How does my time in the NG impact my AD pay grade and my time in service?

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 04 Oct 2023 18:38:29 -0400

Hello everyone,

I had a few questions that I wasn’t sure of the answer and my unit is saying things that is only adding to my confusion.

For a little background information. I served 6 years in the national guard and am now active.

1. On my LES it says 6 years of service. My pay grade is E4. Is this correct or am I being overpaid?

2. When I go up for promotions do I count the 72 months of TIS I earned from the guard?

EX) Primary Zone — Board appearance at 34 months TIS and six months TIG as an E-4.

From my understanding I would be at my Primary zone as long as I reach whatever amount of months for TIG because I have completed my TIS?

3. Do I still wear two service stripes?

When I read the regulation I was under the impression that I do, but I am kinda confused.

I would appreciate any and all help. If there is any good regulations to look over those would be helpful as well.

Thank you.

Response by COL Randall C. made Oct 4 at 2023 11:34 PM

COL Randall C. — Wed, 04 Oct 2023 23:34:29 -0400

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SPC Private RallyPoint Member, for pay purposes, it doesn't matter which component (Active, National Guard, or USAR) you entered the service in - the Pay Entry Base Date (PEBD) will be the same as long as you didn't have a break in service, lost time, etc. This is what is on your LES. When you came onto active duty, they should have recalculated your PEBD if you DID have any time that didn't count and would have adjusted your PEBD.

When you enter active duty, your Basic active service date (BASD) is recomputed using all previous active duty time. This date is important to you because when you go from RC to AC your TIS will be recomputed from your adjusted BASD (RC does TIS from PEBD) - AR 600-8-19, Para 1-15.

Your TIG will remain the same assuming you are going from the RC to AC without a break long enough to trigger one of the exceptions listed in AR 600-8-19, Para 1-14a(4)(b).

For your service stripes - yes, you would wear two. Again, assuming your PEBD is accurate, then your combined National Guard and Active Duty time is over six years.
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* AR 600-8-19 - https://armypubs.army.mil/epubs/DR_pubs/DR_a/pdf/web/ARN17424_R600_8_19_Admin_FINAL.pdf
* AR 670-1 - https://armypubs.army.mil/epubs/DR_pubs/DR_a/ARN30302-AR_670-1-000-WEB-1.pdf
* AR 637-1 - https://armypubs.army.mil/epubs/DR_pubs/DR_a/ARN34387-AR_637-1-001-WEB-3.pdf

ARN17424_R600_8_19_Admin_FINAL.pdf

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 6 at 2023 2:20 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 06 Oct 2023 14:20:14 -0400

I did the same thing but with one more step. I was in the Regular Army then I did 10 years in the guard before I went back to the Regular Army. It is a bit of an issue for your records. So you will have a PEBD and a BASD. Your years of service for pay is based off when you first joined, PEBD. Now, when it comes to your retirement that's a different story. Your years of service and years for pay are never going to be the same. I was given an adjusted BASD to recalculate my retirement date. I joined in June 2000. With my two breaks in service they calculated my active days from all of my service and that is how they figured out my new BASD. So my pay is at 22 years but I have 16.5 years of active service. All of those years that were not active still count for service awards.