O-1e pay eligibility question. I've read FMR May 2020 but it's still a bit unclear. Does anyone have specific experience with this?

2021-03-02T08:33:34-05:00

I am a Navy reservist enlisted E/6 switching to the Army active duty as an O-2. My reserve points total is 1,955 but that includes IDT/IDTT/ ADT / AT/ Deployments. Do all points count toward "e" pay when commissioning from a Reserve component to an Active Duty component? OR is it just my ADT / AT / Deployment points that will count towards the active duty O-2e pay? Again, I am a Navy reservist going active duty Army.

Response by 1LT Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 2 at 2021 9:06 AM

2021-03-02T09:06:48-05:00

They will not determine eligibility based on your actions duty points. They will calculate your active duty time based on your DD 214's and DD 220's. Typically if you have at least 4 years of active duty prior to commissioning, you are eligible to fall under the E pay. I am under for someone who is commissioning directly as an O-2 though. Are you direct commissioning?

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 2 at 2021 9:06 AM

2021-03-02T09:06:49-05:00

IDT points do not count. It's been 18 years since I went through the process and it may have changed. But only points accrued in an active status count towards "e" pay.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 2 at 2021 9:31 AM

2021-03-02T09:31:01-05:00

I was a LT with a guy who got released from active duty just prior to the 4 year mark to go to west point. He also was not an O-1E.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 2 at 2021 10:36 AM

2021-03-02T10:36:00-05:00

It does look like the updated DoD 7000.14-R Volume 7A Chapter 1. Para. 010203, rules have changed and you may be eligible. It does reference the calculation of service and state on page 1-11 must have 4 years and 1 day of active duty service.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 2 at 2021 11:00 AM

2021-03-02T11:00:17-05:00

Your points are not what determined your eligibility. Your days spent in an active duty status are what count towards the over 4 years required O-E pay

That means any time covered under a DD-214, anytime covered under activation orders 4 Federal activation, and if you are looking at a points worksheet, any days points covered under the AD column are worth one day per point. Just expect that you will need to take all of your documents to your S1 or career counselor once you get to your first unit and have them do a ba 1506

Response by SFC Michael Hasbun made Mar 2 at 2021 1:22 PM

2021-03-02T13:22:47-05:00

E-Grade is based on ACTIVE years. More specifically, you must have a minimum of 4 Active years to qualify for E-grades. Reserve years and Active years do not equate on a 1/1 ratio.

DoD Financial Management Regulation Volume 7A, Chapter 1

Creditable Prior Enlisted Service.
Commissioned officers in pay grades O-1, O-2, or O-3 who are credited with over 4 years (i.e., at least 4 years and 1 day) of prior active service as an enlisted member are entitled to the special rate of basic pay for pay grade O-1E, O-2E, or O-3E.

Response by MAJ Matthew Arnold made Mar 2 at 2021 3:03 PM

2021-03-02T15:03:24-05:00

O-1? Take your pay and keep your head down.

Response by CDR Terry Boles made Mar 2 at 2021 11:11 PM

2021-03-02T23:11:55-05:00

I’m a mustang officer and as others have stated you need 4-years active duty plus 1-day to qualify for e-pay. I had a junior officer under my command who had a bit under 4-years and had to repay 12-months of e-pay back.

When I direct commissioned I took my DD214s plus my drill point documentation and had the AF recompute my DIEMS date and PEBD. I had served more than 4-years enlisted active duty but wanted the documentation updated on the AF side. You should also provide similar documentation to the Army for similar reasons. If you have been a pure reservist with no appreciable active duty that equates to 4-years you will miss out on the e-pay. There has always been a misconception of who qualifies for e-pay.

Good luck with your new career.

Response by 2LT Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 23 at 2021 2:42 PM

2021-03-23T14:42:14-04:00

So when I commissioned through OCS in the NC Army National Guard, they gave everybody the rank of O1-E. Only a handful of us actually qualified due to prior active-duty time but again, the NC Army National Guard gave brand new candidates O1-E. So maybe you’ll get lucky

Response by LCDR Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 18 at 2021 1:37 PM

2021-04-18T13:37:22-04:00

It seems like yes. The regulations have changed and you may be good to go based on points. See here: https://comptroller.defense.gov/Portals/45/documents/fmr/archive/07aarch/07a_01_Jun12.pdf

07a_01_Jun12.pdf

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Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 30 at 2021 4:07 PM

2021-07-30T16:07:48-04:00

If I may add on to this, I read somewhere, cannot find where I read it, but if you are a reservist like myself with little to no AD time, but have been in the Reserve component for 6+ years, you may qualify for O-1E pay. Is this true? I am currently prior enlisted SMP cadet with 6 years in and I am looking for the alternative to "4 years and 1 day AD" to qualify for O-1E pay.