Officials: Marine commandant recommends women be banned from some combat jobs. Your Thoughts?

Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS — Mon, 21 Sep 2015 11:52:40 -0400

http://www.marinecorpstimes.com/story/military/2015/09/18/officials-marine-commandant-recommends-women-banned-some-combat-job/72421888/

Response by Capt Richard I P. made Sep 21 at 2015 12:01 PM

Capt Richard I P. — Mon, 21 Sep 2015 12:01:25 -0400

Come on Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS you know the rules.... Make it a question...

Response by Sgt Tom Cunnally made Sep 21 at 2015 12:12 PM

Sgt Tom Cunnally — Mon, 21 Sep 2015 12:12:45 -0400

Hate to say I told you so but I told you so..Aaron...

Response by Cpl Jeff N. made Sep 21 at 2015 12:42 PM

Cpl Jeff N. — Mon, 21 Sep 2015 12:42:06 -0400

It really was a no brainer unless you are hopelessly locked into the PC world of today.

Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS . This is not primarily about women getting hurt at a higher rate. It is about the capability, on average, of men vs women. Can some women pass ITB, yes. We both know that ITB is not as hard as actually being in a rifle platoon/company. Most schools are not as hard as the unit you will arrive at in your primary MOS.

Women getting hurt at higher rates effects readiness and can get those that remain killed. When people are shooting slower, less accurately etc it effects mission results. The most dangerous weapon in the world is a Marine and his rifle. We cannot allow that not to be the case. Can women in a controlled environment shoot as well as men? Yes. But when you roll in significant physical exertion, adverse conditions etc and ask them to shoot it is not the same thing.

You can make the same argument on mortars, machine guns tracked vehicles etc.

The Commandant is going to have to go against Mabus on this but his job is Commandant of the Marine Corps. He does not want to be the guy to put Marines at risk, reduce combat effectiveness and compromise missions.

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made Sep 21 at 2015 1:02 PM

MAJ Ken Landgren — Mon, 21 Sep 2015 13:02:07 -0400

That is a practical instead of a theoretical approach.

Response by LCDR Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 21 at 2015 1:33 PM

LCDR Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 21 Sep 2015 13:33:10 -0400

If he feels it's what is best, I wish him the best but doubt this will go very far other than causing more arguments on the subject.

Response by SSG Warren Swan made Sep 21 at 2015 1:51 PM

SSG Warren Swan — Mon, 21 Sep 2015 13:51:27 -0400

If I'm not mistaken isn't he the next CJOS? If so there's going to be a new Marine Commandant. Will he share the same views and if the views don't match, who wins or is there really a winner?

Response by LTC Henry Barber made Sep 21 at 2015 2:59 PM

LTC Henry Barber — Mon, 21 Sep 2015 14:59:19 -0400

The Marine Corps Commandants normally don't hold back on their thoughts. Say your piece, salute and drive on.

Response by GySgt Ray Wyatt made Sep 21 at 2015 3:16 PM

GySgt Ray Wyatt — Mon, 21 Sep 2015 15:16:50 -0400

A WM is a Marine, just like her Brothers. If a WM wants to take up the challenge, let her. She like all Marines will need to prove her strength and drive to move up or move out. Semper Fi.

Response by Capt Richard I P. made Sep 21 at 2015 6:32 PM

Capt Richard I P. — Mon, 21 Sep 2015 18:32:54 -0400

I've shared my thoughts on this in all the other subtly different threads.

Response by Sgt Nick Marshall made Sep 22 at 2015 11:15 AM

Sgt Nick Marshall — Tue, 22 Sep 2015 11:15:23 -0400

Either women in combat units must be held to the same standards as men, or we make dedicated female units, banning is a bad idea.

Response by Sgt Tom Cunnally made Sep 22 at 2015 11:24 AM

Sgt Tom Cunnally — Tue, 22 Sep 2015 11:24:09 -0400

"Officials: Marine commandant recommends women be banned from some combat jobs. Your Thoughts?"

Who I am to question the Commandant of the Marine Corps who has probably forgot more than I know about this issue. He said women are banned from some combat jobs including mine and if I was on active duty I would say" OK the Commandant has issued an order so it is up to me to obey and move on to the next challenge or mission"...