Patton or Full Metal Jacket?

PO1 Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 08 Apr 2015 10:42:56 -0400

So the Military Times have narrowed it down to 2 best of the best military movies. What is YOUR vote?

http://www.militarytimes.com/story/entertainment/2015/04/06/military-movie-madness-bracket-patton-full-metal-jacket/25352665/

Final vote for best movie: Patton vs. Full Metal Jacket

Marines vs. Army. Officer vs. Enlisted. Peace button and "born to kill" helmet vs. massive American flag backdrop. The general vs. the gunny. After

Response by SPC Jan Allbright, M.Sc., R.S. made Apr 8 at 2015 10:48 AM

SPC Jan Allbright, M.Sc., R.S. — Wed, 08 Apr 2015 10:48:26 -0400

Patton screwed the pooch with the selection of tanks used in the movie.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 8 at 2015 10:56 AM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 08 Apr 2015 10:56:42 -0400

We were soldiers, saving private Ryan.

Response by Capt Richard I P. made Apr 8 at 2015 10:59 AM

Capt Richard I P. — Wed, 08 Apr 2015 10:59:52 -0400

Marines die, that’s what we’re here for. But the Marine Corps lives forever. And that means YOU live forever.

-Full Metal Jacket, 1987

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Response by SGT Ben Keen made Apr 8 at 2015 12:53 PM

SGT Ben Keen — Wed, 08 Apr 2015 12:53:18 -0400

I think when you look at the overall bracket there were some great movies and much like March Madness; some favorites were tossed early leaving to several upsets. When looking at these two; it's hard to just pick one as the "best". Both movies give an interesting view into the military of the time in which the script was written. Heck, I know people that though Full Metal Jacket was only about Basic Training because they never watched past that. Patton gives a few of one of the best commanders to ever lead Soldiers into combat. While his methods were sometimes questionable, Patton got the job done.

As far as which movie do I think is best right now on this day?? I'm voting with FMJ.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 8 at 2015 1:07 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 08 Apr 2015 13:07:41 -0400

I thought Patton was the better movie. I hated the helicopter scene in FMJ.

Response by COL Jean (John) F. B. made Apr 8 at 2015 1:54 PM

COL Jean (John) F. B. — Wed, 08 Apr 2015 13:54:56 -0400

Patton ... No contest.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 8 at 2015 2:13 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 08 Apr 2015 14:13:08 -0400

Watched Patton once, never watched FMJ. Whatever y'all think. I'm easy.

Response by CDR Terry Boles made Apr 8 at 2015 2:37 PM

CDR Terry Boles — Wed, 08 Apr 2015 14:37:43 -0400

"War is simple, direct, and ruthless."

Response by CW2 John Brookins made Apr 8 at 2015 2:48 PM

CW2 John Brookins — Wed, 08 Apr 2015 14:48:06 -0400

Of the two, I choose Patton for the overall picture but FMJ has the best DI Scenes of any movie.

Response by Maj Chris Nelson made Apr 8 at 2015 2:54 PM

Maj Chris Nelson — Wed, 08 Apr 2015 14:54:04 -0400

Ok, I looked at ALL the choices on the brackts (BOTH sides...) If you are going to put down stuff like "Tropic Thunder" and a couple others, they missed one of the BEST movies of all times.... wait for it...... "Stripes" 1981 with Bill Murray, Harold Ramis, Warren Oates, P. J. Soles, and John Candy

Response by SFC Ronnie Seaton Jr made Apr 8 at 2015 3:17 PM

SFC Ronnie Seaton Jr — Wed, 08 Apr 2015 15:17:33 -0400

FMJ due to the collection of characters with a diverse backgrounds and attitudes. You can be invested in each character.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 8 at 2015 3:27 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 08 Apr 2015 15:27:06 -0400

FMJ. R. Lee Ermey is the best DI ever.

Response by SSG Christopher K. made Apr 8 at 2015 3:33 PM

SSG Christopher K. — Wed, 08 Apr 2015 15:33:40 -0400

Patton was a great movie....but come one FMJ is just one of the best movies ever.

Response by PO3 Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 8 at 2015 3:42 PM

PO3 Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 08 Apr 2015 15:42:03 -0400

Both are worthy choices but I voted for FMJ because the cinematography was better in my opinion. Both moving, both well acted, FMJ a little better visually.

Response by Cpl Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 8 at 2015 3:43 PM

Cpl Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 08 Apr 2015 15:43:40 -0400

I vote both, as they are both great movies in a different way. I think though that FMJ is more hard hitting and gives you a gut check about war that Patton did not delve into.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 8 at 2015 9:28 PM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 08 Apr 2015 21:28:53 -0400

A fan of Full MEtal Jacket but only for the first 20 minutes when R. Lee Ermey is on. But Patton is truly awesome and legendary.

Response by SSG Stan Morrison Jr made Apr 9 at 2015 3:19 PM

SSG Stan Morrison Jr — Thu, 09 Apr 2015 15:19:23 -0400

Uhm, well, I am pretty partial to AOV. In this instance I'll go with FMJ!

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 10 at 2015 2:36 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 10 Apr 2015 14:36:42 -0400

FMJ Easy, not even a contest.

Response by SFC Michael Hasbun made Apr 10 at 2015 3:01 PM

SFC Michael Hasbun — Fri, 10 Apr 2015 15:01:42 -0400

I have to vote for Patton. While the first half of FMJ is legendary, that's about it. Once they leave bootcamp, the rest of the movie is throw away, irrelevant. Patton was great all the way through..

Response by Sgt Cody Dumont made Apr 10 at 2015 3:15 PM

Sgt Cody Dumont — Fri, 10 Apr 2015 15:15:09 -0400

Heartbreak ridge and the DI are best. Semper FI

Response by LTC Stephen C. made Apr 10 at 2015 3:18 PM

LTC Stephen C. — Fri, 10 Apr 2015 15:18:31 -0400

PO1 Private RallyPoint Member, I'm going with Patton.

Response by GySgt Wayne A. Ekblad made Apr 10 at 2015 3:18 PM

GySgt Wayne A. Ekblad — Fri, 10 Apr 2015 15:18:47 -0400

Without the slightest hesitation . . .

Response by Cpl Jeff N. made Apr 10 at 2015 4:37 PM

Cpl Jeff N. — Fri, 10 Apr 2015 16:37:29 -0400

A little tough. FMJ is fiction, Patton is real (not sure the movie is a true as it could be).

FMJ after Parris Island was weak. The Vietnam scenes were lame at points.

Neither would have been my choice. The Longest Day would have been. The cast was awesome, it was done with real respect to the troops that fought. Covered a lot of great bits of the landings and drops behind lines. Good perspective from the Gerrmans too.

FMJ/Patton would be a coin toss for me. I will give it to Patton because fact is almost always better than fiction.

Response by SFC Stephen Hester made Apr 10 at 2015 5:29 PM

SFC Stephen Hester — Fri, 10 Apr 2015 17:29:56 -0400

Old "Blood and Guts"!

Response by SFC Stephen King made Apr 10 at 2015 7:43 PM

SFC Stephen King — Fri, 10 Apr 2015 19:43:15 -0400

Patton: Now, an army is a team - it lives, eats, sleeps, fights as a team. This individuality stuff is a bunch of crap.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 11 at 2015 2:01 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 11 Apr 2015 14:01:08 -0400

Patton.

I love FMJ, but the fact remains that Patton is a biopic (with certain liberties taken) that helps demonstrate the audacious leader that he was and help establish his story with those who watch it. We can all take a little something away to help us be better leaders.

However, FMJ was amazing for portraying a certain image that, while possibly a bit over the top, helps put many humanized aspects of service into the light. It wasn't all glory. It was almost the exact opposite and it showed the emotional turmoil and stress that can be experienced in a military career.

Response by SCPO David Lockwood made Apr 13 at 2015 8:53 AM

SCPO David Lockwood — Mon, 13 Apr 2015 08:53:35 -0400

There is no way you can compare these two movies. Both are exceptional movies with storylines about the same subject but different eras. They are both awesome movies and should not be compared to each other.

Response by SPC Charles Brown made Apr 22 at 2015 4:54 PM

SPC Charles Brown — Wed, 22 Apr 2015 16:54:08 -0400

Seen and liked them both but I have to go with Patton. Perhaps the greatest motivational move he ever made was using his calf's leather gloves to slap a soldier he considered to be a coward. I have much respect for R. Lee Ermy and what he did in the Marines and since he became an actor, but Army dies hard in me and Patton, well, just Patton.

Response by CAPT Kevin B. made Apr 22 at 2015 5:00 PM

CAPT Kevin B. — Wed, 22 Apr 2015 17:00:40 -0400

Now I want you to remember that no bastard made Patton by dying for his country. He made the movie by making Full Metal Jacket die for his country in the second half.

R Lee is going to whack me for that one! Oh, no he won't. He was long gone at that point.

Response by PO1 Russell Henson made Oct 20 at 2015 4:09 PM

PO1 Russell Henson — Tue, 20 Oct 2015 16:09:31 -0400

Full Metal Jacket, but Patton is a strong second

Response by SFC Melvin Brandenburg made Jan 15 at 2021 12:42 PM

SFC Melvin Brandenburg — Fri, 15 Jan 2021 12:42:30 -0500

Patton

Response by PO1 John Johnson made Jan 16 at 2021 6:21 AM

PO1 John Johnson — Sat, 16 Jan 2021 06:21:32 -0500

I have to go with "We Were Soldiers".

Response by MSgt Don VandeBogert made Jan 16 at 2021 9:56 AM

MSgt Don VandeBogert — Sat, 16 Jan 2021 09:56:38 -0500

Patton. Great movie throughout.

FMJ still has the best beginning of any military movie. Close second is Gunny Highway's jail scene in Heartbreak Ridge: "Be advised. I'm mean, nasty and tired. I eat concertina wire and piss napalm and I can put a round in a flea's ass at 200 meters. So why don't you go hump somebody else's leg, mutt face, before I push yours in."

Shout outs to We Were Soldiers, Hacksaw Ridge, and Wind Talkers. Just watched those this past weekend. Some of my favorites.

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