NCOs, do you think the discipline level is lower in the Army today?

2015-09-12T20:48:49-04:00

Do we require our Soldiers to stand at parade rest anymore. Do we set the example of what right looks like. Are we enforcing standards and discipline?

Response by CPL Randy Bautista made Sep 12 at 2015 8:55 PM

2015-09-12T20:55:45-04:00

I say it depends where you are. But in general standard across the army is lacking

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 12 at 2015 9:02 PM

2015-09-12T21:02:52-04:00

I find myself correcting NCOs more and more. I can say that at times I wonder what the heck is wrong with NCOs these days and the answer is us. We are the Senior Leaders who must lead by example and correct indiscipline. Coach, Teach and Mentor! Don’t allow mediocre performance and training. Instill pride in those we supervise and train. We can and must make a difference.

Response by SGT Scott Bell made Sep 19 at 2015 8:23 PM

2015-09-19T20:23:42-04:00

Yes

Response by MSG Greg Kelly made Sep 20 at 2015 6:34 AM

2015-09-20T06:34:43-04:00

yes

Response by 1SG Michael Blount made Mar 28 at 2016 9:32 AM

2016-03-28T09:32:40-04:00

Indeed I do. This slackened attitude starts in IET/BCT where Drill Sergeants' hands are tied behind their backs and TRADOC is concerned only about quantity vs quality of "Soldiers" graduated. It only gets worse from there.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 28 at 2016 10:55 AM

2016-07-28T10:55:22-04:00

yes

Response by SGT Jeffrey Dennis made Mar 25 at 2018 8:43 PM

2018-03-25T20:43:05-04:00

I believe so. Ive been out 10 years and I can really tell a difference.

Response by CPL Linda B. made Nov 1 at 2019 6:13 PM

2019-11-01T18:13:35-04:00

Maybe the training soldiers need to be reminded that you're doing them a favor because you're training them for war not to be a civilian anymore.
And the ability to follow orders and work with your fellow soldiers is part of what it takes to survive.
I remember my drill sergeant giving us a pep talk about not following orders and how it can cost a lot of people's lives if you don't do what you're supposed to do.

Response by CW4 Robert Mixon made Feb 18 at 2020 3:12 PM

2020-02-18T15:12:56-05:00

(Modern volunteer army) To keep a lot of the volunteers we gave up and lower What we required of the troops. Discipline went first most of my service has 50 % drafted they had a gripe but wanted out to keep volunteers had to be nice and say please. The company was a unit deployed as a unit and we all came home from deployment togeather.piss and gripe Vietnam and transfer to the modern volunteer super trooper army. Had a hell of a job making it all work don't know if you can best of luck because full-time combat is More than most can take without some downtime looking forward to 20 years is to a lot. By the way, I was RIF after 15 years just ( a little Pissed) go on you one way we don't need you. And Bush starter one more war I was asked if I would like some more fun with most of the troops that had never heard a shot fired in anger quick rebuild another trained military. I HAVE PARADED RETIREMENT FOR A PFC WITH 20 YEAR IN-SERVICE SEVERAL TIMES Just think A RIF is coming to just retire after 5 years or collect socials security