New units in RP compared to old units that are no longer active

SSG Laureano Pabon — Sat, 14 Dec 2013 13:58:08 -0500

I find that as a veteran I have a hard time writing exact units,

Example: I was in HHC 1/3 ACR in Ft Bliss, but it shows as something different

as shown in the image I posted.

kind of makes it hard for me to appear honest when the unit I served with has moved locations to some other state since my time.

Much worse is if current members assume I was in their unit in the new location :)

I thought I post this to see if any one seen the same thing.

This is not a report to RP, rather just a general thing I thought I mention.

was wondering how todays ARMY SM feel about this....

Response by 1SG Steven Stankovich made Dec 14 at 2013 2:23 PM

1SG Steven Stankovich — Sat, 14 Dec 2013 14:23:13 -0500

I am tracking some of the same things. Some of the units I served with earlier in my career have either deactivated, re-flagged to a different unit, moved installations, etc. It is difficult to keep track of all the changes.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 14 at 2013 2:59 PM

SSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 14 Dec 2013 14:59:12 -0500

That is a huge problem because as I do research on old units for Together We Served, I have to go to extreme measures it seems to find out where Det 2, 31WS is and so on.

Response by PO1 Thomas B. made Dec 14 at 2013 7:49 PM

PO1 Thomas B. — Sat, 14 Dec 2013 19:49:42 -0500

Most decommissioned Naval ships are not even available for selection, let alone associated to any of the home ports they may have been in. I'm sure the same goes for shore units.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 7 at 2014 9:35 AM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 07 Jan 2014 09:35:22 -0500

I had asked this question to RP's suggestion page back in September. MAJ Weiss responded with "Previous units is much more daunting, but we are adding more every day."

Response by SGT Ben Keen made Jan 7 at 2014 9:56 AM

SGT Ben Keen — Tue, 07 Jan 2014 09:56:48 -0500

Just keep in mind, this site is still very much in an on-going development state. The team working behind the scenes are striving to make this a top-notch site for us to connect with others and personally I think they are doing a great job. I did see the same thing when I put in my unit in Germany. While the location was correct the patch wasn't. I don't think this says anything about your integrity; just shows that the site still has some hurdles to cross.

Response by SGM Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 19 at 2014 8:57 PM

SGM Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 19 Jan 2014 20:57:03 -0500

It makes it harder to find Soldiers in your old units when your old units don't show up. I think there should be an option where someone can create an old disbanded unit and have others approve the name then make it permanent.

Response by Lt Col Luis A. Rojas made Jan 19 at 2014 9:22 PM

Lt Col Luis A. Rojas — Sun, 19 Jan 2014 21:22:46 -0500

Yes, I've come across the same issue. Since Minuteman II ICBMs have been deactivated, the unit I was assigned to in the late 80s no longer exist.

Response by LTC Jason Mackay made Jan 19 at 2014 9:33 PM

LTC Jason Mackay — Sun, 19 Jan 2014 21:33:30 -0500

The two companies I commanded no longer exist, guess I was the black widow. I clicked on the feedback tab after looking at the FAQ section. I laid out the unit chain, example: 95 Maint CO TMDE, Aviation and Missile Command, AMC at Redstone arsenal, al. Also told them which shoulder sleeve insignia to put with it. RP staff fixed it in 24 hrs.

Response by CPT Aaron Kletzing made Jan 20 at 2014 3:25 PM

CPT Aaron Kletzing — Mon, 20 Jan 2014 15:25:34 -0500

Hi everyone, we certainly recognize that the DoD's task organization is an ever-changing body. In fact, I would argue that no one actually knows 100% of the DoD's task org going back to the earliest days of the US military -- not even the Pentagon. As RallyPoint initially started as being for actively-serving members only, we're continuing to work hard to address the missing/inactive units that you all bring to our attention. If you have feedback on any units like this, feel free to email [login to see] and we'll try to get it squared away. :)

Response by CPT Aaron Kletzing made Jan 20 at 2014 3:26 PM

CPT Aaron Kletzing — Mon, 20 Jan 2014 15:26:53 -0500

PS -- Detachments are a beast to deal with. There isn't a human being or computer on planet earth that actually knows where all the detachments are at a given moment -- not even CJCS.

Response by SFC William Swartz Jr made Mar 10 at 2014 7:15 PM

SFC William Swartz Jr — Mon, 10 Mar 2014 19:15:39 -0400

I had the same issue with a few of my first duty assignments, my first unit, 2-77 AR no longer active, so even though I put in all the info for it will not show the 4th ID patch; for the 11th ACR, I have to input the info for D Co 1/11th Fulda, Germany and it still puts up NTC but I can live with it as it allows me to input the right info.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 28 at 2014 9:53 AM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 28 Mar 2014 09:53:35 -0400

I have the same problem. HMM-165 is now VMM-165 and located at MCAS Miramar rather than the now close MCAS El Toro.

Response by SSgt David Norcutt made Mar 28 at 2014 4:57 PM

SSgt David Norcutt — Fri, 28 Mar 2014 16:57:41 -0400

I had four duty assignments in my time. Three of the four no longer exist, Bitburg AB, Kelly AFB and Hahn AB. The only surviving base is Nellis AFB. However the unit designation changed. Heck, even the the career field changed!

Response by SFC Daniel Alcivar made Apr 6 at 2014 8:30 PM

SFC Daniel Alcivar — Sun, 06 Apr 2014 20:30:30 -0400

I feel the same way some of my units designations have been changed with the New Army. I served from 74 to 76 in Germany can't find my old unit. from 78 to 98 the same

Response by PO1 William "Chip" Nagel made Apr 6 at 2014 8:40 PM

PO1 William "Chip" Nagel — Sun, 06 Apr 2014 20:40:55 -0400

Preaching to the Choir, SSG Know exactly what you are talking about. Served on 2 Nuclear Cruisers, They have been decommisioned and the names assigned to Submarines. When I was in CINCPACFLT and PACOM were different commands now they are one joint command it appears here. I retired from the Naval Security Group (Navy Spook) They Disestablished the Naval Security Group so there is no sign of them here (As a Navy Spook everything we do is smoke and mirrors needless to say they are still there and still here but under other names now). Also we returned 7 North Audley St (Ike's old HQ) back to the brits after I left so no mention of Naval Communications Unit London. Also I was Master at Arms to COMSPAWARSYSCOM Washington DC. Now COMSPAWARSYSCOM HQ is in California. Makes my head spin.

Response by SSG Peter Muse made Nov 29 at 2014 3:41 PM

SSG Peter Muse — Sat, 29 Nov 2014 15:41:29 -0500

I thought I would find many more responses and add-on questions to this post. All of my former units have moved, realigned, renamed or deactivated over the years and I don't really feel affiliated with the current or listed organizational structures. I spent most of my years in Europe where most of the units were actually forward deployed elements of larger regiments and others remained in Europe following the war and stayed there until they deactivated. Many deployed from Germany to Korea or even Vietnam and returned to Europe. So many different possibilities and I understand it but I would like to have the right patch with the right unit in the city under the command I served.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 29 at 2014 4:09 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 29 Nov 2014 16:09:33 -0500

And to add to all the confusion...I just was made aware that the 82nd Airborne Division is no longer going to be a true airborne unit. They are becoming like the 101st. It is a sad day in our history to see this change taking place.

Response by SFC Mark Merino made Nov 29 at 2014 4:13 PM

SFC Mark Merino — Sat, 29 Nov 2014 16:13:12 -0500

I was accused of stolen valor once when I talked about being in the 3rd ID in Germany. "I was in 2/15 INF" ""THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE A 2nd BN!!!!!!".............calm down, junior. The Army has been around long before you became Yoda (all wise, and all-knowing). 1/52 INF was at NTC before they became 2/11 ACR. The Army used to have OH-58D units that were Attack (Not CAV), weapons systems change, MOS's die out, KIOWAS GET RETIRED FROM INVENTORY (tear), and us old farts get to remember the "good old days."

Response by Cpl Dennis F. made Nov 29 at 2014 6:38 PM

Cpl Dennis F. — Sat, 29 Nov 2014 18:38:29 -0500

Not only is my unit selection limited, but also my MOS and the equipment that I operated.
I had to make my corrections down in the deployments section of my profile. I was recently asked about operating M1As in Vietnam, because that is all that RP will display.

I was 1st Tanks, 1st Mar. Div. FMFWesPac, Danang RVN, NOT 1st Tanks, 1st MEF. now at 29 Palms.
My MOS was 1811 Tank crewman, now listed as something else.
My vehicle was a M48a3 Patton NOT M1A Abrams tank.
Pretty confusing all in all.

Response by SPC Scott Hodges made Dec 4 at 2014 1:33 PM

SPC Scott Hodges — Thu, 04 Dec 2014 13:33:47 -0500

the unit that i served at in germany has been deactivated now people think im not telling the truth d 3/61 ada