Our first DA PAM 670-1 error...

SFC Michael Hasbun — Tue, 01 Apr 2014 08:55:13 -0400

If you go to page 74 of the new DA PAM, the illustration of the female PFC in her ASU's is wearing a stripe down her leg (the bottom half of which is identical to the picture of the NCO on page 73... lazy illustrator...)... C'mon Army, it's not like this was put together in a hurry or at the last second....

Response by CSM Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 1 at 2014 8:59 AM

CSM Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 01 Apr 2014 08:59:28 -0400

Yep. Noticed that too.

Response by CSM Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 1 at 2014 9:05 AM

CSM Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 01 Apr 2014 09:05:50 -0400

How bout the bun no wider than the head? Looks like we're about to see some HUGE buns out there.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 1 at 2014 9:09 AM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 01 Apr 2014 09:09:45 -0400

As a Illustrator myself, it's not that difficult to spot that black line on the pants. Some 25M soldier or civilian needs some corrective training. Some four count military presses with pencils will fix the issue...LOL 

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 1 at 2014 10:13 AM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 01 Apr 2014 10:13:08 -0400

They also have tab precedence as "Ranger, Special Forces, Sapper" and then the drawing on the next page has the Special Forces tab over the Ranger tab. Proofread much?

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 1 at 2014 10:18 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 01 Apr 2014 10:18:26 -0400

LOL! I saw this last night. Almost started a thread on it. Didn't notice the tab precedence, good catch!

Response by SFC William Swartz Jr made Apr 1 at 2014 10:32 AM

SFC William Swartz Jr — Tue, 01 Apr 2014 10:32:18 -0400

Go figure, you wait years on end and finally when it is released, tada, it's ate-up from the get go LMAO ......

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 1 at 2014 11:04 AM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 01 Apr 2014 11:04:59 -0400

What about the MP picture? looks like its from 1975.

Response by CW5 Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 1 at 2014 11:11 AM

CW5 Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 01 Apr 2014 11:11:09 -0400

How about this one from the DA PAm?

Chief warrant officer 4.The insignia is a silver-colored bar, 1/4 inch in width and 3/4 inch in length, with four

silver squares centered on the bar, positioned parallel to, and at each end, of the shoulder strap.

I think a silver bar with silver squares is going to look a little too much like another rank insignia.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 1 at 2014 6:28 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 01 Apr 2014 18:28:18 -0400

Well I emailed the pentagon's G1 this afternoon. And a Maj that does publication corrections at Ft. Leavonworth. He said it was an organizational concern and they may or may not even response to my email, well they did. SMA Chandler knocks on my door, SSG Hasbun, your name is the first one to come out of my mouth.

SSG Dear,

Thank you for your comment. We hope to correct this with an "administrative correction" within the next week or so.

Have a great week!

V/R,

SGM LeeAnn M. Conner

HQDA, DCS Army G-1

Uniform Policy SGM

Pentagon, Room 2C453

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-----Original Message-----

From: Dear, Brian H SSG USARMY NG KSARNG (US)

Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 2:02 PM

To: USARMY Pentagon HQDA DCS G-1 Mailbox Uniform

Cc: Adair, Christopher R SSG USARMY NG KSARNG (US)

Subject: DA PAM 670-1 Substantive Comment for ASU error for editor

Page 74 of DA PAM 670-1 illustrates a junior enlisted Soldier in ASU's with NCO embroidery on trousers. The rank is that of a PFC.

(4) Enlisted personnel (specialist and below) wear no ornamentation on the outside of the seam of the slack leg. It could mislead lower subornidates to adhere to this photo.

Submitted initial concern to G-1 publications FAQ summary with an "undeliverable email" message. The address was [login to see] .mil

DA PAM 670-1 recommended this email to address errors of publications.

DA FORM 2028 doesn't seem necessary as this isn't a significant policy change and shouldn't require chain of command endorsement.

I'm aware that the comments should be submitted using the standardized comment matrix primer for RAR implementation, but again the format from TRADOC Reg 25-36 is too formal and the editor has already extinguished the time constraint.

Thank you for your consideration.

SSG Dear

Restlessness is discontent and discontent is the first necessity for progress- Thomas Edison.

END MESSAGE

Let me be the first to say SSG Hasbun I believe you are going to get me into trouble. Go Guard.

Response by SFC Steven Harvey made Apr 2 at 2014 3:21 AM

SFC Steven Harvey — Wed, 02 Apr 2014 03:21:12 -0400

I'm almost positive if everyone on RallyPoint tried we could effectively fix
everything about it, including the ancient drawings, verbiage, typos, etc.

Everyone is represented here; I doubt there is anything there that couldn't be
covered by this community.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 2 at 2014 5:28 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 02 Apr 2014 05:28:56 -0400

The line represents the seem of the pants