Military Dining-In vs. Dining Out Script?

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 07 Nov 2019 11:27:25 -0500

Are there any stark differences I should know about? I have an example that my organization used for dining in but could not find one for dining out.
One person says that there is no Mr./Madam Vice or President but all of my google searches are to the contrary. Does anyone have a good military ball/dining-out script I could use to show someone?

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 7 at 2019 6:57 PM

SSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 07 Nov 2019 18:57:14 -0500

It is from a different service but there is MCO P5060.20 chapter 24 and appendix D

Response by SFC Scott Higgins made Nov 8 at 2019 11:44 AM

SFC Scott Higgins — Fri, 08 Nov 2019 11:44:34 -0500

There is a USAREC Pamplet 600-15 from May of 1994 you could use as a guide.
http://www.slate.com/content/dam/slate/archive/media/2006/05/53_military_dining_handbook.pdf
There is also a very good comittee planning guide for dining ins and outs with a sample script.
I found it on the internet and you can download the pdf.
http://cdn.asktop.net/wp/download/9/Comittee%20Planning%20Guide%20for%20Dining%20Ins.doc.

53_military_dining_handbook.pdf

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Response by CAPT Kevin B. made Nov 8 at 2019 10:04 PM

CAPT Kevin B. — Fri, 08 Nov 2019 22:04:21 -0500

Scripts are nearly identical with a couple tweaks. About the only difference I've seen on the Navy side is the level of butchery and ribald toasts are toned down a lot for the out event. You'll pay a price if you don't gauge that properly. The higher the brass attending, the more prudish the event. That worked until some of the wives figured it out and opened a whole new can of worms. Game on. As you may surmise, the more epic events are held overseas. "I wish a toast to the fire. Not the fire that burns down the shanties, but the fire that lowers...." Oh hell, too many to count. We did 200 actual toasts for the Bicentennial. Only thing I remember was waking up on the pool table the next morning. Heave-Ho corner pocket. Things are too PC these days to party like that anymore; at least stateside.

Response by Maj Kim Patterson made Dec 7 at 2019 1:07 PM

Maj Kim Patterson — Sat, 07 Dec 2019 13:07:10 -0500

CPT Private RallyPoint Member the difference between a dining in and dining out is one is military only and things are said and done that would not necessarily appeal to spouses. A military ball is a completely different type of event.

Response by LTC Jason Mackay made Dec 7 at 2019 1:20 PM

LTC Jason Mackay — Sat, 07 Dec 2019 13:20:02 -0500

These two events are drastically different. The dining in is a closed mess where everyone let’s their hair down. The grog is charged and antics begin. No guest speaker, this is the president’s event. The dining out has guests and the unit is on its best behavior. No grog, no Mr Vice. The senior commander is the host. There may or may not be a guest speaker. Usually is. The air is formal and serious.

In the last decade we’ve gone away, come back to, and away from the real separation of these events.

Response by LTC Stephen C. made Dec 7 at 2019 1:52 PM

LTC Stephen C. — Sat, 07 Dec 2019 13:52:53 -0500

CPT Private RallyPoint Member, here’s the USMA guide for a dining-in. It provides great specificity and detail. Others have already described the differences between a dining-in and a dining out.

https://westpoint.edu/sites/default/files/inline-images/military/directorate_of_cadet_activities/MilitaryDiningInGuide.pdf

MilitaryDiningInGuide.pdf