Our legal system...

Cpl Michael Strickler — Thu, 13 Nov 2014 15:16:55 -0500

Today is the first day that I have ever expended all my votes. I just got so emotional about the Marine couple that was murdered and I went on an upvote spree for torturing the degenerats as though my voting would somehow spring a new castration law into effect or something...

https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/another-death-penalty-in-newlywed-marine-couple-murders

I was close posting another response, but wondered if there was a logical reason... So here goes.

Why is it that judges or jury or someone can't call BS when an attorney tries some crap like 'undersized brain' or whatever. We all know it is legal BS. The legal system was created by us, we can set its precedent; why the hell do judges sit there like "well, yeah, they did that in 1902, so yep, I will allow that retarded claim to be heard" all the while the defendant is sitting there with a clown smile on his face because he knows he is about to win the trial. Why do we tie the hands of our protection services with crap like, 'Oh, you do not have a piece of paper saying you could find that murder weapon, so now it doesn't exist anymore...'

What is going on here?

Another death penalty in newlywed Marine couple murders | RallyPoint

From: Marine Corps Times A man who joined three accomplices in tormenting and killing a Marine sergeant and his wife during a home invasion robbery near Murrieta, California, was sentenced Friday to death. Kesaun Kedron Sykes, 27, was convicted in August of the 2008 slayings of 26-year-olde Quiana Faye Jenkins-Pietrzak and her husband, 24-year-old Janek Pietrzak. The six-man, six-woman jury that found Sykes guilty recommended the death...

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 13 at 2014 3:38 PM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 13 Nov 2014 15:38:50 -0500

There is no F*****g reason behind it or excuse. I say he gets what he has coming to him!

Response by CW5 Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 13 at 2014 5:13 PM

CW5 Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 13 Nov 2014 17:13:19 -0500

I agree with you, Cpl Michael Strickler - 100%. The "technicalities" that get people off have bothered me all my life. Time and time again we see a cut and dried case where the person who committed the crime is guilty as sin, but some procedural error or some police mistake gets them off.

I have long thought that our justice system just plain sucks. Sadly, I don't see things changing much. In my limited experience with the judicial system, if you're guilty and you know it, there's a good chance you'll walk or get a lighter sentence. And if you're innocent, but by some unfortunate circumstance were in the wrong place at the wrong time (or something like that), you will get the book thrown at you. It is sickening.

And I know that's not true across the board. It's just that it seems to be true much more often than it should be.

Response by SSG Ralph Innes made Nov 14 at 2014 11:43 AM

SSG Ralph Innes — Fri, 14 Nov 2014 11:43:06 -0500

I am an attorney and I can explain it the best way I can. I have represented individuals from speeding tickets to murder charges and everything inbetween. Our founding forefathers were very smart men. They set up a system where based on the premise that we would rather allow a guilty person go free than an innocent person be put in prison. On an almost weekly basis we see on the news of an individual being released from prison after a lengthy incarceration that were totally innocent based on updated DNA evidence, prosecutorial misconduct, etc.

Now the practical matter of representing those individuals. Our Constitution, which we all took the oath to defend affords everyone convicted of a crime the right to representation, a trial by jury (not a trial of your peers), the right to remain silent, the right to compel evidence and witnesses, all while the government having the burden of providing guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. If the state cannot meet that burden, I do not have any issue with my guy walking. If the state can meet its burden and my guy goes to prison, I do not have any issue with that either.

As a society, we throw a fit if any of our basic Constitutional rights are infringed upon. The same should be said about the right to reprensentation and a jury trial.

As far as the particular Marine case goes, I hope the defendants are found guilty. Period.