Posted on Mar 30, 2016
My Grandson recently joined the Army. He failed his two mile run by 30 sec and the Army has sent him home for six months. Why?
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Sir, I agree with many of the comments here about you probably not receiving the whole story. I have been in the Army for a couple of days now and have never heard of something like that happening. If a trainee fails to meet the standard I have a hard time believing that the Soldier would be sent home for 6 months. He would have remained there and been put in a physical fitness unit to improve his performance or discharged.
If you want to get to the bottom of this I would recommend you call the unit First Sergeant or Command Sergeant Major and simply ask what is going on. Explain to them the information your grandson gave you and then see what they have to say.
If you want to get to the bottom of this I would recommend you call the unit First Sergeant or Command Sergeant Major and simply ask what is going on. Explain to them the information your grandson gave you and then see what they have to say.
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MSG (Join to see)
are there discipline problems, are there the ever growing entitlement problems the military life is not for everyone
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SSG (Join to see)
I have worked BCT missions as support in the past and I never seen a trainee sent home for failing a PT test. Usually if this is their final PT test and they have not passed an event they get moved to a special unit that helps them improve on that event and overall PT but that was some time ago. I would assume their is a medical issue involved or something.
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MSG Leonard Olson
Hard to be this,need to get it from the horses mouth, drill sgt,as a senior nco,I developed subordinates, new all their weaknesses and strengths, if you failed, dust yourself off,endure the pain and smartly move out, rock of the marne,
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First of all I would like to thank everyone for their comments, my grandson has wanted to join the army since he was very young child and he is no slacker like many of our young people today, he is very upset that he was sent home and you are correct , I have not had the opportunity to speak with him directly about this so I'm sure I don't have the whole story as yet. I got this information from his mother so details were a little sketchy, but I can assure you he is not the type to take his responsibilities and duties lightly. obviously there is something else going on here and once I have had the opportunity to talk with him directly I will get to the bottom of it. He comes from a family with a strong military background and right now I think he is just too discouraged to talk with me about it because he thinks I will be disappointed in him and that is certainly not the case. We are extremely proud of the young man he has become.
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our children never give the whole storey so press on and most parents believe what their child tells them you've been there done that so its up to you make the dissision
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1SG Britt Smith
I concur, the young man has been sent home, DD 214 in hand with the R3 reentry code. A 30 second failure on the run is not even close enough to send a basic recruit packing. There is more to the story than has been so far disclosed.
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1LT (Join to see)
Honestly I would have to say that you may just have to tell him how proud you are of him. Sometimes it can help young Soldiers swallow their pride or accept help. Let him know that you want to help him and see what the two of you can put together as a team. He may surprise you.
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Most likely he has been an entry level separation and discharged with an RE code 3 (Re-Entry). Even medical issues/injuries in Initial Entry Training that have an extended recovery time will result in discharge. Depending on the separation code, an RE code 3 usually means that the person can re-apply for enlistment 6 or 12 months after discharge, provided the condition for separation no longer exists, and a RE-Code waiver is granted by the service in which applying for. When they out process the training base and have the DD214 explained to them, they are usually told that the RE 3 code means that they can come back in after a waiting period. Pretty sure that is where the "re-try in 6 months" is coming from. I know this from experience as an Army recruiter, as we are who they have to see in 6 or 12 months if they want back in. Depending on the nature of separation, getting an RE code waiver approved can be difficult. Also, given the current posture of the recruiting mission, RE code waivers on prior service may not even be considered, period. As others have mentioned, best to get the Paul Harvey on this and go from there.
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TSgt Robert Belcher
Thank you for a very informative response, since I will be seeing him this weekend you have given me some very detailed information I can use when discussing this issue with him, as they say "information is key and knowledge is power" I have no doubt this will help me ge to the bottom of the matter. Thank you for your assistance.
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SFC Jonathan Surprise
I agree, I saw a lot of this in in 93 and about to years ago I had to send a Soldier home for failing 2 consecutive APFTs. The Soldier had the RE code 3.
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SFC Curtis Halford (Ret)
Sec Fullerton gave a pretty good answer assuming those are the actual facts. The two points that need clarification are 1) RE-3 waivers require that you prove you have overcome the reason for disqualification. There is a time factor (the wait period) but the Soldier would also have to prove he could pass the entire PT test, given to Army Standard. Could be complicated slightly due to the new Army PT test and equipment/testing availability. 2) While I concur with SFC F that it would be difficult to get a waiver for a Prior Service member, it is important to note that the large majority of trainees who are discharged from Initial Entry Training are discharged under Chapter 11, AR 635-200. If that is the case, and if the DD-214 reflects less than 180 days of active service, then the Soldier is not PS, but is instead a Glossary Non-prior Service. Not all Prior Service Business rules apply in that case. These rules change periodically (last update 19FEB2019) and will likely be updated again before your Soldier will be eligible for a waiver. It won't be a simple or cut and dry matter to enlist again, but there is a fair chance the disqualification could be overcome. (Based on 4.5 years recruiting and 11 years as an Army Career Counselor.)
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