Posted on Jun 7, 2017
On a serious note, any advice on dealing with toxic leadership from a lower enlisted level?
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1. Learn the regulations
2. Learn the SME's for different situations - i.e. JAG, JST Helpdesk, S1Net, etc.
3. Realize tact beats facts, especially the higher the rank
4. Write your own Memos for Record with witnesses and DTG included when situations may be used against you
5. Write SOMETHING in your DA 4856 counseling feedback section before signing off. Also, remember a complete 4856 has a lower 1/3 on the back for when the counselor and counseled Soldier review everything that happened days or weeks later.
6. Remain professional and realize social media is your online profile and therefore representative of you.
7. Try to build understanding and initiate a one-on-one conversation about the toxicity as needed with whoever needed. Perception is reality and can create issues.
8. Remember "toxic leadership" isn't synonymous with disliking a Leader's leadership style. Leadership is OJT and everyone can't be effectively led the same. You can help others better understand how to lead you. Also, there can always be something you don't know about a particular situation. Leaders are people, too.
9. Don't drink water. Everyone that drinks water dies.
10. Read and talk with others who have engaged in similar threads here on RP - https://www.rallypoint.com/topics/toxic-leadership
2. Learn the SME's for different situations - i.e. JAG, JST Helpdesk, S1Net, etc.
3. Realize tact beats facts, especially the higher the rank
4. Write your own Memos for Record with witnesses and DTG included when situations may be used against you
5. Write SOMETHING in your DA 4856 counseling feedback section before signing off. Also, remember a complete 4856 has a lower 1/3 on the back for when the counselor and counseled Soldier review everything that happened days or weeks later.
6. Remain professional and realize social media is your online profile and therefore representative of you.
7. Try to build understanding and initiate a one-on-one conversation about the toxicity as needed with whoever needed. Perception is reality and can create issues.
8. Remember "toxic leadership" isn't synonymous with disliking a Leader's leadership style. Leadership is OJT and everyone can't be effectively led the same. You can help others better understand how to lead you. Also, there can always be something you don't know about a particular situation. Leaders are people, too.
9. Don't drink water. Everyone that drinks water dies.
10. Read and talk with others who have engaged in similar threads here on RP - https://www.rallypoint.com/topics/toxic-leadership
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SGT(P) (Join to see)
Thank you for the information and advice SGT, will take this to my first line leader and discuss it with him and the other NCO's in our squad.
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SGT(P) (Join to see) - Best of luck and let me know if there's any other ways I can help. Also, regulations include ALARACT's and MILPER messages.
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I found that minimizing any and all interactions to only what is necessary for work is the best way to handle that. Don't talk to them unless you have to. Make sure you don't give them any reason to come down on you. NCOs are like cats. Their focus is only as long as the next shiny thing that comes along.
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Welcome to Life? Not everyone is a stellar leader or Soldier. My first question would be are you in this NCOs rating chain? If not there is no issue. If you are in this NCOs rating chain then you have some issues. Like it or not but the way I read this is a bunch of Soldiers and a few NCOs don't care for another member of the unit. It appears that the Chain of Command has another opinion of the NCO. So, you can go with the flow or buck the system. If the NCO you are having an issue with has not done anything illegal, immoral, or unethical then you do not have many options besides the IG or a Congressional, maybe a Command Climate Survey as well. But you thinking the NCO has leadership issues- that jumps the shark directly to the 1SG or the CSM.
As a previous BN CDR, I often enjoyed long talks with the IG and the SMs that had an issue with one of our NCOs. I hope a specific tone permeated the airways there. To me it looks like an E4 thinks he knows how to be an NCO and you have some NCO friends that are being unprofessional discussing a peer NCO to a junior Soldier. But that is me and I am retired. So, I think it depends on how your chain of command receives the information. I don't understand the MP/ TC task org you are in as well so there might be a dynamic there that I am missing. Best of luck. Let your immediate rater handle this situation and focus on SSI and other PME.
As a previous BN CDR, I often enjoyed long talks with the IG and the SMs that had an issue with one of our NCOs. I hope a specific tone permeated the airways there. To me it looks like an E4 thinks he knows how to be an NCO and you have some NCO friends that are being unprofessional discussing a peer NCO to a junior Soldier. But that is me and I am retired. So, I think it depends on how your chain of command receives the information. I don't understand the MP/ TC task org you are in as well so there might be a dynamic there that I am missing. Best of luck. Let your immediate rater handle this situation and focus on SSI and other PME.
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