My question is two part, so please bear with me (and thanks for the help, I've never gotten a solid answer on this):
1. Part one, eligibility:
So on the HRC website (https://www.hrc.army.mil/TAGD/Overseas%20Service%20Ribbon%20OSR) it says:
"How long do I have to serve in Iraq or Afghanistan to be awarded the OSR?
IAW AR 614-30, Soldiers who serve a minimum of 11 cumulative months (within a 24 month period) or 9 continuous months in a TCS/TDY status may receive overseas tour credit for a completed short tour."
My ERB shows a deployment from 201226 to 20130831 and calculates to 8 months.
I did NOT deploy within the 24 months, twice, so the 11 cumulative will not work. My BN S1 adjutant said I am NOT eligible for the OSR for this tour because I didn't hit the 9 months. Fine by me, I really don't care. So I took my photo and had my ERB say 1 OSR (for a 12 month Afghan deployment, I didn't get an OSR for my 3 month OIF I invasion deployment).
I actually can't find where in AR 614-30 it says that. The one from 2010 doesn't seem to have the chart that the old one said that basically said "if this, then that". And the words "9 continuous" as from HRC don't even exist in the document according to the search function.
The S1 told me it was based on how many months showed up on the ERB. So if it had said 9 months I would have been good, but it says 8 months.
And my total deployed time says 23 months on my ERB, so I can only wear 3 overseas bars on my sleeve as well (according to S1).
2. Now for part two:
So I validated my board record a couple weeks prior to the board with my ERB saying 1 OSR and my photo with only the OSR and no numerals.
I had CSM Maynard look at my record and he noticed my ERB said 2 OSR.
Someone, or HRC, automatically added my second OSR even though I don't appear to be eligible and was told I wasn't.
First, how bad does that look to the board (assuming my ERB was changed before the board convened), and second, is there a way to see what ERB the board pulled? When I click on my board file in OMPF, it says not available because the board already convened.
The argument I've been told is it isn't by day but by month, but I can't see where that's in writing. For example, if you went by month and not days, it would be December (2012), Jan, Feb, Mar, Apr, May, Jun, July, Aug - nine months. But by days apparently they have something before the 15th or after or whatnot, which calculates to 8 months total, not nine.
And I've been told that for the stripes it's by months, for the OSR it's basically by days.
So to play it safe I just went with the ERB. ERB said 8 months for this deployment, so I didn't put an OSR on. ERB said 23 months total deployed, so I only wear 3 stripes on my sleeve.
Edited 6 y ago
Posted 6 y ago
For the OSR, if your ERB shows 8 months in Section I, then it is not the 9 months required. Months are calculated in Section I by days and not under the same rules as OSBs.
For OSBs, the Total Months in Section I will normally not add up to your qualifying months for the OSB. According to 670-1, "The months of arrival to, and
departure from xxxxxx are counted as whole months." This is not the way that eMILPO calculates the "months" in Section I.
Hope that helps.
maybe it's different for NCOs, but I don't know if the board even really looks at your DA photo when you are an officer, other than to make sure you are not a total fat-ass. I know a guy whose packet went before the O4 board and he didn't even have his name-tag on his ASU in his DA photo, still got selected.
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