Maybe Movies portray the wrong images? (Jarhead 2)

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 02 Oct 2014 13:04:28 -0400

So im watching Jarhead 2 in hopes its not like all other sequels to a great initial movie by ruining the first with a watered down version. but that's not the disturbing part...

the disturbing part is im only 5 minutes into the movie after the initial firefight and they are having a luau and yes as any other military movie you see all kinds of misplacement of patches and all kinds of nerve wrenching things....but at the luau they have Marines music blaring which isn't a problem and cheering which isn't a problem my issue came when I saw the men (a group of 4) dancing all provocatively on a female while she is sitting down this struck me as disturbing and I thought....maybe this is our issue movies that doesn't portray the actual military experience and we get pervs or individuals who partake in these types of things come in thinking this is what we do. when its not at all what is done and im sure that's in all branches across the board. I feel its telling these individuals we grind on our women who serve with us, or makes it ok to have SHARP incidents i don't know it just doesn't sit well with me. maybe its wrong timing or i have no clue. am i being too sensitive? did i look too in depth of it? or am i critiquing it too much?

thoughts please?.....

Response by CW5 Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 2 at 2014 8:07 PM

CW5 Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 02 Oct 2014 20:07:08 -0400

SSG Private RallyPoint Member, you probably have a point. Those movies are not very accurate. And they may influence a small number of people who join up, but I don't think that's "the problem." I believe the problem is much deeper and widespread (society at large, with or without inaccurate movies).

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 4 at 2015 6:11 AM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 04 Jan 2015 06:11:19 -0500

I wanted to punch myself in the face within the first 5 minutes of this film. I couldn't even finish it!

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 26 at 2016 4:05 PM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 26 Dec 2016 16:05:29 -0500

History vs Hollywood and it's often wrong

Response by SFC Pete Kain made Dec 26 at 2016 4:40 PM

SFC Pete Kain — Mon, 26 Dec 2016 16:40:08 -0500

Like Down Periscope. Stripes, 1941, Apocalypse Now etc.
It's called entertainment for a reason.

Response by SSG Robert Webster made Dec 26 at 2016 4:54 PM

SSG Robert Webster — Mon, 26 Dec 2016 16:54:25 -0500

I think that I am going to PO a number of people with my answer.
SSG Private RallyPoint Member, Why does that particular scene bother you so much? That scene alone is mild compared to some of the self-inflicted actions by some of the current and past women in the US Military have done, filmed, and distributed.
What is telling to me is that you concentrated your comment about the actions of the males and the 'lone' female in that scene, and you made not nary a single comment about the supposed 'illegal' action of drinking alcoholic beverages by an O-5 (LTC) (who definitely knows better) and an E-4 (CPL (NCO)) in a combat zone / combat area (at least they (the film makers) made a point of the CPL asking about the action). If you are going to decry what may or may not be an illegal act, when there is definitely illegal action right in front of our face, you/we can not have it both ways.

CW5 Private RallyPoint Member and LTC Private RallyPoint Member, I would normally agree that Hollywood's version and real life do not usually meet somewhere in the middle, but tell me what is not accurate about the scene that SSG Jones is asking about, or the one that I am referencing? And before you tell me that I am wrong and that the US Military has changed in that regard from many years ago, are you going to tell me that I have not seen it with my own eyes or that supposed adults that should know better have not publicly released photographs or filmed evidence to the contrary?

Response by SFC George Smith made Dec 26 at 2016 6:48 PM

SFC George Smith — Mon, 26 Dec 2016 18:48:18 -0500

interesting... its on the Net Flix waiting list...

Response by Sgt Dale Briggs made Dec 29 at 2016 7:58 PM

Sgt Dale Briggs — Thu, 29 Dec 2016 19:58:18 -0500

Sorry I just can't watch that schlocky shit Hollywood pumps out, it insults anyone's and everyone intelligence.

Response by COL Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 30 at 2016 12:00 PM

COL Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 30 Dec 2016 12:00:04 -0500

No, SSG Jones, you should have that reaction. But, like most of the other respondents on this thread have said, Hollywood's job is to "entertain". I think most Hollywood producers like belittling the military because it makes them feel good.