Posted on Apr 23, 2015
Nonsubdued Unit Patches on Army Utilities. What are your thoughts?
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With the elimination of the Dress Green Uniform nonsubdued patches and the heraldric tradition that goes with them will be further pushed from the forefront of our soldiers minds and uniforms.
I propose that whenever the nonsubdued US Flag is worn on utility uniforms that nonsubdued unit patches be worn also. When a subdued US Flag is worn then subdued unit patches be worn. This would be for both current unit and combat patches. What do you all think?
(Addded clarification as to why I propose this, added 4 May 2015)
I propose this as a less painful alternative to many other suggestions I have heard about. For example, some would have us wearing Class Bs if we were not doing something tactical. I would rather foot the bill for a colored patch and be able to launder my daily uniform at home than have to pay a hefty weekly bill for dry-cleaning of the Bs, not to mention buying more shirts and pants to last the week. I apologize for not having added this from the beginning as, IMHO, I believe it makes my suggestion a bit more reasonable.
I propose that whenever the nonsubdued US Flag is worn on utility uniforms that nonsubdued unit patches be worn also. When a subdued US Flag is worn then subdued unit patches be worn. This would be for both current unit and combat patches. What do you all think?
(Addded clarification as to why I propose this, added 4 May 2015)
I propose this as a less painful alternative to many other suggestions I have heard about. For example, some would have us wearing Class Bs if we were not doing something tactical. I would rather foot the bill for a colored patch and be able to launder my daily uniform at home than have to pay a hefty weekly bill for dry-cleaning of the Bs, not to mention buying more shirts and pants to last the week. I apologize for not having added this from the beginning as, IMHO, I believe it makes my suggestion a bit more reasonable.
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The Army can barely afford to supply Soldiers with one patch when they arrive at a unit, why would we wear different color patches? We wore subdued patches on the BDUs unless you were special and in the 1st ID and deployed.
This idea would just add to the improper wear of the uniform since the majority of Soldiers have a hard enough time with what we currently do. Changing patches before you go to the field/deployment sounds like something the good idea fairy would think up.
This idea would just add to the improper wear of the uniform since the majority of Soldiers have a hard enough time with what we currently do. Changing patches before you go to the field/deployment sounds like something the good idea fairy would think up.
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COL Vincent Stoneking
CSM (Join to see) HOOAH! I hate complexity just for the sake of complexity. It already seems like a lot of what goes on with Army uniforms is like the 15/37 pieces of flair from Office Space. Personally, I would remove the velcro from the shoulders and return to sew-on for patches.
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Velcro was added to reduce cost to the soldier of having to have things sewn on everytime they switch units or get promoted/demoted, as well as making it easy to sterilze a uniform in a combat environment. Velcro may not look nice, but then it is a utility uniform. If we want to look nice, we have Class As and Bs.
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Another option would be, of course, the sewing of non-subdued patches on the Dress Blue Uniform, and once again having the issue of ruining a dress jacket because once you wear the 2 ID patch, your uniform is ruined for being able to wear any other patch once you PCS.
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I'm not trying to buy more patches. And no, I dont want the army to take more of our pay and benefits to pay for it either. I wish we could remove the patches completely along with the sleeve Velcro on the ACU. While we're at it let's remove everything but name rank and U.S. Army. Save all that Hooah Hooah decorations for the dress uniform. Once again, the marines have it right.
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There is no regulation that I am aware of that requires the wearing of anything other than name, rank, US Army, and a current SSI (unit patch) on utility uniforms. Anything else is a soldier's preference. Unit patches used to be given out by unit supply when inprocessing a unit. If the Army could stop changing uniforms in order to keep uniform companies in business, (fourth PT uniform, second dress uniform, and third utility uniform in my 28 years) they would have more than enough money to afford a few patches.
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SSG Nick Tramontano
There's a thing called Unit SOP. When I was first assigned to Ft. Bragg I sometimes wore subdued pin on wings but the unit wanted everyone to have them sewed on. As for uniforms, I started with fatigues, then cammies (only Airborne units) ,BDUs, DCUs, ACUs. Then prior to the Bosnia mission we had to sew the flag on, then eventually told to remove it, then the Army said we all wear the flag.
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