Pardon my cynicism, but has anyone considered that the refugees in Europe is a smoke-screen invasion?

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 15 Sep 2015 12:13:46 -0400

http://news360.com/article/311820821#

Response by SCPO David Lockwood made Sep 15 at 2015 12:15 PM

SCPO David Lockwood — Tue, 15 Sep 2015 12:15:55 -0400

I was thinking the same thing.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 15 at 2015 12:16 PM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 15 Sep 2015 12:16:29 -0400

I heard on the news that 80% of these refugees were males between 18-24 years old. This suggests to me they are all "fighting" age.

Response by MSG Marcel Guaring made Sep 15 at 2015 12:30 PM

MSG Marcel Guaring — Tue, 15 Sep 2015 12:30:18 -0400

There is no way to distinguish their true motives. I can see how this can potentially be a threat to security and a disaster waiting to happen. The ones that can speak english could have been an interpreter at one point.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 15 at 2015 12:33 PM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 15 Sep 2015 12:33:12 -0400

I am sure you will see an outbreak in bombings and killings before it is gets any better! To easy for the bad guys to walk right in and start mayhem!

Response by Cpl Jeff N. made Sep 15 at 2015 12:33 PM

Cpl Jeff N. — Tue, 15 Sep 2015 12:33:51 -0400

Anyone remember a story about a Trojan horse? Same principal, minus the horse. They just walked or rode right in because most in the west are not astute enough to recognize the possible danger.

Response by SGT Ben Keen made Sep 15 at 2015 12:35 PM

SGT Ben Keen — Tue, 15 Sep 2015 12:35:03 -0400

Interesting thought for sure. What makes it even harder to differentiate between all involved is that I'm sure there are truly some coming to find a safe haven while others may be using as a smoke screen to something else. Then you add in people's already long-standing lack of trust, fuel is being added to the already blazing fire.

While I hope their intentions are to truly escape and start anew, it will be sometime until we truly know.

Response by SFC Maury Gonzalez made Sep 15 at 2015 12:43 PM

SFC Maury Gonzalez — Tue, 15 Sep 2015 12:43:15 -0400

Duh, of course it is, anyone who thinks different still believe in the Easter bunny and and Santa Claus (code pink, the ACLU )

Response by COL Jean (John) F. B. made Sep 15 at 2015 12:43 PM

COL Jean (John) F. B. — Tue, 15 Sep 2015 12:43:38 -0400

LTC Private RallyPoint Member - No question, at all, in my mind.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 15 at 2015 12:44 PM

SSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 15 Sep 2015 12:44:26 -0400

I have said this on another thread similar to this one. If you know that an armed invasion will be repelled almost immediately, wouldn't you send in an invasion of 'refugees' in order to get your troops behind the lines before the fighting starts?

Response by LCDR Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 15 at 2015 1:06 PM

LCDR Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 15 Sep 2015 13:06:20 -0400

I considered it but highly doubt it.

It would be an unreal maneuver that honestly deserves some respect while it wrecks havoc, but I don't think it's the case.

Response by PO1 William "Chip" Nagel made Sep 15 at 2015 1:36 PM

PO1 William "Chip" Nagel — Tue, 15 Sep 2015 13:36:45 -0400

People escaping a Nightmare. The vast majority just want to escape to a better life like everyone else. Is it an opportunity for those that wish us harm to sneak in their folks, of course but the vast, vast majority just want Peace and to be left alone which isn't happening back home.

Response by SMSgt Richard Johnson made Sep 15 at 2015 2:04 PM

SMSgt Richard Johnson — Tue, 15 Sep 2015 14:04:09 -0400

BTW, they passed through a dozen or so countries to get to a Western Christian based country. If that doesn't stink or a planned agenda, I don't know what does?

Response by COL Jean (John) F. B. made Sep 15 at 2015 2:10 PM

COL Jean (John) F. B. — Tue, 15 Sep 2015 14:10:00 -0400

Response by SSG John Erny made Sep 15 at 2015 4:28 PM

SSG John Erny — Tue, 15 Sep 2015 16:28:39 -0400

Walk through certain neighborhoods in London or Paris and see what happens if you are not a muslim. There are a lot of videos on youtube of people being attacked in these cities and others. Sharia Law is not compatible with western culture period.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9L_zEZflFQ

Muslims Enforcing Sharia Law on the streets of London

Response by SPC Jan Allbright, M.Sc., R.S. made Sep 16 at 2015 8:08 AM

SPC Jan Allbright, M.Sc., R.S. — Wed, 16 Sep 2015 08:08:36 -0400

You do know that this picture came from 2012?
http://m.snopes.com/isis-flag-refugees-germany/

FALSE: ISIS Flag Among Refugees in Germany

No, a much-circulated photograph doesn't show Syrian refugees just arrived in Germany waving an ISIS flag and attacking police.

Response by SSgt Alex Robinson made Sep 16 at 2015 8:11 AM

SSgt Alex Robinson — Wed, 16 Sep 2015 08:11:38 -0400

It makes sense. Our Intel folks have said it is definite that terrorist organizations have infiltrated the refugees

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 16 at 2015 9:44 AM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 16 Sep 2015 09:44:48 -0400

It is Sir. These animals need to be fed led and kicked out back to where ever they come from. All they want is to create chaos, implement their backwards way of life, Sharia and makes us tolerant of their abuse of women and children.

Response by MCPO Roger Collins made Sep 16 at 2015 9:55 AM

MCPO Roger Collins — Wed, 16 Sep 2015 09:55:37 -0400

No doubt in my mind. The effects will be seen in relatively short term on economics then more aggressively in the cultural arena.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 16 at 2015 10:57 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 16 Sep 2015 22:57:30 -0400

No, I don't believe it is. The best way to conduct sneak terrorist attacks is with people you have in place; they speak the language, look like locals, and they don't stand out. Nidal Hassan is a good example of this. Any migrant or refugee is going to stand out in some way. People will already be looking at them with suspicion (like everyone on this thread).

The path into the EU from these countries is dangerous and there are four international borders they have to cross (for the most popular route through the Balkans). They would have to pay criminal smugglers to sneak them into Europe, usually for about 5,000 euro a head, or they risk deportation from the border guards. And there's no guarantee they'll even make it into the EU and not some refugee camp where the majority would rip them to strips for what they did to their country.

ISIS would be best served keeping their military-aged males on the actual fronts in the middle east; they aren't going to risk such a long-shot gamble when they can just do their recruiting over the internet and pay criminals to facilitate.

The best way to conduct an attack in the EU or the states is to get some disenfranchised kid or lone wolf that doesn't really stand out, teach him to make a bomb, and pick a target. You can do this over the internet, which is what they've been doing. Remember Fort Hood? Remember Boston?

The refugees are more likely to try policing their own because they fear reprisals from locals. Ask any Kosovar that remembers the nineties how they feel about young punks getting fresh when their country is already struggling.

Response by Cpl Glynis Sakowicz made Sep 17 at 2015 9:58 AM

Cpl Glynis Sakowicz — Thu, 17 Sep 2015 09:58:33 -0400

Well.... yea, considering that 80% of the "Poor, homeless refugees" are men between the ages of 15-35, I'd say its a done deal.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 18 at 2015 4:40 AM

SSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 18 Sep 2015 04:40:46 -0400

LTC Private RallyPoint Member You are right! That is exactly what is happening here and it is sickening and appalling.... like a knife to the back....

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 18 at 2015 5:50 AM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 18 Sep 2015 05:50:35 -0400

Sir,
There are many situations that I do believe that are smoke screens for the true harsh realities of what's really going on. As the meme that Col. Gene posted, statistically I would definitely classify this as a threat and be extremely cautious and weary of these people, regardless of there race, religion, or creed. Any group that has that many males and in the prime age bracket age bracket that they are should raise a red flag to the governmental officials. However, a majority of them are civilians that haven't had to asses an enemy threat. The live in a clocke of comfort that we (The U.S. Armed Services) have blanketed over them. This is why I believe every politician should do at least a two year enlistment (plus basic or OCS). So they can look at all situations similar or like this in the same way. Something along the lines of: Asses the situation, come up with a threat analysis, factor in the what "ifs", investigate the individuals (do they all come from where they say, do they all have perfect stories, do they have stories that are similar in nature, etc) and to be a bit cynical about situations like this is to save lives not cost live. Actually it's quite comforting to know that these are in the thoughts of the officers appointed over me, Sir.

Response by Sgt Kelli Mays made Sep 18 at 2015 7:45 PM

Sgt Kelli Mays — Fri, 18 Sep 2015 19:45:15 -0400

I thought that from the start...considering where they are coming from. It a perfect ruse for them.