Navy New Advancement: Is there hope?

PO3 Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 27 Jul 2014 08:41:51 -0400

With advancement coming around the corner, i looked at the new advancement computing formula. I realized that since the maximum PMA point you can earn going into an exam is 64 with an EP, and 48 with an MP.
Assuming that I can max out my SS score of 80 (almost impossible) and with an MP, no awards, 2 points of education, 1.5 points for PNA. The maximum i can earn is 132.5 .

Facts: for the past two years, the FMS cut off has been 150-155. The quotas decreases at least 2-3% each cycle.

The question is, how should i prepare when the odds are way out of my favors?

Im actually starting to resent my rating. There is just way too many people. It affects the quotas. It is puzzling to me why the advancement rate for IT3 is 100% but 11% for HM3.

Thanks in advance for any input.

V/R
HN

Response by PO3 Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 27 at 2014 11:38 AM

PO3 Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 27 Jul 2014 11:38:10 -0400

previously the FMS was out of 214 points.. now its only 177 there of it would take less than 150 points. an mp and a good score should do the trick

Response by CMDCM Gene Treants made Jul 27 at 2014 2:09 PM

CMDCM Gene Treants — Sun, 27 Jul 2014 14:09:59 -0400

PO3 Private RallyPoint Member The first question I have to ask is SN or HN. If the answer is HN then the problem is that you are in a rating where so many are coming out of school as Third Class Petty Officers you are fighting a very difficult battle. You really have to have awards or Pass, NOt Advanced points to get your scores up to the magic cutoff. Yes, you need to get the test score as high as possible and 80 is NOT impossible, but extremely difficult; study your butt off.

IT3 is at 100% and HM3 is at 11% because advancements are vacancy driven. The Navy has a shortage or IT personnel at the E-4 level and an abundance of HN at the same paygrade. It is as simple as that, no secret. Things change from year to year, just not as rapidly as you need them to change.

Have you spoken with your LPO, Leading Chief, or more importantly your Command Career Counselor to see if you are maximizing your chances for advancement? It looks like you are fairly fresh out of HN School School so a crossrate is not possible, even if you wanted to do so. Your choice for your BA, are you sure this is a good one for advancement? Just a couple rhetorical questions for you to consider.

Best of luck Shipmate.

Response by PO1 David Richardson made Dec 10 at 2015 4:34 PM

PO1 David Richardson — Thu, 10 Dec 2015 16:34:07 -0500

A standard score of 80 isn't impossible (it's difficult but not impossible, I cut a 78 on PO1 my third time around and made it by only 5 points - we rated 35 in my rating that year - FMS to advance was 213 If i'm not mistaken).

The first time I took PO1, I scored a 70, even with an 80 I would have PNA'd. Sometimes it takes time when your rating is stuck. Sustained superior performance was the mantra when I was in. Keep it up and don't let it get you down. Oh and Bravo Zulu to you young sailor for having a plan laid out!!!! I wish I could have said that in my earlier years!!!