Million Student March for Free College Education

2015-11-17T20:05:13-05:00

So these young people are DEMANDING free college education, educational debt relief, and $15/hour working on campuses. Just out of curiosity are our recruits DEMANDING new things? The students can demand all they want but have nothing to negotiate with, and when funds are used, there has to be a bill payer. I am sort of a math guy and they don't seem to have anyone who can do simple math, so let me illustrate what they are asking for.

22,000,000 college kids at $30,000/year = $660,000,000,000. That is like $2,200 from every woman, man, and child. Don't forget their is debt forgiveness as well.

They claim their is an inequity in college education. Of course there is, however, many college graduates found ways to pay for college on their own. Sometimes if a goal is difficult to attain, then it must be worth it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zmji36q8E4o

Neil Cavuto embarrasses student who wants free college and has no idea how to pay for it

A painful exchange with a young student who's organizing for free public colleges, cancellation of all student debt and $15/hour minimum wage for all campus ...

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 17 at 2015 8:18 PM

2015-11-17T20:18:51-05:00

These have to be the BIGGEST idiots that have ever attended college. Wht a load of crap this girl said. She didn't know what to say with the exception of "Absolutely" every 2 seconds. Hahahahaha

Response by SGT Jerrold Pesz made Nov 17 at 2015 8:20 PM

2015-11-17T20:20:37-05:00

If ignorance is bliss that bitch must be in ecstasy.

Response by Capt Seid Waddell made Nov 17 at 2015 8:25 PM

2015-11-17T20:25:06-05:00

Looks like the campus insanity of the late '60s and early '70s is making a comeback

Response by PVT Robert Gresham made Nov 17 at 2015 8:33 PM

2015-11-17T20:33:40-05:00

The students don't seems to realize that if this plan were to come to fruition we would be looking at gas prices similar to those in Europe ( On average $5.57 per gallon), MAJ Ken Landgren. Then taxes would be raised on EVERYONE, and everything, to include imports. Those currently living at the poverty level would slip well below it, and the country would basically become a sea of poor, working two to three jobs just to make a house payment, and buying only the bare necessities. The paychecks of these students coming out of college would not even be enough to get them to their jobs and back. In short, this plan is a crock !!

Response by PV2 Scott Goodpasture made Nov 17 at 2015 8:39 PM

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Response by CSM Charles Hayden made Nov 17 at 2015 8:45 PM

2015-11-17T20:45:44-05:00

MAJ Ken Landgren Personally, I don't think she was intelligent enough to be embarrassed!

Response by COL Vincent Stoneking made Nov 17 at 2015 8:48 PM

2015-11-17T20:48:50-05:00

I do think the young.... person in this video should have her college tuition refunded. It clearly didn't take.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 17 at 2015 8:58 PM

2015-11-17T20:58:36-05:00

That's the first thing I thought of. Replace Mr Madison with Keely's name.

Response by SGM Steve Wettstein made Nov 17 at 2015 9:33 PM

2015-11-17T21:33:11-05:00

MAJ Ken Landgren What is it with people now a days? Many seem to think they deserve things without earning/paying for them?

Response by Cpl Shane Cunningham made Nov 17 at 2015 9:54 PM

2015-11-17T21:54:53-05:00

Haha! I saw this! Hard to believe she's in charge of something. 100% tax is socialism but 90% isn't. Riiggghhhtttt

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made Nov 17 at 2015 9:58 PM

2015-11-17T21:58:31-05:00

I think the best line is Keely if your friends were making $250,000 will they be content they are taxed at 90%? Yea they will be happy with that. lol

Response by Sgt Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 17 at 2015 11:34 PM

2015-11-17T23:34:45-05:00

This young lady is just plain stupid. We have too many young people today that think they are entitled to have what other people have without putting forth the effort to earn it.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 18 at 2015 1:00 PM

2015-11-18T13:00:09-05:00

Let them march.
They will learn how the real world works, eventually.
When the government comes for their money to pay for someone else, I bet their tune changes.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 18 at 2015 1:27 PM

2015-11-18T13:27:56-05:00

The girl's weak response notwithstanding, Neil is off base with his 'gotcha' question. The answer to his silly question is simple...the same thing that pays for the previous 12 years of given student's education...taxes. Considering that the only federal schools are service academies, this means state and local taxes...as it has always been.

There may be 22m students...but that is not 22m students in 30k/yr schools or even in 4 yr programs. So the napkin math estimate in the OP is a serious exaggeration. Also, many students are in private colleges, something that isn't relevant to a conversation on public institutions.

More to the point, we as a society had decided, decades ago and for historical (rather than principled or philosophical) reasons, that the government should fund education up to 12th grade. No one is talking about why 12th grade was important or how the circumstances in our society may have changed since the 12th grade was important. Nor is anyone framing this problem in historical terms...as in, how much of a cost burden modern college is compared to past decades. College price inflation at rates way faster than CPI, combined with wage stagnation growing wages way below CPI, combined with an obscene rise in college expenditures that are funded essentially by risk-free money (aka student loans, risk-free for colleges, not so risk-free for students), are the variables in this discussion. Keeping it at the painfully superficial "who pays for it" level is not just missing the target, it's swinging way past the range fans.

Net result...we have a system, that for arbitrary (i.e. historical) reasons, considers education up to 12th grade a public good worth a publicly funded service (schools), but education after that as not a public good of the same level of importance. We also have a risk-free college funding model without any price regulation, that allows colleges to essentially gouge consumers and then pay for bells and whistles and administrator salaries. So yeah...I'm with the movement, even if they did send a weak PAO to chat with Neil.