Posted on Sep 6, 2015
Need some time on the range? Police Fire 84 Shots At Man And Miss 83 Times. How can that be?
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Situation is it is after sunset.....cars along the sides of the street.....suspect seeking cover.....he is firing at the Law Enforcement Officers.....what could have been done differently? Is there cause for alarm? Do our Law Enforcement Officers need more time on the range? Are these guys operating with expired qualifications? I can already imagine the jokes and memes heading their way! Share your best!
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How in the actual f@ck can ANYONE fire 84 shots and miss 83 times? They should all be put on a desk until they get right! That is 83 chances of something REALLY bad happening to some innocent bystander...SMH!
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I am by no means an expert with a pistol but I do own a few. I have found that the time honored M-1911 more accurate and controllable than some of the "modern" light weight side arms. With a 1911 I can get pretty close to where I want the round every time. With my XD single stack 9MM 3.3” barreled sidearm I find myself missing the mark until I put some rounds through it.
I saw a show on the Military channel and it was 1911 VS. the 9MM Beretta military issue sidearm. Both weapons were used by retired special operations types. They went through the same course but with standard issue magazines for the weapons, 7 rounds for the 1911 and I think it was 15 for the 9MM. The 1911 got far more 1st time hits and did not run out of rounds.
I have known law enforcement officers that flat refused to give up their police issue revolvers for semi-automatic pistols because they felt the revolver to be more accurate than the semi-automatic. This has been a few years back mind you.
I have seen hunters take single shot, double barrel, pump and semi-auto shotguns bird hunting. It seems to me that the guys with the semi-autos tend to shoot a lot, miss a lot, scare off the game, and make a lot of noise. Folks with the slower shooting weapons take their time and make each shot count.
So what is my point behind this? Just because you have the rounds to expend does not mean that you need to. For those of us old enough to remember the M-16 with the full auto switch know why it was removed and replaced with the three round burst. Most people cannot fire rapidly and maintain a consistent group. Add the stress of a fire fight and a surge of adrenaline in your blood which raises your heart rate and respiration and the problem compounds itself. Someone is going to say it is “suppression fire” so I will beat them to it. So we want to have peace officers using suppression fie in our communities, I for one do not.
I saw a show on the Military channel and it was 1911 VS. the 9MM Beretta military issue sidearm. Both weapons were used by retired special operations types. They went through the same course but with standard issue magazines for the weapons, 7 rounds for the 1911 and I think it was 15 for the 9MM. The 1911 got far more 1st time hits and did not run out of rounds.
I have known law enforcement officers that flat refused to give up their police issue revolvers for semi-automatic pistols because they felt the revolver to be more accurate than the semi-automatic. This has been a few years back mind you.
I have seen hunters take single shot, double barrel, pump and semi-auto shotguns bird hunting. It seems to me that the guys with the semi-autos tend to shoot a lot, miss a lot, scare off the game, and make a lot of noise. Folks with the slower shooting weapons take their time and make each shot count.
So what is my point behind this? Just because you have the rounds to expend does not mean that you need to. For those of us old enough to remember the M-16 with the full auto switch know why it was removed and replaced with the three round burst. Most people cannot fire rapidly and maintain a consistent group. Add the stress of a fire fight and a surge of adrenaline in your blood which raises your heart rate and respiration and the problem compounds itself. Someone is going to say it is “suppression fire” so I will beat them to it. So we want to have peace officers using suppression fie in our communities, I for one do not.
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CSM Charles Hayden
SSgt Alexander Robinson, the only military members satisfied w/ their range time could be: SEAL 6, Delta and ___________ ? Comments pls ______.
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