Medical retirement, should I be proud to be Retired?

PO2 Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 05 Sep 2015 09:53:08 -0400

I've served the Navy for the last 13 years. I live, breathe and die Navy. My wife and I meet in the Navy.

After going through my multiple deployments of Detainee Operations. I am going through a MED/PEB. They are going to find me somewhere from 30-100% disabled. According to my PEBLO and Navy Safe Harbor representatives Medical Retirement is going to happen, because of my "Combat" injuries, their words not mine.

Should I be proud to call myself a retiree? Is it stolen Valor to wear Navy Retired hats and shirts? I work as a Veteran lobbyist, is it ok to use the title USN(ret)?

This may all sound dumb, but I'm struggling to accept any of this and I didn't join the Navy for a Medical retirement but to retire after 20 years.

Thanks for the help!

Response by Capt Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 5 at 2015 10:00 AM

Capt Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 05 Sep 2015 10:00:37 -0400

Did you do something to intentionally require the medical retirement? Of course not. So why are you doubting your service contribution?

Response by Cpl James Waycasie made Sep 5 at 2015 10:03 AM

Cpl James Waycasie — Sat, 05 Sep 2015 10:03:45 -0400

Unless you have a terrible SRB and other than honorable discharge why wouldn't you be proud? Life happens, you served honorably, now have medical issues. That does not take away from your honorable service Sir.

Response by SGT John W Lugo made Sep 5 at 2015 10:07 AM

SGT John W Lugo — Sat, 05 Sep 2015 10:07:56 -0400

Be proud for your commitment to the Navy,and thank you for your service.
I served 12 years Army,and took a break and tired reenlisting only to find out that I was told had diabetes and have to accept after several attempts to rejoin that it was out of my hands. So my point is be proud of your commitment for what you were willing to give,and remember that you didn't ask to be classified out,they gave you the discharge. Be proud and stay strong. God bless.

Response by CSM Michael J. Uhlig made Sep 5 at 2015 10:08 AM

CSM Michael J. Uhlig — Sat, 05 Sep 2015 10:08:53 -0400

Based on your words it is very evident that you are proud that you volunteered and more importantly that you served and answer the call of our Nation to go into harms way PO2 Private RallyPoint Member. Should you be proud you served, and proud to be retired? Hell Yeah, You EARNED It!

Response by CMSgt James Nolan made Sep 5 at 2015 10:46 AM

CMSgt James Nolan — Sat, 05 Sep 2015 10:46:42 -0400

PO2 Private RallyPoint Member Anyone who joins and serves honorably runs the risk of "life getting in the way". Apparently this is the case in your life, today. You have no control over getting legitimately injured, or in your body succumbing to a debilitating disease. That is just the way it is. Sad, but just the way it is.
IF, you get medically retired-IF because it has not yet happened..yes, wear with HONOR the retirement, it was earned.

Response by PO1 Alan John made Sep 5 at 2015 10:48 AM

PO1 Alan John — Sat, 05 Sep 2015 10:48:26 -0400

Yes, 'Nuff said!

Response by PO1 Alan John made Sep 5 at 2015 10:53 AM

PO1 Alan John — Sat, 05 Sep 2015 10:53:02 -0400

It should be something the U.S. is taking proactive counter actions to right now. Chi-Comms are not our friends. 'Nuff said!

Response by LTC Stephen F. made Sep 5 at 2015 11:01 AM

LTC Stephen F. — Sat, 05 Sep 2015 11:01:35 -0400

Yes PO2 Private RallyPoint Member I think you should be both proud that you served the Navy that you and your wife both love and thankful that you are still breathing and able to retire honorably having met the requirements.
You served where the Navy assigned you and you were injured during combat as the record states. The Military Service dictates the retirement rules - sometimes they are for 20 years, other times for 15 years and in cases like your for medical reasons. If Navy retires you then are are retired and have the right to consider yourself retired.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 5 at 2015 11:08 AM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 05 Sep 2015 11:08:31 -0400

The question should be: Why do you find it necessary to get others approval?

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 5 at 2015 11:11 AM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 05 Sep 2015 11:11:17 -0400

Do it before it goes away, it's easy. I did the same thing. Still waiting for E6 backlog to clear so I can do SSD II.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 5 at 2015 11:14 AM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 05 Sep 2015 11:14:17 -0400

Yes, just like everything else we are required to do. Its called: "Personal Responsibility"

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made Sep 5 at 2015 12:18 PM

MAJ Ken Landgren — Sat, 05 Sep 2015 12:18:00 -0400

I was in a similar situation with the Army. I got retired medically retired and was able to accept it when I knew in my heart I could not do my job, and the army was better off without me. That just made sense. Guilt or lost dreams is a chain that will drag you down, cut that chain and become free. You can always contact me if you feel like it.

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 5 at 2015 1:21 PM

MSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 05 Sep 2015 13:21:58 -0400

Simple answer is HELL YES! You have accomplished what many can't or are not willing to do. And that is serve this country. There will always be situations and problems beyond our control. You served honorably.
"Honorably" lets look at that word.
1. In accordance with or characterized by principles of honor.
2. Dignity, or distinction, noble.
3. Worthy of honor and high respect.
4. Bringing honor or credit; consistent with honor.

You Sir, should stand proud amongst your brothers and sisters. And we thank you for your service.

Response by PO2 Corey Ferretti made Sep 5 at 2015 2:45 PM

PO2 Corey Ferretti — Sat, 05 Sep 2015 14:45:21 -0400

Be proud you served your time and we're medically retiered due to your service. I was retiered after 10 years I hated it I had a little bit of shame that went with it. Like you I loved the NAVY I identity was Navy. I never said I was retiered I would say I got out. Now I proudly say I was retiered. Be proud brother.

Response by MCPO David Louden made Sep 5 at 2015 5:32 PM

MCPO David Louden — Sat, 05 Sep 2015 17:32:50 -0400

Mike,
Be proud to call yourself a "veteran" Shipmate. I retired with a bit more than 30 years in and rarely use the term "retired" other than occasionally in correspondence or in cases of legal requirements. Other than that, it is a rarely used term and does not matter to me. Everyone must act according to their own conscience. I am a Navy Veteran...(EOM)/AR.. Cheers!

Response by MCPO David Louden made Sep 5 at 2015 5:35 PM

MCPO David Louden — Sat, 05 Sep 2015 17:35:42 -0400

And, nice pick by the way.

Response by PO1 Glenn Boucher made Sep 5 at 2015 6:54 PM

PO1 Glenn Boucher — Sat, 05 Sep 2015 18:54:08 -0400

Why would you be anything but proud of your service regardless of the number of years served?
As you said its not your choice, your being medically retired due to your medical conditions.
Being medically retired is retired no special salutation is required, just like being a veteran, whether it be 2 years or 40 years your a veteran, sure you deployed in various campaigns but those campaigns don't make or break your veteran status.
I don't want to sound like an ass, but I know I am going to and so be it.
Accept what it is and stop biting your nails worrying if someone will look at you differently because your medically retired, trust me not one of those couch potato warriors is signing your check.

Response by SGT(P) Crystal Marie France made Sep 5 at 2015 6:57 PM

SGT(P) Crystal Marie France — Sat, 05 Sep 2015 18:57:45 -0400

Absolutely you should be proud! THIS ARMY MEDIC IS PROUD IF YOU! Thank you for your service!!!!

Response by CDR Michael Goldschmidt made Sep 5 at 2015 7:22 PM

CDR Michael Goldschmidt — Sat, 05 Sep 2015 19:22:44 -0400

Like so many statuses, the government defines "retired", we don't. You served, they retired you, end of story. They will call you retired, so you will be retired. It is certainly NOT stolen valor to represent yourself according to your given status.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 5 at 2015 10:06 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 05 Sep 2015 22:06:24 -0400

Response by SGT Michael Glenn made Sep 6 at 2015 3:03 AM

SGT Michael Glenn — Sun, 06 Sep 2015 03:03:54 -0400

Why should you NOT be proud? You gave your all to your country and messed yourself up in the process, There is no dishonor in that. I am 100% disabled/Retired and I feel no shame. Yes I wish I could have stayed in but Thats why they call them ACCIDENTS !!! Stand tall and be proud brother !!!!

Response by LCDR Rabbah Rona Matlow made Sep 6 at 2015 11:08 AM

LCDR Rabbah Rona Matlow — Sun, 06 Sep 2015 11:08:01 -0400

If you were injured during your service, you were injured. It doesn't matter if it was a physical injury or an emotional/moral injury. Injury is injury. So be proud that you served the country, and take the retirement and start a new life. Yes it hurts to leave before you were ready - that is grief.

For both the grief and the other injuries, I hope you have a good counselor/therapist. That is the best way to get through this. If you want to seek consistency in your therapy while you transition out, contact the Soldier's Project - http://www.thesoldiersproject.org - we provide free counseling to post 9/11 active duty and vets. All therapists are licensed or authorized by their states and donate their time to serve those who served.

At the same time, contact the Wounded Warrior Project or Disabled American Veterans and get your VA claim going once you have your 214. If you are unable to work because of your injuries, then also file for Social Security Disability. Keep in mind that you EARNED these benefits by your service. Don't let anyone tell you that you are gaming the system...

Contact me offline if you need more information.

Response by SSgt Terry P. made Sep 6 at 2015 1:46 PM

SSgt Terry P. — Sun, 06 Sep 2015 13:46:23 -0400

If you did your job,there is no reason not to be proud of your service,it doesn't matter why you retired.

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made Sep 6 at 2015 2:36 PM

MAJ Ken Landgren — Sun, 06 Sep 2015 14:36:29 -0400

Be proud you served for a great country and you gave it your best.

Response by PO2 Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 6 at 2015 7:16 PM

PO2 Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 06 Sep 2015 19:16:45 -0400

Retired is retired. You volunteered, and you put in your time. You might be retiring a bit earlier than anticipated; but if they say you're retired then you're retired no matter how you got there, so enjoy this accomplishment.

Response by CDR Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 6 at 2015 7:17 PM

CDR Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 06 Sep 2015 19:17:28 -0400

The honor of service to one's country lies not in the amount or length of service, but that you served. Always be proud of the contribution you made to the strength of this great nation.

Response by CDR Brian Rinaldi made Sep 7 at 2015 4:20 AM

CDR Brian Rinaldi — Mon, 07 Sep 2015 04:20:56 -0400

I made it to almost 35 years and now I'm a 100% disabled retiree. I am proud of my service and thankful for my retirement. Like you, I would have stayed longer if they would have let me. Be proud Sailor.

Response by SSgt David Tedrow made Sep 7 at 2015 4:52 AM

SSgt David Tedrow — Mon, 07 Sep 2015 04:52:49 -0400

You served and because of your service you may be medically retired. You still served with honor and did your job, be proud of your service and your retired status.

Response by MSG Floyd Williams made Sep 7 at 2015 9:08 AM

MSG Floyd Williams — Mon, 07 Sep 2015 09:08:18 -0400

Yes, be proud you earned it, thank you for serving!

Response by SSG Sean Knudsen made Sep 7 at 2015 9:33 AM

SSG Sean Knudsen — Mon, 07 Sep 2015 09:33:31 -0400

P02 Little, you may be thinking too far into the reality of early retirement. You raised your right hand and wrote blank checks for your life. Leaving the service to our nation and humanity with Honorable discharge paperwork in hand says ALL that needs to be said of your courage, selfless service and devotion to us all. Thank you for your service and sacrifices. May you and your family live long prosperous lives.

Response by CW5 Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 7 at 2015 10:07 AM

CW5 Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 07 Sep 2015 10:07:22 -0400

I think the answer is a resounding yes, PO2 Private RallyPoint Member. You may not have served 20 years, but you certainly gave more than "just" time to the Navy and the defense of our country. Kudos to you, thank you for your service. I say, wear those retired Navy clothes, the hats, the T-shirts, and the title proudly!

Response by SPC Luis Mendez made Sep 7 at 2015 8:17 PM

SPC Luis Mendez — Mon, 07 Sep 2015 20:17:15 -0400

I don't see why not!
And I'm not even a fan of the Military 'cause I was Drafted! Which means I'm not part of the current crowds filled with adulations and fascinations with all things military, and promoted by politicians and some Media going around saying the TYFYS stuff.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 8 at 2015 12:03 AM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 08 Sep 2015 00:03:02 -0400

Yes, of course, you should be proud! Its not your fault that you got hurt. Anyone who served honorably should be proud. In fact, all wounded veterans, retired or not, especially deserve honors. I assume you have (a) Purple Heart(s) Whether you are retired medically or discharged with VA comp, you have every reason to be proud of your service. However, from what you said, if they give you a retired ID you can then use the title USN (RET). Thanks for your service in the Navy and for your advocacy and support to our veterans! I salute you!

Response by Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS made Sep 8 at 2015 7:00 AM

Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS — Tue, 08 Sep 2015 07:00:30 -0400

You served until you were no longer able to (per the Navy). Sometimes that is based on longevity, sometimes it's based on injury.

The 20/30 year mark is "historically" based on age more than anything. The point where our bodies just can't take the abuse any longer. You just reached it sooner than others.

Response by SPC(P) Jay Heenan made Sep 8 at 2015 10:48 AM

SPC(P) Jay Heenan — Tue, 08 Sep 2015 10:48:59 -0400

Congrats brother! Be proud! I am sorry you were unable to reach your personal goal of reaching 20 years, but things happen that are out of our control! Be blessed brother and wish you nothing but success in all that you do after you get out!

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made Sep 8 at 2015 10:55 AM

MAJ Ken Landgren — Tue, 08 Sep 2015 10:55:08 -0400

If you peel back the onion, you did everything you could to serve faithfully for our nation. This is the case of shit happens in life that are out of your control, thus, you are feeling guilty over a non-issue. It is fate, it is your time to get out. Get rid of the guilt because it is not warranted nor is it healthy for you. Let me communicate to you on behalf of RP members, we are sad you are hurt, but we are proud that you served and you did your best.

Response by SSG Warren Swan made Sep 8 at 2015 2:50 PM

SSG Warren Swan — Tue, 08 Sep 2015 14:50:07 -0400

Bro, you either need to pick your head up high or hang it low and push....do lots of them. You are a Vet in every sense of the word. You didn't decide the Navy wasn't for you, your medical condition decided you weren't fit for the Navy. You are part of an exclusive club....less than 1% of America has served, and that number drops to those who have made it to retirement. You're a Sailor and your oath of enlistment doesn't stop the minute you take that uniform off. Trust me. I was med boarded with less than two years to 20. It's a hard pill to swallow, but look at the uniform fondly. I even put it on time to time to remind me I did good, where my heart lies, and that's it's not over. Now my job is to mentor others and make their lives better or help them through the med board process if I can. The struggle is real, but the reality is so much better.

Response by SGT Rick Ash made Sep 8 at 2015 3:07 PM

SGT Rick Ash — Tue, 08 Sep 2015 15:07:49 -0400

You should be proud. I didn't know there were such things as retiree shirts but hell yes, wear them. You didn't ask for Medical Retirement, you joined for what you intended to be at least 20 years. Go with Pride Son, you served like the rest of us, maybe better. Start enjoying yourself!
Thank You for YOUR Service,
Rick

Response by CW3 Kevin Storm made Sep 8 at 2015 5:11 PM

CW3 Kevin Storm — Tue, 08 Sep 2015 17:11:33 -0400

Shy of self inflicted to avoid duty, I see no reason why you should not be proud to call your self a veteran of the Navy

Response by CW4 Russ Hamilton (Ret) made Sep 8 at 2015 7:42 PM

CW4 Russ Hamilton (Ret) — Tue, 08 Sep 2015 19:42:53 -0400

The legal answer is yes, you are a retiree. You are being retired for medical reasons per military regulations. The common sense answer is up to you: If you are proud of your service and what you have accomplished, then of course, be proud to call yourself a retiree! You earned it and I sure as hell would recognize you as an honorably retired service member!

Response by SFC Dr. Joseph Finck, BS, MA, DSS made Sep 28 at 2015 9:26 AM

SFC Dr. Joseph Finck, BS, MA, DSS — Mon, 28 Sep 2015 09:26:36 -0400

PO2 Private RallyPoint Member Yes, you earned the title retired. In your case through service connected injuries, but retired you are. When you obtain your retired identification card it is no different than a length of service retirees card. You have pride in your service and that pride should carry over. I understand, more than I may be willing to acknowledge, the loss you feel of your career not ending at 20 years of service, but you served with honor, were injured with honor, dedication to mission, and will be retired with honor and dignity. It's not dumb at all. In fact it is a cycle of grief over the loss of your 20 year career. Were the hat or shirt, you earned it. Have your email say USN (Ret) you earned that too.

Response by PO1 Unex Law made Sep 28 at 2015 7:03 PM

PO1 Unex Law — Mon, 28 Sep 2015 19:03:15 -0400

Man I to got medically retired as a CS1 with 14 1/2 years an I'm here to tell you to wear that retired badge with honor!!!! You deserve it. I got a nice percentage when I retired and Im not complaining one bit!!!! # retiredlife #35years old..

Response by SSG John Mitchell made Nov 20 at 2015 1:27 PM

SSG John Mitchell — Fri, 20 Nov 2015 13:27:11 -0500

At least you are getting enough of a Rating to be Retired. I got Medically Discharged yet was only Rated by The Army on ONE injury. It took and is taking me still fighting VA to get mine raised where more than one Doctor has told me it should be based on the problems that I have and the hardware.
You did not chose to be injured. You did not chose to be Disabled. That is a side effect to the Job we do and would continue to do given the chance. I stayed 8 years AFTER my initial injury. (Broken Back) That is why I have as many issues as I have. Along with a Training Accident in Iraq that left me with a moderate TBI.
Anyway, YES you should be proud of your service and the fact that you can call yourself Retired. Just because it's a Medical Retirement doesn't change your service or the fact that you ARE getting a Retirement. Just because you didn't make your 20 changes nothing. You sacrificed more then just Time when you get Injured because Injuries that are Major enough to put you out, are something that WILL effect you the rest of your life.

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made Nov 20 at 2015 3:01 PM

MAJ Ken Landgren — Fri, 20 Nov 2015 15:01:25 -0500

The military is a life of chance and you don't always know the outcome. If you served faithfully and with fidelity, you need to look at your retirement as a momentous occasion that no one cane take away from you. Accept it, keep your chin up, and see the past with clarity of a warrior.

Response by SPC David S. made Nov 20 at 2015 3:03 PM

SPC David S. — Fri, 20 Nov 2015 15:03:57 -0500

One day of honorable service is better than zero - never doubt your service.

Response by SSgt Robert Clark made Nov 20 at 2015 3:05 PM

SSgt Robert Clark — Fri, 20 Nov 2015 15:05:10 -0500

Retired is retired, you can't help that it is due to medical instead of making it to 20 or 30 years.
Why on earth would you even doubt? If your character of service is honorable then you have no reason to be anything less than proud.

Response by CWO4 Tim Hecht made Apr 27 at 2016 4:35 AM

CWO4 Tim Hecht — Wed, 27 Apr 2016 04:35:04 -0400

Be proud of your service - and it is totally appropriate to call yourself U. S. Navy, Retired.

Had you not sustained injuries that have forced you into a medical retirement you (with 13 years already) more then likely have done at least 20 and gotten a "regular" retirement.

On the issue of being a veteran lobbyist - I think you can use the USN, Retired but that question is out of my wheelhouse.

Response by LTC William Gilmore made Dec 17 at 2016 5:07 PM

LTC William Gilmore — Sat, 17 Dec 2016 17:07:14 -0500

If you are transferred to the retired list and qualify for retirement pay, then you have every right to call yourself a retiree. Wear your retiree hat with pride because you earned it. You also have the right to use your rank and others may refer to you by rank.

Response by SFC William Swartz Jr made Dec 17 at 2016 5:25 PM

SFC William Swartz Jr — Sat, 17 Dec 2016 17:25:53 -0500

There is nothing for you to feel "ashamed" of or less than due to being medically retired because of combat injuries. You have every right to wear anything you like as far as retired gear goes, and yes it is ok to use the USN(R), just because you are medically retired does not mean you are not retired, wear and use the title with pride! Remember, you have still done more than 99% of your fellow citizens by serving!!

Response by SPC Roger Giffen made Dec 17 at 2016 5:38 PM

SPC Roger Giffen — Sat, 17 Dec 2016 17:38:46 -0500

You did your time. the military deiced to retire you for an inhury beyond your control. You have nothing to question. You are an honorably retired person.

Response by Sgt Dale Briggs made Dec 17 at 2016 7:15 PM

Sgt Dale Briggs — Sat, 17 Dec 2016 19:15:56 -0500

You were hurt on duty serving your country; IMO nothing more noble regardless of the circumstances. Your not stealing a damn thing wear what you want proudly, you earned that right for 13 years of service.

Response by SGT Erik Kuntz made Dec 17 at 2016 7:27 PM

SGT Erik Kuntz — Sat, 17 Dec 2016 19:27:22 -0500

First off, GO ARMY, BEAT NAVY. lol. But yes you should treat yourself as a retiree. I was medically retired in July 2014. I served 14 years honorably. I have an ID that's says RETIRED. It doesn't specify what kind of retirement. But hey. A retirement is a retirement. Enjoy it and never think anything less of your service.

Response by SSG Edward Joy made Dec 17 at 2016 7:27 PM

SSG Edward Joy — Sat, 17 Dec 2016 19:27:52 -0500

If you are medically retired then you are retired. The only people that piss me off are the guys who put in four years that claim there retired.

Response by SGM Mikel Dawson made Dec 17 at 2016 7:41 PM

SGM Mikel Dawson — Sat, 17 Dec 2016 19:41:30 -0500

What does the DD214 say? You a screw up? I really doubt it - so be a retired VET! You did your job to the best of your ability. Not your fault you get a med retirement. Just be glad they are taking responsibility for the way you are now. Get out and enjoy life after service.

Response by A1C Charles Hagen made Dec 17 at 2016 10:01 PM

A1C Charles Hagen — Sat, 17 Dec 2016 22:01:58 -0500

I was in for less. I am 70% service connected and Honorably Discharged. My team was the best in the wing. I am DAMN proud. This pride isn't measured by a calendar. Neither is valor, dedication or honor.

Response by SFC George Smith made Dec 17 at 2016 10:05 PM

SFC George Smith — Sat, 17 Dec 2016 22:05:13 -0500

there is no dishonor in being retired especially Medically because of service connected injuries ...

Response by 1SG David Spalding made Dec 18 at 2016 4:11 AM

1SG David Spalding — Sun, 18 Dec 2016 04:11:13 -0500

I was involuntarily, medically retired at 19 years. I wanted to stay, but... If you received orders that state "retired" - yes, you should be proud. You served. That is more than the majority of Americans can say.

Response by CWO3 Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 18 at 2016 6:55 AM

CWO3 Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 18 Dec 2016 06:55:19 -0500

Anybody that serves and survives should be proud and content, regardless of the circumstances, as long as one served honorably. Arlington Cemetery and many graveyards all over the World and USA are full of people that didn't survive, and made the ultimate sacrifice. So to live and be able to tell about it is an achievement to be proud of. All gave some, some gave all.

Response by Maj Marty Hogan made Dec 18 at 2016 1:49 PM

Maj Marty Hogan — Sun, 18 Dec 2016 13:49:14 -0500

Not reading the whole thread- nor any answers. You served- yes you should be proud. I don't care if you deployed- only adds to your dedication. Every person that serves can't be in combat- and not everyone in combat can control outside circumstances that cause an injury. I wish you luck in your next phase and consider you a hero. Hold your head high- you've earned everyone's respect and deserve it from yourself as well.

Response by PO2 Robert M. made Dec 18 at 2016 3:34 PM

PO2 Robert M. — Sun, 18 Dec 2016 15:34:29 -0500

Mr. Little,
I find myself in the same quandary.
I served 7 1/2 years, was going to make it a "career", but in the middle of my tour, I started getting sick.
They thought I had a stroke, because of 1/2 my face went numb, lost my eyesight and gait was like I was drunk.
They rushed me to Queen's Hospital in London where they gave me a primary diagnosis of a demyelinating disease of the brain. They sent me to an Air Force hospital for a spinal tap ( they were unable to drawn any cerebral spinal fluid ), so they Medevaced me to Bethesda Naval Hospital.
To make a long story short, I was diagnosed with Multiple Sclerosis, I am a 100% Service Connected Disabled Veteran. I thank GOD every day I got sick while I was in the Navy, for ONE of my Rx's cost $18,000 a year. I was on that script for 5-6 years before I had 7-8 Heart attacks at 45 over one weekend!!!! Dummy me, I thought I was having heartburn....So I drive myself to the VA, describe my symptoms, and they call a code on me! Five minutes later I was in the heart lab......
It pains me that I could not fulfill my life to the Navy.
I still think about it every day, the good, the bad and all the inbetween ....
But I AM proud that I did serve. I only wish I could still serve.
Sorry for rambling on.......
Thank you for your Service Sir!
God Bless you and your wife, and God Bless the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!

Response by 1LT Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 18 at 2016 6:26 PM

1LT Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 18 Dec 2016 18:26:16 -0500

I'm confused. Unless you are wearing medals that you didn't earn or claiming an affiliation to schools you never attended, how could this be Stolen Valor?

Response by MAJ Karen Wall made Dec 18 at 2016 10:12 PM

MAJ Karen Wall — Sun, 18 Dec 2016 22:12:53 -0500

Hi, Michael! Retiree is retiree, regardless of the source. Once you are retired, you are a Navy Retiree, so go ahead and wear that hat. The Navy made the decision for you to retire, not you, so be proud of your service and continued service to veterans.

Response by SCPO Luis Montalvo made Feb 28 at 2017 5:05 AM

SCPO Luis Montalvo — Tue, 28 Feb 2017 05:05:19 -0500

Thank you for your service. Being proud is one thing, which you should be. Terminology is another. The question is, do you get retirement benefits? If not, you are medically discharged not retired. Does not mean you can't be proud to have served.

Response by PO2 Samantha Day made Feb 28 at 2017 6:59 AM

PO2 Samantha Day — Tue, 28 Feb 2017 06:59:37 -0500

I too was medically retired, with fewer years than you, and struggled for quite a while with the same questions. Fortunately, I was under the care of an incredible colo-rectal surgeon who told me that I had no reason to be ashamed or feel guilty for not completing my "20". He said the system is there specifically for servicemembers like me, who become "unfit" for active duty through no fault of our own. For me... he would say (even to this day) that I got the really "short end of the stick".

Response by PO1 Steve Prusinski made Feb 28 at 2017 7:40 AM

PO1 Steve Prusinski — Tue, 28 Feb 2017 07:40:09 -0500

You're damn sure should be proud! I retired at 20, but don't let the years get you down. You served proudly and gave it your best.Welcome to retirement and you have 100% of my respect shipmate.

Response by CPO George Miller made Feb 28 at 2017 9:31 AM

CPO George Miller — Tue, 28 Feb 2017 09:31:04 -0500

I felt the same way when I was initially placed on the TDRL, and subsequently Medically Retired. I was planning on a 30 year career, but it was not to be.
Be proud of the service you were able to render to our country, as there are many who think the freedoms they enjoy are free. We all know that it is from sacrifice by the few of us that do serve, that we are a free nation. Stand Tall Sailor!

Response by PO3 Dan Wagoner made Feb 28 at 2017 9:35 AM

PO3 Dan Wagoner — Tue, 28 Feb 2017 09:35:32 -0500

Per what you explained, you have given this country most of your life and served with great honor, ld say wear that hat with pride shipmate, you have earned every letter on it and l am personally proud to call you shipmate, you have gone beyond the call of duty and still give more!

Response by PO2 Paul Pender made Feb 28 at 2017 9:55 AM

PO2 Paul Pender — Tue, 28 Feb 2017 09:55:02 -0500

Absolutely. Earned Honorably and affected by circumstances that you couldn't control. So wear that Navy Retired ballcap with pride

Response by PO1 Donnie Wilson made Feb 28 at 2017 9:55 AM

PO1 Donnie Wilson — Tue, 28 Feb 2017 09:55:53 -0500

If you are medically RETIRED, you my friend are retired. There is no shame in that, you di d what you were suppose to do and through no fault of your own you are going to be medically retired.

Response by CAPT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 28 at 2017 10:19 AM

CAPT Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 28 Feb 2017 10:19:54 -0500

You served and sacrificed, be proud.
Also, regulations provide special consideration for the children of deceased or 100% disabled veterans for entrance to the service academies (West Point, Naval Academy, Air Force Academy).

Response by CAPT Hiram Patterson made Feb 28 at 2017 10:25 AM

CAPT Hiram Patterson — Tue, 28 Feb 2017 10:25:25 -0500

Yes, you should be proud to be a Navy retiree regardless of the reason! Using USN (Ret) is most appropriate.

Response by CPO Albert Kennison made Feb 28 at 2017 10:51 AM

CPO Albert Kennison — Tue, 28 Feb 2017 10:51:32 -0500

As a retired CPO, I will say one thing about this, RETIREMENT IS RETIREMENT. The Navy is medically retiring you due to combat injuries, and that gives you all the rights and benefits as a retired. Don't sell yourself short. You have served your country with honor so if you want to wear a ball cap with NAVY RETIRED on it, you wear it.

Response by CWO3 Bryan Luciani made Feb 28 at 2017 11:10 AM

CWO3 Bryan Luciani — Tue, 28 Feb 2017 11:10:08 -0500

I think I see your dilemma. Using the term "retired" has never been reserved for just those who did their 20 years. While I do occassionally put the "ret" after my name on some documents, I never wear a hat nor t-shirt that mentions it, as I believe that some non-20-year veterans did more than I did in my 20, and might see it as a divider between us. We are all proud veterans, nothing more, nothing less. As well, I've never seen anyone more impressed with a retired veteran than any other veteran. It's all in your head brother. I am always sad to see a brother leave the service that would like to stay on and serve our country. I wish you success.

Response by CPO Earl Jones made Feb 28 at 2017 11:57 AM

CPO Earl Jones — Tue, 28 Feb 2017 11:57:39 -0500

Its not stolen valor to wear a Navy ball cap or T-shirt. I understand your feeling about being medical retired due to myself being medical retired myself in 2004. The only difference is that I had served for 24 yrs. But at my retirement I didn't get the letter from the president of the state governor. I was finally retired from the Navy in 2008, when they removed me off the medically retired. I was medical retired at 60%. Once when though the VA it was raised to 80% and this year became 100% disabled. Make sure you go though the DAV, before you are discharged, they can make sure, that you claim everything.

Response by PO3 Jamie Richter made Feb 28 at 2017 12:36 PM

PO3 Jamie Richter — Tue, 28 Feb 2017 12:36:31 -0500

You did what most people wouldn't have, fate, decided for you what would happen, but as long as you tried, there is no fault in it. If you get discharged honorably, then job well done! The difficult part will be accepting you medical limitations and moving on.

Response by PO1 Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 28 at 2017 4:20 PM

PO1 Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 28 Feb 2017 16:20:57 -0500

Yes, you should be proud of yourself.

Response by PO1 Timothy Brown made Feb 28 at 2017 4:33 PM

PO1 Timothy Brown — Tue, 28 Feb 2017 16:33:29 -0500

Always be proud and yes I think you should call yourself Retired. You deserve the honor and you gave all you had.

Response by CPO Johnny Guido made Feb 28 at 2017 4:44 PM

CPO Johnny Guido — Tue, 28 Feb 2017 16:44:56 -0500

Your a "wounded warrior!" What's not to be proud of?? You have a certified service connected injury. Your wife will now be guaranteed some of your retirement if she outlives you. You have NOTHING to be ashamed of.
HMC Johnny S. Guido, USN(ret)

Response by SFC William H. made Feb 28 at 2017 8:44 PM

SFC William H. — Tue, 28 Feb 2017 20:44:46 -0500

The fact that you even asked about stolen valor tells me all I need to know about you. Welcome to USN (Ret)...Thanks for your service!

Response by PO1 Thomas Brooks made Feb 28 at 2017 10:37 PM

PO1 Thomas Brooks — Tue, 28 Feb 2017 22:37:35 -0500

Hey Shipmate you did the time it is not your fault the med board declared you retired, you are retired you earned the title wear it!!

Response by PO3 Earl F. McCartney 111 made Feb 28 at 2017 11:24 PM

PO3 Earl F. McCartney 111 — Tue, 28 Feb 2017 23:24:27 -0500

None of us wanted to get a med. discharge but unfortunately as I'm sure all will agree sometimes in life "Shite happens." I was med. discharged almost 30 years ago at a 100% service connected. Never, ever have I once not been proud to call myself a Veteran! Neither should you or anybody else. I would also like to say thank you for your service and all that you have done for this country. You Sir are a true Hero and don't ever think anything different!! If you ever need someone to talk to, give me a yell.

Response by TSgt James (Daniel) Shaw made Mar 1 at 2017 12:23 AM

TSgt James (Daniel) Shaw — Wed, 01 Mar 2017 00:23:43 -0500

IMO. Any time a member of the armed forces retires, there are guidelines that must be met. I don't care if you served 6 months or were forced out due to your age. If you met the requirements for retirement, you can and should be proud of your military service. If you are retired military, I salute you! Thank you for a job well done, and for your sacrifice!
FYI. I am now a disabled veteran of the United States Air Force.
God bless you.

Response by CMDCM John F. "Doc" Bradshaw made Mar 1 at 2017 12:26 AM

CMDCM John F. "Doc" Bradshaw — Wed, 01 Mar 2017 00:26:17 -0500

PO2 Little, Absolutely!!! You should feel Proud of Your Honorable Service and the fact that you are fortunate to have lived through your medical issue in order to Retire!!!! Well Done!!! Be Proud!!! You earned and deserve this!!! You are NOT a Failure by ending your Career early in this way!!! May God Bless You and Family Everyday! Doc Bradshaw

Response by PO1 Michael Scott made Mar 1 at 2017 7:51 AM

PO1 Michael Scott — Wed, 01 Mar 2017 07:51:18 -0500

I understand your conflict very well. I myself was medically retired at 19 years and struggled daily at the end of my career with using a cane or even parking in a handicapped spot while in uniform.
As far as being considered USN(Ret) or "stolen valor", that sir is as Master Chief said on your own conscious. I fought the same monsters and accepted it because every morning I wake up and do not put my uniform on I still must grab my cane, ask my wife for help, take my 25 medications, go to my medical appointments and use a wheelchair. This reminds me that I served with so much pride I accomplished my Navy mission at all costs. So IMO you earned that title wear it with pride.

Response by PO2 Ricky L. Isreal made Mar 1 at 2017 10:23 AM

PO2 Ricky L. Isreal — Wed, 01 Mar 2017 10:23:01 -0500

No matter. You're in better than I was.
Medical discharge after 5.5 years of service with 20% disability for "distuance o.F conscience, no eiteolgy found. Then upped to 30% so I could go to college. 9.5 years after discharge, and numerous VAMC stays, the VA finally found out that I was misdiagnosed and I was put on 100% service connected diabilaty.

Response by COL Charles Williams made Mar 1 at 2017 9:10 PM

COL Charles Williams — Wed, 01 Mar 2017 21:10:26 -0500

PO2 Private RallyPoint Member Absolutely you should!

Response by PO1 Donald King made Mar 2 at 2017 2:05 AM

PO1 Donald King — Thu, 02 Mar 2017 02:05:36 -0500

Shipmate be proud that you served. Do not let your health get in your way of being Proud of what you have accomplished. I served my time and now years after retiring I have health issues and was medically retired due to health issues, I fight with the thought "is there anything I could have done to prevent it, and could I truly do more." Live the life that has been handed to you,but LIVE. Be Proud to say USN Retired! It is an honor that you have served. Thank you for your service.

Response by PO2 Joshua Reid made Mar 3 at 2017 3:11 AM

PO2 Joshua Reid — Fri, 03 Mar 2017 03:11:26 -0500

No. Do not quit or settle for any retirement. Look at it like this, get out and sell crack, hustle, and start state militias with your highly overqualified Navy Skills that will NOT EVER (n'ever) adapt to civilian workforce habitat. OR Fight tooth and nail to be perceived as Able Body sailor and take any offer the Navy gives you. Walk upright, write your congressman NOW and pray the Navy keeps you
TO BE OR NOT TO BE

NEVER QUIT

Response by PO2 Joshua Reid made Mar 3 at 2017 3:21 AM

PO2 Joshua Reid — Fri, 03 Mar 2017 03:21:00 -0500

Also, if they give you a fork in the road, take it!

Response by CAPT Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 3 at 2017 10:14 AM

CAPT Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 03 Mar 2017 10:14:46 -0500

1. If the Navy medically discharges you I believe that counts as "retired."
2. If you are concerned, wear hats/shirts that just say Navy. I've never seen any difference between two as how they are perceived by others.

Response by LTC Sonya Friday made Mar 5 at 2017 11:37 PM

LTC Sonya Friday — Sun, 05 Mar 2017 23:37:19 -0500

Please remember you answered the call that many will never do. Be proud of who you are and what you've done for our great nation and what is yet to come of you. Remember when one door closes another one will open just make sure you are looking forward so you can see it. The lord knows your heart and YOU need to know that we are all proud of you. You will always be our brother in ARMS. Get well and go kick some butt as a USN (Ret) citizen.

Response by SSG Vance Conyers made Mar 7 at 2017 9:28 AM

SSG Vance Conyers — Tue, 07 Mar 2017 09:28:21 -0500

I feel your pain as I was med boarded in Sep 16 after 15 years in the Army. My plan was also to retire after 20. I felt like I had failed at first, but realized that I was med boarded for a reason. I too had multiple deployments and sustained injuries that warranted my shorted stay in the Army. I am medically retired and do feel I have earned the right to be call retired, as should you. You were told and did not initiate in any way this decision in ant way. I wish you the best and hope you come to the realization that your retirement was EARNED!

Response by 1SG David Spalding made Mar 9 at 2017 12:44 PM

1SG David Spalding — Thu, 09 Mar 2017 12:44:28 -0500

I fought the medical board for four years. Finally after I had to have surgery to have five vertebra in my neck fused (from a combat related injury) I gave in, but submitted the paperwork (with recommendations from two O-6s and one O-7) to stay in until my 20. They didn't even look at it and retired me with 19 years. I get retirement pay, but only about half of what I'd have got with 20. Be careful what you agree to and what you sign. But if the Navy wins and medically retires you - be proud! Wear the Navy Retired hats and shirts. You served your country! And that is more than a great majority of Americans can say.

Response by PO2 Norman Jones made Mar 10 at 2017 12:35 AM

PO2 Norman Jones — Fri, 10 Mar 2017 00:35:00 -0500

Yes, You should be very proud of your Naval Service! Yes, you are retired from the U.S. Navy in a very honorable way; so wear any Retired USN Hat you want!

Response by SSG Edward Tilton made Mar 14 at 2017 5:34 PM

SSG Edward Tilton — Tue, 14 Mar 2017 17:34:36 -0400

It explains why I retired an E-6 without having to go into a long explanation

Response by PO2 Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 9 at 2018 9:04 PM

PO2 Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 09 Apr 2018 21:04:49 -0400

I am a little over 14 yrs and had my wrist reconstructed twice, shoulder reconstructed twice, ACL replaces, my other shoulder reconstructed, my ankle reconstructed, mild renal failure, PTSD from Iraq and a service dog. Also on a max dose of Effexor, welbutrin, trazodone, and procizone. The navy found me fit. Rebuttaled it came back fit. That was in 2016. Nov 20th last year I was about to sign my DD214 and mental health called and said they got me on another PEB. Same process etc.. on the 14th of March we sent the paperwork to DC on the 16th they sent it back saying I’m fit. Reasoning because I missed a couple appointments. They said that since I missed those appointments I’m stable on my medication....

Response by SGM Bill Frazer made Jul 2 at 2018 10:35 PM

SGM Bill Frazer — Mon, 02 Jul 2018 22:35:29 -0400

You earned it, wear it- it was not your fault- luck of the draw, Brother.

Response by PO2 Seth Carron made Dec 3 at 2018 6:20 PM

PO2 Seth Carron — Mon, 03 Dec 2018 18:20:33 -0500

You served honorably. I wouldn't be upset if you used the retired title. Your medical issues came from your service.

Response by PO1 Randy Horelica made Dec 3 at 2018 10:57 PM

PO1 Randy Horelica — Mon, 03 Dec 2018 22:57:57 -0500

In the mid 90s I was stationed at a Naval hospital I seen and heard a lot of corpsmen with less than ten years in scam the boards for a disability retirement.

Response by SFC Ron Culver made Dec 4 at 2018 10:40 PM

SFC Ron Culver — Tue, 04 Dec 2018 22:40:58 -0500

If they offer you a medical retirement take it with pride. In 1989 I was given a medical discharge, not retirement, after 13 years service in the Army.

Response by PFC Adam Murray made Dec 5 at 2018 1:28 AM

PFC Adam Murray — Wed, 05 Dec 2018 01:28:34 -0500

Yes.

Response by Sgt Mark Tarte made Dec 6 at 2018 12:44 PM

Sgt Mark Tarte — Thu, 06 Dec 2018 12:44:14 -0500

You are a retiree, regardless of how you were retired. You wear the Navy retired hat all you want. I served my 4 year hitch in the AF and went into police work. After 17 years and numerous injuries, I was medically retired from the agency. I’m considered a retired cop. I thank you for your service and sacrifice...

Response by Sgt Steve Nancarrow made Dec 6 at 2018 10:32 PM

Sgt Steve Nancarrow — Thu, 06 Dec 2018 22:32:57 -0500

There's no shame in being medically retired. It simiply means that you gave 100% at all times. Life happens. Chin up, chest out sailor.

Response by CPO Rob Carleen made Dec 7 at 2018 4:41 PM

CPO Rob Carleen — Fri, 07 Dec 2018 16:41:23 -0500

Look, you served honorably, somehow ended up unable to stay in the Naval forces through no fault of your own. You are a veteran, and a retiree. Tell the world you were proud to serve and gave it your all. Wear the hat, shirt and any other reminder of your service proudly. Not all of us make it to a full 30 year retirement. When the Navy says you’ve done your share, and it’s all we can ask of you, you know in your heart they are doing this as a last resort.

Response by SrA Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 7 at 2018 10:56 PM

SrA Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 07 Dec 2018 22:56:14 -0500

Honestly, if you where in for six months and where medically discharged bc a port-a-john fell on you. You shoul still be proud. You're 1% that served abd even fewer plan on making it a careers. Life gets in the way of our plans sometimes, nothing to not be proud of.

Response by PO1 Joseph Feldhaus made Dec 7 at 2018 11:34 PM

PO1 Joseph Feldhaus — Fri, 07 Dec 2018 23:34:20 -0500

Honorable is Honorable, whether it was two or twenty doesn't matter. You served faithfully and should be honored.

Response by WO1 Edward Stewart made Dec 8 at 2018 12:46 AM

WO1 Edward Stewart — Sat, 08 Dec 2018 00:46:06 -0500

It is very simple the navy retires you and you have a if card then your a retiree. If you do not still no shame to tell others that you retired early due to disabilities.

Response by MSG John Joseph made Dec 8 at 2018 1:03 PM

MSG John Joseph — Sat, 08 Dec 2018 13:03:56 -0500

I'm shocked your even asking this and who really GAF what you wear.

Response by MSG Terry Sentell made Dec 8 at 2018 1:24 PM

MSG Terry Sentell — Sat, 08 Dec 2018 13:24:31 -0500

If you served three years 10 years 15 years 20 years and you served honorably not a darn thing wrong with being proud of what you did!

Response by CPO Nate S. made Dec 18 at 2018 9:57 PM

CPO Nate S. — Tue, 18 Dec 2018 21:57:39 -0500

PO2 Private RallyPoint Member I realize the original post was > 1ye ago. However, for everyone else reading this post Cpl James Waycasie is correct, unless your service record is FUBAR, then it is what it is. My father, USAF was retired with 100% SCD and he did <10 yrs AD. He fell off a wing of B-52 and was medically retired with trauma induced epilepsy. This was late 50s/early 60s. Also, I agree with CSM Michael J. Uhlig you were willing to go into harm's way and did not shirk your duties. But that said, make you understand the DD-214 and what is being put on it.

As Chief Corpsman, I would call you a ___% Service Connect Disable (SCD) Medically Retired Veteran. This is clear, at least to me! However, please be sure your DD-214 is squared away!!! The following is what I would have said a year ago, if I had seen this post a year ago!!!

My only question would be since you stated your duty was Detainee Operations and your PEBLO and Navy Safe Harbor representatives Medical Retirement are calling your injuries "combat" related seems like they, with such language, are placing you in an interesting position about your injuries. I would ask them what code they intend to show on block 27 on your DD-214 (https://www.navycs.com/military-re-codes.html.) In all likelihood you will have an "RE-3P: Physical disability (includes discharge and transfer to TDRL) code in Block 27. Frankly, is seems odd they are using the "combat" to enhance in their own minds your situation. If enough inform was presented at your med-board and a complete review of your service in light of your stated and documented injuries jives, it seems using "combat" to define your injuries does not make sense. However, the block 27 code does not state combat or not, unless there is another code I am not aware about. Also, make sure you are aware of the Block 26 code (https://www.dd214.us/reference/SPN_Codes.pdf) as well. In your case it could be: RFJ (or) RFK, which are for permanent or temporary disability respectively. In your case as USN an added code or primary code might be SFJ / SFK indicating you are USN SCD Veteran. I have also seen in Block 18 remarks brief states about combat tours. So be sure your DD-214 is not being "corrupted", when you know clearly, you never saw combat. You are required to review your DD-214 before getting out, so make sure it is "right." If your "Detainee Duty" has been officially declared as "combat duty", ask to see the Dod or VA directive stating so. It is your DD-214, make sure it tells - your "truthful" story.

Regardless what they say, it is up to you to tell your SCD story honestly to guys like me. I have a relative a young army female < 29 yo who is getting 90% SCD, but because of here duties she can no longer do her job in the Army, but did not see combat. Her injuries are very legitimate. I spoke with her at Thanksgiving just two weeks ago (she is actually my daughter in law's younger sister.)

In any event, when people ask about your injuries NEVER lie, let them know the nature of your duties and how you got injured. If you were NEVER in combat operations. Tell people, many vets are injured in non-combat situations. If you are injured you are injured. Simple as that! But, don't embellish and try to impress people. If you embellish - that is STOLEN VALOR!!! Tell the truth, and to hell with what people think.

Just an old HMC's perspective.

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Response by SCPO Morris Ramsey made Dec 18 at 2018 10:21 PM

SCPO Morris Ramsey — Tue, 18 Dec 2018 22:21:01 -0500

Be proud. Wear all the Retired stuff you want. Attend all retiree functions. Be Proud. Stand Tall.

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made Jun 27 at 2019 9:44 PM

MAJ Ken Landgren — Thu, 27 Jun 2019 21:44:15 -0400

Is it retirement or separation? Either way, should feel proud and your chin up on your last day on AD.

Response by PO1 Darren Martin made Jun 12 at 2021 7:38 PM

PO1 Darren Martin — Sat, 12 Jun 2021 19:38:10 -0400

I medically retired after 5 years and I’m
extremely proud. I did two IAs in the Navy and was medically retired. It’s been over a decade I’ve gone to college and grad school and now that I am more disconnected I am more proud.