QMP Appeal Process after results?

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 26 Apr 2015 16:59:56 -0400

So I was denied continued service. I was placed on the QMP list for receiving a 4 on my NCOER due to a failed weight in. I had multiple broken bones during that rating period. As soon as I healed the weight came off quick. What I found out was until a few weeks ago my unit did not update DTMS or remove my flag. So when I went in fron of the board it appeared I was still not in compliance. 1st can you appeal on this? And I do have appt with JAG and 2nd who reviews it and decides? I know the appeal has to go up my chain of command but that is all I have been able to find out.

Response by Capt Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 26 at 2015 5:17 PM

Capt Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 26 Apr 2015 17:17:15 -0400

Fight it as much as you can. And good luck.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 26 at 2015 5:44 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 26 Apr 2015 17:44:28 -0400

You can appeal due to missing documents like the flag removal. It may help.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 26 at 2015 5:50 PM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 26 Apr 2015 17:50:31 -0400

No pun intended. I too much weight is put on OERs/NCOERs. Promotion or rentention board shouldnt look back beyond or last rank or maybe 5 years at the most. Most civilian employers public or private could care less how you did 10 years ago.

Response by LTC Yinon Weiss made Apr 26 at 2015 9:09 PM

LTC Yinon Weiss — Sun, 26 Apr 2015 21:09:35 -0400

This is something SGM Matthew Quick may be able to respond to (please respond as a separate response to the original question -- not as a comment on this response).

Response by SGM Matthew Quick made Apr 26 at 2015 9:35 PM

SGM Matthew Quick — Sun, 26 Apr 2015 21:35:01 -0400

Did you appeal your NCOER? The current flag has nothing to do with the QMP...the 4 by the senior rater drove that train.

If you did not appeal your NCOER, this doesn't appear to be an appeal-able situation, but you hear many others say to appeal it anyway.

If your commanders (company, battalion, brigade) support your appeal, it'll be forwarded to HRC and the Transition Branch should be the ones to review your appeal.

Additionally...having been QMPed, you're ineligible to enlist/transfer into the reserve components and if under 18 years, you'll only receive 1/2 separation pay.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 28 at 2015 9:17 AM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 28 May 2015 09:17:12 -0400

If your at 18 you can elect to retire look at ar 635-200 chapter 19

Response by SFC Jeff Wonser made Jun 29 at 2015 3:31 PM

SFC Jeff Wonser — Mon, 29 Jun 2015 15:31:46 -0400

I realize that this question is pretty old, but I wanted to give a response as someone who saw their career cut short due to one evaluation in my records... Now, as far as appealing goes, there is not much that can be done, unfortunately. You see, the military is run just as our bloated government is-- inefficient, and compartmentalized. I appealed a report where my reviewer took revenge upon an eval I was due because I had initiated a compassionate reassingment request, and when the command stalled on the paperwork, I reached out to a Senator for assistance. This is an illegal act, but guess what? Unless that person who takes that route against you admits to the investigating officer, there is little that can be done. I have twice attempted to get this reversed through the ABCMR, and both times... nothing. The disparity is easy to see. I have a memorandum from my rater saying that he was given a direct order to sign the report without question. Common sense goes out the window. Good luck on your transition. Fighting an injustice is taxing on your emotional state. Embrace the fact that you got a retirement. Signed... Fast tracker turned 14-year Veteran without a retirement courtesy of the QSP board...

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 9 at 2015 6:37 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 09 Jul 2015 18:37:33 -0400

Were you up for promotion when they selected you?