Question for 92Y unit supply Nco’s?

2020-07-06T18:12:08-04:00

I’m close to ETS’ing and would like to know if I should buy the few items I’m missing for my TA50 turn in. Only because all my gear is ACU’s NOT OCP’s. Why buy obsolete gear that the army has already discarded into trash?

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 6 at 2020 6:13 PM

2020-07-06T18:13:43-04:00

I’m in the Guard btw not big Army.

Response by SGM Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 6 at 2020 9:33 PM

2020-07-06T21:33:27-04:00

You can buy it cheaper than what you will pay on CIF discharge.
FYI, the Army doesn't throw it in the trash, at least your state CIF doesn't, they turn in obsolete gear for money or new gear. That's why your CIF charges you for money if you don't turn it in.

Response by SPC Robbie Marks made Jul 7 at 2020 10:26 AM

2020-07-07T10:26:26-04:00

I was 92YA National Guard back in the 90's. My biggest thought here is, you don't want what we called it a "Statement of Charges." I've met some really good Supply Sergeants who would work with soldiers to find or replace your missing items. Unfortunately I have met a few that would take you to the cleaners for as much as they can. Bottom line is, if you signed for it, you're on the hook for it. The Army will get their money. Even the guy who lost a radio back in Vietnam. Years later when he joined the Guard, they made him pay for it. Sad but true.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 7 at 2020 4:36 PM

2020-07-07T16:36:53-04:00

DA Pam 735-5 shows the amount you are allowed to depreciate from lost equipment. You will save more money by going through your local supply because they can depreciate the maximum amount based on the type of equipment and the amount of time it has been in operation. Surplus stores are easy and very convenient but you actually end up paying more for CTA-50 items when compared to DD 362 or DD 200. Good luck.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 7 at 2020 10:55 PM

2020-07-07T22:55:33-04:00

I’m a currently serving AGR Supply NCO in the Guard. Ask your Supply SGT for a copy of your OCIE Record. He/she will have the access to give you this record. There will be a column on the form for ETS transaction items. If the letter “N” is in this column, you will need to turn it in. It does not matter if it is ACU, OCP, old, or new; Uncle Sam wants it back. Your Supply NCO also has the ability to draft a DD 362 (Statement it Charges) without submitting it to the receiving CIF. He/she will be able to tell you the exact amount to the cent that you will owe for your missing items. I do this when Soldiers leave my Company so they know what to expect and to give them time to come up with their missing items for a potentially cheaper cost to them. Good luck to you.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 13 at 2020 8:45 PM

2020-07-13T20:45:09-04:00

Because older gear cost less

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 20 at 2020 9:29 PM

2020-07-20T21:29:09-04:00

The circumstance of loss of OCIE and the dollar amount are important factors. If you did not loose the equipment out of negligence on your part but in circumstance that maybe outside your control including but not limited to theft, act of nature, field loss etc. You can and should request for a financial investigation of property loss (FLIPL). If the circumstance of loss is exonerating, then you may not have to pay for the equipment.

Response by SSG Paul Headlee made Aug 2 at 2020 9:46 PM

2020-08-02T21:46:09-04:00

Last I knew if you purchase via statement of charges there's a 10% discount. Disclaimer: This advice is laughably old.

Response by SFC Tammy Alexander made Sep 16 at 2020 7:23 PM

2020-09-16T19:23:27-04:00

I checked with other units and wheel and deal alot of times the other soldiers have extras and surplus stores in surrounding towns.