Not all Muslims are terrorists; but all terrorists are Muslim?

2015-01-17T17:18:42-05:00

It has been said more times than I care to count, but is it true? Not even remotely close....

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/01/14/are-all-terrorists-muslims-it-s-not-even-close.html

Are All Terrorists Muslims? It’s Not Even Close

What percentage of terror attacks in the United States and Europe are committed by Muslims? Guess. Nope. Guess again. And again...

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 17 at 2015 5:26 PM

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No, it's not true.

Response by Capt Richard I P. made Jan 17 at 2015 5:29 PM

2015-01-17T17:29:46-05:00

Add the words ' current and international' and it is.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 17 at 2015 6:16 PM

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There is a direct and immediate connection between violence and the act of political coercion. When we think of this, we can realize that religion isn't a factor to defining terrorism; it's just another interchangeable variable. Think of the Weather Underground, Red Army Faction, Aum Shinrikyo, Continuity Irish Republican Army. It only happens to be Islamic which is our current and international trend as Capt Richard I P. pointed out.

The organization must engage in terrorist activity as defined in the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) or terrorism as defined in theForeign Relations Authorization Act. And our State Department has a list which (by the way) is updated as status has shown to change. Some groups are NEVER going to be down delisted; NEVER EVER EVER!!

It would be naive for us to wage a religious war in the 21st Century. It's like a race war (as some of our domestic terrorist organizations are formulating). To fight against all Muslims is exactly what Abu Bakr el-Baghdady wants to happen. Short answer: no, not all terrorists are Muslim.

Response by CW5 Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 17 at 2015 7:09 PM

2015-01-17T19:09:33-05:00

I would say the article's author is bending the truth to suit his thesis. Is it the media that crashed those planes on 9/11 2001? Nope. It was Islamic terrorists. We can tiptoe around it, but there's no denying the fact that, for example, ISIS is a brutal Islamic terrorist organization. Comparing nut jobs like those terrorists (and their ilk) to Jewish settlers is not intellectually honest.

This statement, for example, attempts (I assume) to compare murderers in the USA to terrorists. I think we would all agree there's a difference:

"And as a 2014 study by University of North Carolina found, since the 9/11 attacks, Muslim-linked terrorism has claimed the lives of 37 Americans. In that same time period, more than 190,000 Americans were murdered."

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 17 at 2015 9:14 PM

2015-01-17T21:14:21-05:00

Not all are but the line share of Terrorists are Muslim Extremists.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 18 at 2015 9:35 PM

2015-01-18T21:35:32-05:00

This article never offers the definition that they are using for terrorism.

Response by SPC Stewart Smith made Jan 18 at 2015 11:04 PM

2015-01-18T23:04:59-05:00

What's the definition of terrorist? Did I miss it or did this article not give a definition...

Response by PO1 Russell Henson made Jan 19 at 2015 12:44 AM

2015-01-19T00:44:59-05:00

False. Although lately many terrorists have been muslims

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 19 at 2015 3:52 AM

2015-01-19T03:52:40-05:00

No not at all. Just look at abortion clinic bombings, the KKK (a terrorist organization by any definition of the phrase), or the Christian religion (Crusades, Inquisition, Slavery, Segregation, Apartheid, Opposition of Same-sex marriage, opposition of separate race marriage). Terrorism is exclusive to extremists in a society that refuses to consider extremist ideas as valid for discussion and discourse. For anyone who cares to actually investigate the primary reason for Muslim extremism in the Middle East has extremely little to do with religion and in fact almost exclusively has to do with economic status. Basically, people are more willing to commit acts of violence when they are poor, not when they are Muslim. Look at the LRA (Lords Resistance Army) in Africa, or people like Scott Roeder.

Response by SGT Jim Z. made Jan 19 at 2015 8:45 AM

2015-01-19T08:45:43-05:00

Was Timothy McVeigh Muslim nope but he was a terrorist or at least labeled and domestic terrorist. Ted Kaczynski (aka Unabomber) pretty sure was not Muslim either but fit the definition of a terrorist.

Response by LtCol Dennis Ivan made Jan 19 at 2015 5:40 PM

2015-01-19T17:40:37-05:00

Author is missing the point of why islamic terrorism is different. Its not because they are muslim or the % of terrorist acts they perpetrate. Its because you can take a video camera into a LOT of muslim countries or enclaves and find people cheering for, praising, encouraging and justifying such acts. No one was praising the killing in Norway, no one is praising the other terrorist acts he names except the people who are members of those groups, ie a very small minority. But when a large portion of 1.5 billion people praise a terrorist act its a big deal. He is conflating issues so badly it puts into question what his real goal is.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 19 at 2015 10:47 PM

2015-01-19T22:47:51-05:00

As you provided in the link, TSgt Joshua Copeland, not all terrorists are Muslim.
The fact that this article exists in the first place, demonstrates a few possibilities in our day-to-day reality:
1) Some journalist is out of material, and a deadline is approaching.
2) Perfect example of the media relying on outrage of the lowest common denominators in US society.
3) Every Muslim is actually determined to destroy America.
4) News article demonstrating how stupid Americans are.

I have four convicted child molesters living within a half-mile radius of my home. Those are my terrorists. Two of them attend the town's mega-million dollar Baptist church.

I will never buy into the "fact" that a particular religion deters members of a population from horrendous acts. And I will never accept that some religions actually encourage the infliction of pain and death on others on principle.

In other words, there's a whole lotta NOPE here, both with the article and the implications of it.

Response by CPT Aaron Kletzing made Jan 20 at 2015 8:21 AM

2015-01-20T08:21:11-05:00

Absolutely not. No way that all terrorists are Muslim.

Response by Maj Chris Nelson made Jan 20 at 2015 9:10 AM

2015-01-20T09:10:17-05:00

I don't think so.... while Muslim may be highest on the radar due to world activities, don't forget such groups as Neo-Nazi/white supremacy groups, Westburo Baptist, any one of a number of neighborhood gangs (Bloods, Crips, Mexican Mafia...the list goes on)... Any individual that tries to control people through fear and/or intimidation fits the bill for being a terrorist.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 20 at 2015 2:48 PM

2015-01-20T14:48:04-05:00

All terrorists are 100% terrorists

Response by LCpl Steve Wininger made Jan 20 at 2015 2:52 PM

2015-01-20T14:52:54-05:00

I would first like to say that the article presented is too emotionally charged to be considered valid. To take on the first part of the question presented, no, not all Muslims are terrorists. Much of this whole question hinges on one's view of what a terrorist is. Personally, I consider gangs (all races and colors) that use intimidation and violence as terror groups. This would include the Mob.

A person that uses intimidation, threats and coercion on their spouse or significant other fits the definition of a terrorist.

Not all Muslims are terrorists. I think they get the majority of the attention because of their activity since the 80's.

To say someone is a terrorist simply based on their religious beliefs is like saying a guy with a beard and tattoos all over him riding a Harley is a hells angel. Just not so.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 20 at 2015 3:02 PM

2015-01-20T15:02:02-05:00

And all kids under 5...lol

Response by MSG Floyd Williams made Jan 22 at 2015 12:50 PM

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What about individuals or groups who commit murder are they consider terrorist? Anyone who commit this act is evil no matter what their religion or location.

Response by SGT Todd Vance made Jan 22 at 2015 1:03 PM

2015-01-22T13:03:20-05:00

WOW!! Interesting read to say the least! Thanks for sharing!!

Response by CPT Craig Church, ASLA, LEED GA made Jan 25 at 2015 11:02 AM

2015-01-25T11:02:07-05:00

This was an excellent read. I agree with it.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 2 at 2015 12:12 AM

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TSgt Joshua Copeland if you listen to some people we are all terrorists, especially those who are in the military, own their own guns as legally allowed by the Constitution, love Jesus, and are Republicans. So no, not all terrorists are Muslim.

Response by TSgt John Temblador, PI, CIPA made Nov 5 at 2015 5:13 AM

2015-11-05T05:13:48-05:00

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