 1LT Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 12 at 2014 2:36 PM

1LT Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 12 Dec 2014 14:36:50 -0500

We do not choose our birth family, but we do choose our life partner( husband and wife). And it is completely nonsense to marry somebody you are not intending to be loyal or honest to. Tribulations and trials may plague a marriage, but all these are meant to build endurance, forbearance and unconditional love in us. We all have our shortcomings. But once disloyalty and dishonesty have started in the household, it becomes a pattern that can settle in our job, relationship with others and many other things.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 12 at 2014 2:37 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 12 Dec 2014 14:37:11 -0500

1LT Private RallyPoint Member,

That isn't true. It depends on one's values and how much importance one places on each relationship. Personally speaking, I know that I only have one country and one unit (at any given time) and will always be loyal to them. As for partners? Meh... a guy can always be replaced and there are plenty of fish in the sea. This is not so with the Army.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 12 at 2014 3:26 PM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 12 Dec 2014 15:26:29 -0500

While we disagree on this, I am curious why you would vote me down, and not all the others that also disagreed with you. That is why I voted you down

Response by SGT(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 12 at 2014 10:11 PM

SGT(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 12 Dec 2014 22:11:10 -0500

There is no truth in that statement. I know several people that have been I loyal to a spouse, but I would trust them with my life. I think it all depends on the circumstances that affect the person.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 4 at 2015 3:33 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 04 Mar 2015 15:33:37 -0500

I disagree...loyalty to units and partners is very different...I do feel there is a negative view on an individual that can't keep their family together... Which I feel is not correctly fielded. I heard this view second hand when my 1st NCO was going through a divorce... The mentality that was stated was if he could not keep his family to get her how could he lead his troops. I feel that is apples and oranges... The same degree of accountability that is held to soldiers and the honesty should be brought into a relationship....if you are unhappy get a divorce...if you complain and don't get a divorce then shut up and stop whining...do better. Generally speaking of course... I am not am counselor...lol