Now that combat MOSs are open to women what are your thoughts concerning lack of privacy in the field in relation to SHARP?

2016-07-01T20:04:02-04:00

In the Infantry we don't typically have access to facilities in the field environment; we operate tactically out of patrol bases, and occasionally may have access to latrines or showers if we are lucky. Usually it's baby wipes and slit trenches. Security and safety results in everyone working within close quarters, and there is usually a lack of personal space/privacy when doing anything. With SHARP having such an increasingly important role in the Army how will it affect this environment without sacrificing training value?

Response by LTC Yinon Weiss made Jul 1 at 2016 8:08 PM

2016-07-01T20:08:49-04:00

DuffelBlog has an answer for that...
http://www.duffelblog.com/2016/06/soldiers-authorized-use-slit-trench-identify/

Soldiers authorized to use slit trench 'with which they identify'

FORT BENNING, Ga.— Soldiers across the United States Army are now authorized to defecate into slit trenches with which they identify, according to Army leaders. Army Chief of Staff Gen. Mark Milley announced the sweeping regulationwill beeffective immediately. It requires all patrol bases to have at least two identical slit trenches, and authorizes Soldiers to […]

Response by SGM Mikel Dawson made Jul 1 at 2016 8:29 PM

2016-07-01T20:29:09-04:00

Want privacy in the field? Become a sniper!

Response by Sgt William Biggs made Jul 1 at 2016 8:35 PM

2016-07-01T20:35:07-04:00

That is a great question and I will be following this thread because I have no answer for that.

Response by PO1 John Miller made Jul 1 at 2016 8:37 PM

2016-07-01T20:37:04-04:00

My answer is so simple. Everyone grow the f**k up, act like the professionals and adults you all are, and keep it in your pants. It's really that simple.

Response by SSG Roger Ayscue made Jul 1 at 2016 8:51 PM

2016-07-01T20:51:24-04:00

This is what you get when you have people that have never put on a uniform in charge of the military.

Our political leaders are doing more to destroy the United States Military than the Japanese did on December 7th.

May those that would hurt our military be damned to the fires of hell.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 1 at 2016 8:54 PM

2016-07-01T20:54:10-04:00

I should get a 300 now on my PT test for doing 20 or so push ups. Cool! Oh, wait....guess the double standard will still exist? IDK?

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 1 at 2016 9:01 PM

2016-07-01T21:01:08-04:00

Adapt and overcome!

Response by Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS made Jul 1 at 2016 9:09 PM

2016-07-01T21:09:01-04:00

SHARP is not gender biased.

This isn't a Male on Female or Female on Male (only) issue, and we need to stop thinking about it like it is.

Most SHARP violations are Male on Male, due to "basic math" (85% service wide Male ratio).

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/may/20/victims-of-sex-assaults-in-military-are-mostly-sil/

Our Women are ALREADY surrounded by men everyday. They ALREADY go to the field. They already fight in war. All CA/CS/CSS changes do is change the role, not who is surrounding them.

Victims of sex assaults in military are mostly men

More military men than women are sexually abused in the ranks each year, a Pentagon survey shows, highlighting the underreporting of male-on-male assaults.

Response by PFC Janelle Fletcher made Jul 1 at 2016 9:13 PM

2016-07-01T21:13:04-04:00

Everyone keep their eyes in their own trench. I personally get sick of hearing the arguement that just because women are around there will be more incidients. If the simple fact that a female is around will cause you to have a SHARP incident then it is YOU with the problem. But of course you will have those childish females out to ruin the names of the males when nothing happened. But there will always sadly be those children in the ranks and they usually don't get weeded out until there is an incident and its not always the right party getting weeded out. But if you are going to demand equality then you can pee in the damn trench along with everyone else and thats that.

Response by Cpl Mark A. Morris made Jul 1 at 2016 9:18 PM

2016-07-01T21:18:23-04:00

Baby wipes? Man, you folks are living up town.

Response by Capt Tom Brown made Jul 1 at 2016 9:39 PM

2016-07-01T21:39:34-04:00

Either men or women SMs who feel any sense of modesty at relieving themselves in full public view of their battle buddies and half the local population should not apply for combat positions.

Response by CWO3 Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 1 at 2016 11:00 PM

2016-07-01T23:00:52-04:00

Look, if any male, female, or any one else that has the desire, skills and aptitude to be a Grunt. Then I say, let them do it. IF they can. Go for it.

Semper Fidelis (Do or Die)
JK.

Response by GySgt Charles O'Connell made Jul 2 at 2016 10:42 AM

2016-07-02T10:42:44-04:00

A non issue. If you have to crap in the field use the non gender specific slit trench provided, or else hold in.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 2 at 2016 12:10 PM

2016-07-02T12:10:45-04:00

It was never an issue for us in Ranger School just like it wasn't an issue in Iraq or Afghanistan.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 2 at 2016 1:01 PM

2016-07-02T13:01:02-04:00

i drove mrap in iraq my gunner female had to pee, she did that in gatorade bottle, no big deal, we often joked about it, grow up boys and girls, if you cant serve with women, gays, or trans gender then think about getting out

Response by SPC Elijah J. Henry, MBA made Jul 2 at 2016 1:48 PM

2016-07-02T13:48:37-04:00

Ranger School's solution is to require short walls of ponchos around the slit trenches.

Response by SGM Steve Wettstein made Jul 2 at 2016 2:35 PM

2016-07-02T14:35:59-04:00

As the old saying goes, "be careful what you wish for because you might just get it". If they want to be in combat jobs they need to conform to them not the other way around.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 2 at 2016 3:05 PM

2016-07-02T15:05:34-04:00

In regards to the slit trench issue, it has already been resolved by higher authorities at Ranger school. Just as you may allow a soldier to build a low silhouette "hooch" to shade themselves from the sun in extreme temperatures, while remaining camouflaged, the same applies for the slit trench. 3 low-silhouette walls are built in order to maintain privacy at the slit trench. As far as sharp violations/professionalism goes, if you can't get past a woman being a leader, what kind of leader are you being? Do your job to the best of your abilities, drive on, keep your head down. Accomplishment of your mission, welfare of your soldiers.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 3 at 2016 2:04 PM

2016-07-03T14:04:53-04:00

I guess it will take the Army to learn the "Hard Way" to see it was a bad idea.

Response by CWO3 Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 5 at 2016 3:33 AM

2016-07-05T03:33:53-04:00

Look, if anyone and it doesn't matter what gender, race, color, or creed and they have the desire, skills and aptitude to be a Grunt. Then I say, let them do it. IF they can Do It. Then Go for it.

Semper Fidelis (Do or Die)
James