Muslims Demand Own Section at Food Bank

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 23 Sep 2014 19:26:32 -0400

http://www.bizpacreview.com/2014/09/22/muslims-demand-food-banks-provide-pork-free-free-food-section-147340

Edit- Apparently there is a Muslim Food Bank in Canada. Seems to be working out fine. The more well-off Muslims should perhaps take the Canadian example as a future idea and create their own pork-free charity, as well.

Muslims demand food banks provide pork-free free food section - BizPac Review

It’s not enough that the food is free. It’s got to be pork-free, too? Muslim activists in Minnesota – that’s the heartland state that’s sent at least two men to fight on the side of Islamic fascists in Iraq – are demanding their own section in the local food bank so illiterate families can pick …

Response by SGT Mark Sullivan made Sep 23 at 2014 7:43 PM

SGT Mark Sullivan — Tue, 23 Sep 2014 19:43:08 -0400

I could say so much about this. Let me say this much, organized religion has caused more death in the name of God, Allah, Jesus, Vishnu... How many people have starved to death when they had a pig, or cow near by they could have slaughtered and eaten. But because some religious leader has declared it unclean, or they may be eating a relative, these people are cursed to starve. It's not the food banks problem to cater to a religion or religious needs. Their job is to provide food, and they are doing that

Response by MSG Wade Huffman made Sep 23 at 2014 8:21 PM

MSG Wade Huffman — Tue, 23 Sep 2014 20:21:36 -0400

OMG! I was realy hoping that this was going to be an article from the Onion or another satirical site. I'm really at a loss here. I just can't understand the mentality to DEMAND changes to something that is purely charity. More proof that no good deed goes unpunished.
So many more thoughts running through my mind right now, but I'll just leave my comments at that in an effort to remain civil.

Response by LTC Paul Labrador made Sep 23 at 2014 8:32 PM

LTC Paul Labrador — Tue, 23 Sep 2014 20:32:42 -0400

Beggars can't be choosers. Be happy you are getting free food in the first place.

Response by SSG Laureano Pabon made Sep 23 at 2014 8:37 PM

SSG Laureano Pabon — Tue, 23 Sep 2014 20:37:28 -0400

Hola (Hi, Hello)SGT Private RallyPoint Member , I put no comment in this because out here were I live, we have many Muslims who do own there groceries and they do take that conception (No Pork) into there businesses, however we do have 1 grocery store who practice's different. They do sell ham (Pork Items), and are able to do more business because they target there audience and maintain with in there religion and we of course (The Latin, African American and Chinese community) support them for that.

Response by SPC Brian Aranda made Sep 23 at 2014 8:37 PM

SPC Brian Aranda — Tue, 23 Sep 2014 20:37:37 -0400

If the people receiving the aid are having issues with understanding labels on food products they should have someone who doesn't have those issues go to the food bank with them. The Muslim community could even provide a volunteer to the food bank to help sort out these problems. When I was little I told my parents that I didn't like this or that for dinner, their response? "Eat or go hungry." This trend of those in need dictating to those who provide just isn't right.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 23 at 2014 8:40 PM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 23 Sep 2014 20:40:55 -0400

Unless I'm mistaken (please let me know if I am), but aren't Food Bank items "donated". If that is the case, then "NO", no one regardless of religion has the right to demand anything.

There are already plenty of foods provided in food banks that are pork free, i.e. soups, can vegestables, fruits, bread, cereal, etc. If any meats are provided, pick chicken, ground beef.

If none of this is sufficient....suggest getting a job and purchase what you want, maybe try demanding more hours on the job you have.

Response by PO3 Shaun Taylor made Sep 23 at 2014 8:45 PM

PO3 Shaun Taylor — Tue, 23 Sep 2014 20:45:11 -0400

I'm sorry I'm not a real big fan of pork either, but I'm telling you I would choose it over not eating. I'd be grateful that me and my family were eating. Especially if I'm depending on somebody else to feed me.

Response by Cpl Dennis F. made Sep 23 at 2014 9:00 PM

Cpl Dennis F. — Tue, 23 Sep 2014 21:00:47 -0400

Yes of course, and I demand free BJs as treatment to alleviate the stress, BP increase and swelling of my brain from reading about these self centered ingrate idiots. This kind of insane PC crap just makes me spit and stutter!

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 23 at 2014 9:10 PM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 23 Sep 2014 21:10:56 -0400

Given your edit to this post, now we know why those three ANA Soldiers were headed to Canada!! Makes sense now LOL. What ya think MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca?

Response by MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca made Sep 23 at 2014 9:24 PM

MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca — Tue, 23 Sep 2014 21:24:20 -0400

Food banks are generously stocked by food drives and other such events in addition to food chain donations and the limited funding they get. I'm involved in operating 6 or 7 food drives a year and you get what is generously given.

How about a thank you for being provided with this assistance? What's next the vegan, lactose and gluten free sections?

Shut-T-F-U and G-T-F-Out!

that and what LTC Paul Labrador said, though he's much more benevolent and classy.

Other than that, I have no comment at this time. :-)

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 23 at 2014 9:31 PM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 23 Sep 2014 21:31:47 -0400

What's next? Demanding that the Goodwill stores have their burkas and robes (or whatever you call them)?!?!?!?

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 23 at 2014 9:31 PM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 23 Sep 2014 21:31:48 -0400

Another example of self entitlement and an expectation for the majority to cower down to the minority once again!

Response by SSG Pete Fleming made Sep 23 at 2014 9:34 PM

SSG Pete Fleming — Tue, 23 Sep 2014 21:34:58 -0400

I don't like the choices...

Response by SFC Nestor Nievesmoran made Sep 23 at 2014 9:36 PM

SFC Nestor Nievesmoran — Tue, 23 Sep 2014 21:36:22 -0400

Want food? earn it, if they need assistance then take what is provided. If the food that is provided offends then the muslim community can develop their own food banks to meet their needs.

Response by SFC Mark Merino made Sep 23 at 2014 10:56 PM

SFC Mark Merino — Tue, 23 Sep 2014 22:56:36 -0400

People like that may also like their own section, with their own checker, with no lines ever, with hour that work for them, with better quality food, with someone to carry the bags to their government provided free vehicle, to go to their free residence, to have all their utilities paid, so they have maximum time available to say how much this country oppresses them. I will not rest until this woman's demands are meant, and if you don't agree with me, you are a big meanie who oppresses the oppressed.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 23 at 2014 11:00 PM

SSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 23 Sep 2014 23:00:11 -0400

They could always leave this country. Have some respect! Ladies!

Response by SFC Mark Merino made Sep 23 at 2014 11:03 PM

SFC Mark Merino — Tue, 23 Sep 2014 23:03:01 -0400

These posts were the reason I left Facebook. I think I need to get my medication levels adjusted......

Response by Sgt Packy Flickinger made Sep 23 at 2014 11:17 PM

Sgt Packy Flickinger — Tue, 23 Sep 2014 23:17:05 -0400

Feed them Canadian Bacon

Response by SPC David Shaffer made Sep 23 at 2014 11:47 PM

SPC David Shaffer — Tue, 23 Sep 2014 23:47:42 -0400

If they are complaining then they aren't very hungry in my opinion. They have food available at the food banks that is pork free i'm sure. Like I said this is just my opinion and I don't really know too much about food banks so I could be wrong.

Response by SSgt Christopher "TEX" F. made Sep 23 at 2014 11:56 PM

SSgt Christopher "TEX" F. — Tue, 23 Sep 2014 23:56:43 -0400

If you're not paying the tab you can't be picky! Go to some other country and DEMAND stuff, because you aren't demanding s**t here! Furthermore, you aren't running us over like you did the Brits!

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 24 at 2014 1:09 AM

MSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 24 Sep 2014 01:09:17 -0400

Actually doesn't surprise me at all. America is a country turning in to an entitlement to anyone who chose to cross our unprotected borders. I have said it before that we are all expected to hold hands in a circle and sing kumbaya. Pretty soon it will be illegal to be American in America.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 24 at 2014 1:11 AM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 24 Sep 2014 01:11:27 -0400

Not just no but HELL no!!! They do not have the right to dictate what is donated or put out. If they are so concerned then let the Muslim community create a Muslim only food bank. Totally ridiculous. The same goes for any and ALL other groups of people.

Response by LTC Hillary Luton made Sep 24 at 2014 5:54 AM

LTC Hillary Luton — Wed, 24 Sep 2014 05:54:14 -0400

Its unfortunate that we cater to he who screams the loudest. My only question for them, did you move to this country to chase the American Dream or did you move here to live as a parasite off of the generosity of the American people?

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 24 at 2014 9:09 AM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 24 Sep 2014 09:09:21 -0400

As a muslim seeing this kind of shit is bothersome.
It is acutally allowed in Islam to eat pork if you have no option left.
People should stop feeling so entitled, beggers cant be choosers.

Response by SSG John Erny made Sep 24 at 2014 2:56 PM

SSG John Erny — Wed, 24 Sep 2014 14:56:21 -0400

Who made them better than the rest of the people suffering, Be damn thankful that Americans are Kind and willing to give to those less fortunate. This reeks of Segregation!!! and divisive element in our American Culture

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 24 at 2014 3:02 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 24 Sep 2014 15:02:14 -0400

Welcome to America. Get over yourself.

Response by Cpl Aaron Nelson made Sep 24 at 2014 5:11 PM

Cpl Aaron Nelson — Wed, 24 Sep 2014 17:11:54 -0400

Why don't mosques provide the approved food, if it's that big of an issue? Furthermore, I was always taught not to look a gift horse in the mouth, if you get free food you don't complain about it.

Response by PO1 William "Chip" Nagel made Sep 24 at 2014 9:01 PM

PO1 William "Chip" Nagel — Wed, 24 Sep 2014 21:01:20 -0400

I would join the "Outrage" parade until I checked the Source. Biz Pac Review? Give me a Break. Right Wing Political Action Committee. I give the Story Little Credibility.

Response by Cpl Chris Rice made Sep 26 at 2014 3:04 PM

Cpl Chris Rice — Fri, 26 Sep 2014 15:04:19 -0400

It is all inference that the people marching and the people utilizing the food bank are the same people. It does not give any further background on the group, and their involvement. For example my church worked with the local food bank that had some government, and some private portions to it. If my church donates money to assist, or my tax dollars go to assist the food provided should be food that I could eat in accordance with my religious beliefs. Whether that is Kosher, Halal, or Peanut Free. Even if it decided to continue to provide pork, I have every right to petition the government.

I mean didn't the whole Hobby Lobby having to provide birth control, and arguments against planned parenthood receiving government funds exist because people would not spend their money on that because of religious beliefs so the Government should not spend their money on it either?

There is not enough info, and the article is propaganda. Also I think it is another case of local politics debated by people who are not local. The situation on the ground may warrant it, or it may not.

Response by MSgt Scott Gaston made Sep 26 at 2014 7:11 PM

MSgt Scott Gaston — Fri, 26 Sep 2014 19:11:13 -0400

I've never heard of deamands made for free goods (as well as a place for it to be placed). The bank exists because people within the community donate from their own food. That having been said, if Muslims are part of the community and given what I just said, then there should be more well off Muslims donating the Hal Al items and meals as that IS PART OF THEIR DIET. Since it would be provided shelf space under those conditions, I don't see a problem with just giving those items donated by Muslims a certain section of shelving to accommodate. It's just the word of "Demanding" as in what food is provided that I have a problem with as it's up to what's provided by the community. Again, if it's taking shelf space anyway, what does it matter if that space is all together?

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 27 at 2014 4:55 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 27 Sep 2014 16:55:54 -0400

This isn't a local super market where they do have sections in food aisles for certain groups of people. This is a charity organization providing a service to those who need to supplement their groceries or whatever. Some are paid employees and some are volunteers, well the ones I know and have volunteered at, can't speak for all the other organizations.

I'll be the first to tell you I grew up poor, I did use food stamps and used supplemented child care when I had sole custody of my 4 kids while I was active duty. I dug deep and worked hard to get out of using assistance programs because I hated the stigma and I didn't want that for my kids, I wanted a better life for them. But I'll be damned I go on some news station and demand my local food bank have a latino food section because I'm mexican.

Here's the thing, you aren't entitled to make those demands!! The food is donated by the generosity of others. Here's an idea, why don't the muslim community come up with their own food bank system, like a co-op, wow there's a novel idea.

But one commenter on the article from Minneapolis wrote: "As someone who made use of the foodshelf recently, I can tell you that most of the food doesn’t contain pork. I hear what they are saying about a literacy issue, but can’t the food shelf people just point out the cans of pork and beans? Besides, the food shelf is based on donations!" Point out the cans of pork and beans?? Really?? Literacy issue??

"Political Correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end."
REAL MEN EAT HOTDOGS FROM THE SIDE

{end of rant}

Response by MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca made Sep 28 at 2014 10:00 AM

MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca — Sun, 28 Sep 2014 10:00:31 -0400

*** Warning *** Just some situational humor

The Iranian Ambassador to the UN had just finished giving a speech, and walked out into the lobby of the convention center where he was introduced to a United States Marine Corps General. As they talked, the Iranian said, "I have just one question about what I have seen in America." The General said, "Well, is there anything I can do to help?"

The Iranian whispered, "My son watches this show called 'Star Trek' and in it there is... Kirk who is Canadian, Chekhov who is Russian, Scotty who is Scottish, Uhura who is black, and Sulu who is Japanese, but there are NO Muslims. My son is very upset and doesn't understand why there aren't any Iranians, Iraqis, Afghans, Egyptians, Palestinians, Saudis, Syrians, or Pakistanis on 'Star Trek'. “

The General leaned toward the Iranian Ambassador, and whispered in his ear, "That's because it takes place in the future..."

Response by CW2 Jonathan Kantor made Sep 28 at 2014 4:50 PM

CW2 Jonathan Kantor — Sun, 28 Sep 2014 16:50:38 -0400

That's a pretty biased article that doesn't even come close to impartial journalism. Regardless, I can see them requesting that pork be separated from non-pork foods if it wasn't difficult, time-consuming, or a burden... but if not, they shouldn't expect people who are already bending over backwards to help them to... well... bend over even more. I can understand their desire to eat the foods that are customary for them to eat and avoid the foods that are considered by their faith to be unclean, but you can't expect a charity that is cash-strapped and supported principally by donations to accommodate every request imaginable. I couldn't get through the whole article... it really was written by an asshole... I don't know if they demanded as it indicated or requested. People shouldn't get all bent out of shape over a request. Demands are different of course... but like I said, I didn't bother to read the entire article.

Response by SGT Gabriel G. made Oct 23 at 2014 10:21 AM

SGT Gabriel G. — Thu, 23 Oct 2014 10:21:13 -0400

Jesus, this isn't even in our country.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 24 at 2014 2:16 AM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 24 Oct 2014 02:16:59 -0400

The food bank in question is supported by tax dollars. Some of the people who need to use the food bank are refugees who haven't yet mastered the English language. In order to help them not run afoul of their dietary restrictions, some in the community have asked that a separate shelf be set aside so that people trying to adhere to a halal diet are not accidentally eating things like pork and beans. I don’t see why the request is unreasonable, given the circumstances.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 24 at 2014 11:44 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 24 Oct 2014 23:44:25 -0400

I had about a two day long argument with a couple individuals on Facebook when I shared the article and my opinion.. Personally, I don't feel that they can come to our country and then demand that we change to suit their needs. For one, our "budget" is already basically inexistent, and I would much rather eat something that may not be part of my religion, than not eat at all.. besides, it's charity.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 25 at 2014 8:03 PM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 25 Oct 2014 20:03:56 -0400

I don't see to much wrong with this, there alot of different food stores in many diff cities.

Response by MSG Greg Kelly made Oct 26 at 2014 9:57 AM

MSG Greg Kelly — Sun, 26 Oct 2014 09:57:44 -0400

I have read story a couple times, and it is time to take a stand and say no more. Religious freedom does not mean you have the right to make everyone around you change and everyone must cater to your wishes. It means you can worship your god in your way without fear of retribution. But it also says you cannot risk the safety and welfare of the public and all reasonable curtseys will be given to all REASONABLE CURTSEYS. That does not mean hey I will join the US military knowing I have to follow the AR-670 and force the to Army to let me have beard and Turban. That does not mean I will force a free food bank of donated food for hungry people which you don't look like you are and tell them you have to treat me special because I am Muslim it does not mean I can force restaurant owners to take down signs that have been there for years because the word Bacon offends me or I have the right to attack a customer in KFC because he asks for bacon on a chicken sandwich. IT IS ENOUGH

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 26 at 2014 12:36 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 26 Oct 2014 12:36:04 -0400

Don't want to eat pork? Get a job, buy your own food.

Response by CW5 Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 26 at 2014 1:27 PM

CW5 Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 26 Oct 2014 13:27:52 -0400

I think a fair accommodation for Muslims who use the food bank would be to provide a pork-free section. Seems like the right thing to do.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 26 at 2014 1:33 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 26 Oct 2014 13:33:48 -0400

Oh man here we go, Let me break out my meme folder. Michel Jackson... NO . Chief Ramsey... No. Ah Ill just say this discussion is about to get real.

Response by PO1 Phil Audritsh made Oct 26 at 2014 2:17 PM

PO1 Phil Audritsh — Sun, 26 Oct 2014 14:17:33 -0400

It's to help you and your family. Survival is more important than political correctness.

Response by SGT Michael Glenn made Oct 30 at 2014 4:19 PM

SGT Michael Glenn — Thu, 30 Oct 2014 16:19:26 -0400

Really???? they have this right too??? so do they want a food bank all by them selves ?? are they concerned about being in the immediate vicinity of foods that will strike them dead if they get too close??? can they not just walk ignorantly by the pork section like they ignorantly walk by people on the streets eating pork??? will this lead to food chains having to build a separate location for them to dine in as well as restaurants?? will tv have to change their broadcasts??/ will movies have to rewrite scripts??? will this bullshit ever end???ONLY IN AMERICA...ONLY IN AMERICA.

Response by CPT Zachary Brooks made Oct 31 at 2014 2:20 PM

CPT Zachary Brooks — Fri, 31 Oct 2014 14:20:38 -0400

http://www.khou.com/story/news/local/2014/07/25/12525186/

And I should have sympathy why?

Its charity, and its in this country. Go back to the country your family hails from if you hate it here so much!

Man says apartment complex called his US flag a ‘threat to Muslim community’

Response by SSG Ronald Rollins made Nov 1 at 2014 2:16 PM

SSG Ronald Rollins — Sat, 01 Nov 2014 14:16:59 -0400

It is food that is given to you for free. Be happy you are getting something to eat!! If you dont like it dont get it. Get a job and buy your own food. You came to the country you are in for a reason. You were not asked to come. Take what you get if you are to lazy or in this case illiterate (your own words not mine) and cant get a job. It is not our job to support you or your religious preferences.

Response by Lt Col Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 20 at 2014 11:06 AM

Lt Col Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 20 Nov 2014 11:06:28 -0500

Well, I feel like there's more than one right answer here. I don't think there needs to be a Muslim section of a food bank...how hard is it to just not pick up the items you don't want? I also thing it is conservative propaganda.

Response by SGT(P) Harry Clyde Jr. made Nov 20 at 2014 1:27 PM

SGT(P) Harry Clyde Jr. — Thu, 20 Nov 2014 13:27:11 -0500

Nothing against Muslims, but it seems lately that some muslims in this country, i reiterate some, are demanding more and more of what they want per their religious laws, rites etc. This heavy sense of entitlement disturbs me.
We have food banks here in columbus that cater to all that need it. Its a matter of what gets donated. Beggars can't be choosers.
During Desert Storm and after we fed many hungry Iraqi soldiers. I recall just after the cease fire stopping and searching an Iraqi vehicle. The two men, one a Colonel the other was his sergeant driver, they had ids, the colonel said they were very hungry. Knowing they were muslim, I informed him all I had in the truck was mres with pork in them. He stated he didnt care since he had not eaten in Aday or so. I handed him . And his driver two MREs each. They were very grateful to the point where the colonel was tearing up. We sent them on their way.
We are all human in war, and in peace, enemy or not , no one should go hungry. I truly believe that. But to demand your own section of food from a charity is ludicrous and disrespectful to those who are kind and giving. When hungry and going to a food bank your entitlement ends there.
My two friggin bits!!

Response by COL Roxanne Arndt made Nov 22 at 2014 11:00 AM

COL Roxanne Arndt — Sat, 22 Nov 2014 11:00:39 -0500

What the h***. Get something for nothing but now be picky about the what you get your free. I'm so sick of religious rights.....What about my rights? I work and pay taxes but yet I can't take a bible with me when I deploy or send a bible to a soldier because it violates Muslims? Well demanding special treatment because of a religious preference makes me sick. Next time I go into a restaurant I'm going ask the people who sit next to me what their religion is and if it's not Lutheran I'm going to demand another table. such BS......

Response by PO2 Corey Ferretti made Nov 22 at 2014 11:58 AM

PO2 Corey Ferretti — Sat, 22 Nov 2014 11:58:41 -0500

If i was not allowed to have pork but it was between feeding my family and starving i would say sorry and eat pork. So we are to start to cater to people after we offer them a service because they are low income.

Response by SSG (ret) William Martin made Nov 22 at 2014 11:41 PM

SSG (ret) William Martin — Sat, 22 Nov 2014 23:41:28 -0500

How much would it cost to have a special shelf marked "no pork products" and of course, food donations for Muslims friendly items are free. Would it be cruel for me to tell them if they don't like it, get a job or don't take donations from that establishment?

Response by Sgt Packy Flickinger made Nov 23 at 2014 12:33 AM

Sgt Packy Flickinger — Sun, 23 Nov 2014 00:33:47 -0500

Since it is against Sharia law to accept charity, that simply means these Muslims are not good Muslims. I find the article to by very funny. Not in a haha way. Everybody loves a good hypocrite.

That is assuming the story is true

Response by 1SG Michael Blount made Dec 16 at 2014 1:16 PM

1SG Michael Blount — Tue, 16 Dec 2014 13:16:26 -0500

This is the land of the free, NOT the free-loader!

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 16 at 2015 12:13 AM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 16 Jan 2015 00:13:57 -0500

"Food bank donor demands Muslims with too much time on their hands look for better employment instead of wasting time on pointless protests."

(c)2015 - First Sergeant News Press

Don't you just love "outrage" over non-issues?

Response by Maj John Bell made Jun 9 at 2016 7:55 PM

Maj John Bell — Thu, 09 Jun 2016 19:55:40 -0400

When did people stop taking responsibility for themselves. If they are unable to read a food label, they should contact someone within their Mosque to help.