Posted on Jan 3, 2014
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<p>I took my 18 y/o nephew to see both AF and Army Recruiters during my recent leave and it got me thinking about a few years when my own kids get old enough for us to explore those options.</p><p>Has anyone taken their kids (or other younger family members) to a recruiter? Do you let the recuiter know you are/were a member of the military? If so, when in the conversation, and how many details? </p><p>For those who are/were recruiters, obviously, you can probably tell a serving or former service member, but how does that play in your 'pitch?' What do you prefer, or does it even matter?</p><p>(I don't want to be dishonest with a recruiter, but I also want to find out the best information for those I take without my service being a distraction.)</p>
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Sir,

 

As a recruiter stationed in the DC metro area, I deal with people all of the time who are related to, or neighbors of, or friends with people in the military who have influence in their lives. When I initially meet someone it, is one of the first things I ask, not because it is going to change the truth, but because I want to know how I can best assist the applicant with their goals.

 

A lot of times kids are unsure of what their future will bring. All I want to do is give them the information so they can make an informed decision. Having an "influencer" there who is/was military a lot of times helps us out. The kids trust you, they just met me. When I am telling them about the Army, a lot of times it's the influencer that helps conduct most of the appointment, because they tell their military story. As a recruiter I am trained to tell "My Army Story," but because of what kids see on the internet or hear from tv, they are less likely to have full faith in me without your presence.

 

Having said the above though, when you find a good recruiter, the story will not change from interview to interview. Facts are facts and the ultimate goal of any great recruiter isn't always putting someone in boots. It's identifying with a person, informing them of their options, and if at the end of the appointment it's the road to their goals, then facilitate the process. If it's not for them then shake hands, thank them for coming and ask them if anyone they know can benefit from the information they were given.

 

Word of mouth is everything in recruiting. My reputation is at stake with every young person I sit with so upfront, I let them know anything I tell them can be found on goarmy.com or by going to Google. If one can come to work with that attitude everyday, this is a pretty easy job and fun too. I have the greatest job in the military. I get paid to talk about the Army.

 

SFC Adam J. Rosenlund

 

 

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SFC Rosenlund,

Fully understand the influencer aspect. With my nephew, I don't have that relationship, but do with my own kids. (May have to talk more with my sister-in-law!) 

As I continue my own service and my kids get older, I will get smarter on the options for them, so when I talk to Recruiters like you, we can best figure out how to assist my kid with their goals.

Thanks.

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MSG Brad Sand
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SFC Rosenlund,

Thank you for taking care of our future leaders of our Army and Army Reserve. I know how thankless your job can be at times.
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I'm currently recruiting doctors for the Navy here in Baltimore and my son recently joined the Marines (most of my time in Navy Medicine was in Camp Lejeune, so this was not a complete shock).  I pretty much let him talk to the recruiter himself and he was cool with letting me know what he said before signing any papers.

One of the best things you can do is to engage the recruiter while your kid is still a junior in HS, that way the recruiter has no incentive to "push him" into anything just to make goal that month.  Once you establish a good relationship you can ask point blank about the constraints of the process. 


I will say that there are a lot of crazy factors that go into when, where, and how a kid signs up and what MOS he/she gets, etc.  These are usually beyond the control of the recruiter.  For example, my son signed up a couple of months early than I initially wanted him to, but I knew that the govn't shutdown was going to affect the number of applicants each service could process at MEPS, so he signed up in June vice August.

Introducing yourself as the father who happens to be in the Army is probably better that being the 05 talking to the E5.  Especially if your kid joins the Army you could potentially be a great resource for the DEP Pool. 

Hope this helps!
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CPO Wheeler,

Thanks, this was helpful. I still have a few years (oldest is only 11) but from your comments I know better how to be smart in the process to help us all out.

 

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Earliest he can join the National Guard is 17 with your permission.  I signed my son up when he turned 17.  He chose the "split option" where he went to basic training between his junior and senior year and then went to AIT after he graduated HS.  Once he has completed basic and AIT, he technically doesn't need or have to have the first 2 years of ROTC so he can focus on his schooling the first 2 years.  However, if he wants an ROTC scholarship then depending on the duration (3 year or 2 year) he would obviously have to sign up.  Another option would be the Simultaneous Membership Program (SMP) where he would be in the Guard but instead of an enlisted rank he would be a Cadet and should be treated like an officer.  However I believe that the rule is that he can be either SMP or Scholarship but not both.  Texas A&M is a good school that has all branches of ROTC (Army, Navy/Marines, Air Force, & Coast Guard).
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CW2 Joseph Evans
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Sir,

   Thank you, that is good information to have. My son will be turning 17 his senior year, so the split option is probably out unless they will work around college courses too.
   I know at the end of the day I'll need to sit down with local recruiters for Air Guard and the Air Force, but knowing about options always helps that conversation.
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SFC Scott O.
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Chief, the Alternate training program is the one i was aware of for the Army not sure what the Air Force or Air Guard will call it. But yes it allows the enlistee to split training between two consecutive summers so it does not interfeer with their school, it's designed specifically for students and enlistees with jobs. He would have to know when the semester ends before summer break and when it starts again at the end of the summer so they know when to schedule his training. The Simultaneous Membership Program like LTC Dickey talked about, this may include MGIB benefits, sorry to be vague but that's what my recruiter pocket book states. Be sure you get on the Air Force website and explore around and find out everything you can so if the recruiter forgets something or didn't mention something you can ask " well what about __________" i was reading about on the Air Force website. As a recruiter i got those questions a lot and appreciated that the parents took the time to look into it with their kids and wanted what's best for them. Best of luck Chief
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Army reserve as the same split options and as well as minuteman and SMP scholarships.
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