Never received PCS award...help please

1LT Jonathan Cowan — Thu, 28 May 2015 14:51:46 -0400

I served 8 years in the Army and was honorably discharged in 2010... I am currently going back in OCS... I never received my PCS award however I have verified that it was approved and was completed. contacted my unit but 5 years removed they have no recollection...anybody know how I can get it for my DD214 before coming back in.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made May 28 at 2015 2:55 PM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 28 May 2015 14:55:08 -0400

Is the awarded uploaded to your OMPF. Also if you have permitted award number and you provided that to your old S-1 they should be able to recreate the award

Response by CW2(P) Private RallyPoint Member made May 28 at 2015 2:55 PM

CW2(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 28 May 2015 14:55:10 -0400

Is your IPERMs still active? They may have sent it there.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made May 28 at 2015 2:56 PM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 28 May 2015 14:56:32 -0400

I believe that if you don't have a copy of the award there's nothing you can do. I would go back to the source that stated it was approved and see if you can get a copy and go from there.

Response by 1LT Jonathan Cowan made May 28 at 2015 2:57 PM

1LT Jonathan Cowan — Thu, 28 May 2015 14:57:54 -0400

Checked OMPF and nothing...Iperms I do not have access, I am still in contact with my old PLT SGT and he verified that it was awarded, but it was after I ETSd (Aviation BDE...) I have no number or anything... Have a feeling im SOL on this one...

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made May 28 at 2015 3:00 PM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 28 May 2015 15:00:19 -0400

I work in S1 and by regulation a soldiers records can only be held for two years after they ETS/PCS or transfered to the soldiers new unit. But if they don't have it you can check with the installations archive center. The units S1 should be able to give you a contact number. But if they do have it its going to take time for them to find it.

Response by CW5 Private RallyPoint Member made May 28 at 2015 4:19 PM

CW5 Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 28 May 2015 16:19:43 -0400

When I was acting 1SG while preparing to PCS and the unit deployed to NTC, I had a small crew of clerks (pregnant, new to unit, profiles, etc) that I asked to go through the Orderly Room desks. There was a lot of stuff not filed, incomplete forms, trash, etc that had to be dealt with. One drawer had PCS/ETS awards that were never presented. I contacted the people that I could and mailed them their awards. Some were five years overdue.

Go ask the unit. Maybe the paperwork is still there.

Response by COL Charles Williams made May 29 at 2015 12:50 AM

COL Charles Williams — Fri, 29 May 2015 00:50:48 -0400

I have had similar issues... Unfortunately if you have no copy of the certificate, nor does the unit, or HRC... It effectively does not exist.

If it was in fact completed, it should be at HRC. You should contact them, or the National Records Center in STL and request a copy of your records. If it exists, it will be in STL.

http://www.archives.gov/st-louis/military-personnel/

Military Personnel Records

Information about Military Personnel Records at the National Archives facility in St. Louis, Missouri

Response by SSG Everett Wilson made May 29 at 2015 3:14 PM

SSG Everett Wilson — Fri, 29 May 2015 15:14:14 -0400

To get a copy of your DD214 write to St Lewis. You can mail or fax your signed and dated request to the National Archives' National Personnel Record Center (NPRC). Most, but not all records, are stored at the NPRC. Be sure to use the address specified by eVetRecs or the instructions on the SF-180. Locations of Military Service Records.
NPRC Fax Number :
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NPRC Mailing Address:
National Personnel Records Center
Military Personnel Records
1 Archives Drive
St. Louis, MO 63138
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Please note that requests which are sent by Priority Mail, FedEx, UPS, or other "express" services will only arrive at the NPRC sooner. They will not be processed any faster than standard requests. See the section above on emergency requests and deadlines.

It will take about 6 month.

I'm in the same boat as you. Retired from the National Guard, since I was a M-day soldier and under the rank of E7, I was told that the State does not recognize the service-retirement of M-day soldiers. The individual who brought my Retirement orders over slowed down long enough to throw my retirement orders out on the curb. I have tried the unit and my regimental headquarters with on luck. The TAG has not responded.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 5 at 2015 1:33 PM

SSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 05 Jun 2015 13:33:33 -0400

What is a PCS award? To my knowledge, awards are all done electronically. If it was approved your admin should be able to look it up in the system.

Response by SFC Luis Rodriguez made Jan 23 at 2016 12:25 PM

SFC Luis Rodriguez — Sat, 23 Jan 2016 12:25:59 -0500

Welcome to my world while on an active duty no PCS or Retired award you will ok

Response by SGT James Colbert made Jun 7 at 2016 11:26 AM

SGT James Colbert — Tue, 07 Jun 2016 11:26:56 -0400

HRC Fort Knox Ky andblookbinto your records..they might be able to find them

Response by LTC Jason Mackay made Mar 23 at 2018 12:18 AM

LTC Jason Mackay — Fri, 23 Mar 2018 00:18:12 -0400

The headquarters that issued the award has the permanent orders (the back side of the 638). You need to tell them when it would have been issued and who the signature authority was. If it was Ann ARCOM, then the Brigade would have it. If they deactivated, the records pass to the next higher HQ. Did you do an SF180?

Response by SGM Bill Frazer made Mar 24 at 2018 5:57 AM

SGM Bill Frazer — Sat, 24 Mar 2018 05:57:42 -0400

Without orders or a certificate (normally shows the orders #) it will damn near impossible.