Posted on Feb 27, 2016
Questions for Tactical Unmanned Arial Systems (TUAS) Texhnicians (150U)
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Requesting general info and insight beyond what the USAREC website has to offer. Something, in a non-resume/bullet format describing daily scope, duties and expectations. Preferably, from those currently holding the MOS. Things like:
1. Day in the life of?
2. Expected additional duties?
3. Known duty stations?
4. Anyone re class into this from a completely unrelated MOS? If so, what?
5. Pro's & Con's to this MOS vs ??
6. What do you plan on doing with your experience after the military?
7. On average, how many people do you work directly with daily?
8. How's the endeavors been on your family (if applicable) thus far?
9. What is your position/responsibilities now?
10. What is your near/mid-term goal career-wise (before retirement) or next move?
11. If you could rewind 5-10 years, what would you do differently (career-wise)?
12. Any advice for an Infantryman considering the transition?
I'm sure responses will trigger more questions. But these will get me on my way. Thanks in advance.
1. Day in the life of?
2. Expected additional duties?
3. Known duty stations?
4. Anyone re class into this from a completely unrelated MOS? If so, what?
5. Pro's & Con's to this MOS vs ??
6. What do you plan on doing with your experience after the military?
7. On average, how many people do you work directly with daily?
8. How's the endeavors been on your family (if applicable) thus far?
9. What is your position/responsibilities now?
10. What is your near/mid-term goal career-wise (before retirement) or next move?
11. If you could rewind 5-10 years, what would you do differently (career-wise)?
12. Any advice for an Infantryman considering the transition?
I'm sure responses will trigger more questions. But these will get me on my way. Thanks in advance.
Posted 9 y ago
Responses: 1
I have lots of information for you, however, I have a few questions for you first. What makes you qualified to be a 150U? Have you worked with a 150U before?
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My reason for asking you these two questions are due to several 11B's asking me the same questions you are. I had made the assumption that they new about the new feeder MOSs for 150U, knew and understood the requirement for 11B, and had already accomplished those requirements. I was wrong in making that assumption with these guys and wasted an hour of talking only to find out neither of them knew what a Raven was.
Just to clarify:
•Open to US Army Combat Arms MOSs (11B, 11C, 11H, 11M, 12B; ALL CMF 12, 13, and 19 series) with Certified SUAS IO (MOS Prerequisite Waiver Required)
This line means that you have not only operated an RQ-11 Raven, but have also been to the Master Raven Trainer Course and currently a certified MRT (Master Raven Trainer).
Not to sound harsh or to crush your dreams, but nowhere in your reply to my first question did you mention anything about a Raven or any UAS for that matter. If you have been to the course I mentioned and have that certification then you are on the right track. If you have not, then it is never too late to start.
These new feeder MOSs is the cause for much discussion and irritation among current 150Us. I, for one, have a slightly different opinion on the matter than most. We are an undermanned MOS. The longer we stay undermanned the more deployments everyone has to do and less opportunities we have for broadening assignments. I am all for pumping out as many new 150Us as possible. However, the basic understanding of Raven ops, airspace, communications with airspace controllers, are the absolute bottom line basic skills required. Pumping the MOS full of Soldiers who are "self-starting, well-disciplined, highly motivated Leader who's eager to learn" isn't quite enough.
With all that being said, I will help you reach your goals because it benefits me and every other 150U in our goal of getting to 100% manned. My first bit of advice is to find the nearest 150U to your location. If you had a unit filled out in your profile, I could probably give you his name. However, I can tell you that every BCT should have 1 senior 150U on Brigade staff in the Brigade Aviation Element that could help you. Every BCT should also have a Shadow Platoon in their Military Intelligence Company (MICO) with 2 x 150Us that could help you. If your post has a Combat Aviation Brigade (CAB) they do or will have a Gray Eagle company with 10 x 150U slots. That same CAB should or will have a Shadow Company with 6 x 150U slots.
Let me know if you have any more questions.
Just to clarify:
•Open to US Army Combat Arms MOSs (11B, 11C, 11H, 11M, 12B; ALL CMF 12, 13, and 19 series) with Certified SUAS IO (MOS Prerequisite Waiver Required)
This line means that you have not only operated an RQ-11 Raven, but have also been to the Master Raven Trainer Course and currently a certified MRT (Master Raven Trainer).
Not to sound harsh or to crush your dreams, but nowhere in your reply to my first question did you mention anything about a Raven or any UAS for that matter. If you have been to the course I mentioned and have that certification then you are on the right track. If you have not, then it is never too late to start.
These new feeder MOSs is the cause for much discussion and irritation among current 150Us. I, for one, have a slightly different opinion on the matter than most. We are an undermanned MOS. The longer we stay undermanned the more deployments everyone has to do and less opportunities we have for broadening assignments. I am all for pumping out as many new 150Us as possible. However, the basic understanding of Raven ops, airspace, communications with airspace controllers, are the absolute bottom line basic skills required. Pumping the MOS full of Soldiers who are "self-starting, well-disciplined, highly motivated Leader who's eager to learn" isn't quite enough.
With all that being said, I will help you reach your goals because it benefits me and every other 150U in our goal of getting to 100% manned. My first bit of advice is to find the nearest 150U to your location. If you had a unit filled out in your profile, I could probably give you his name. However, I can tell you that every BCT should have 1 senior 150U on Brigade staff in the Brigade Aviation Element that could help you. Every BCT should also have a Shadow Platoon in their Military Intelligence Company (MICO) with 2 x 150Us that could help you. If your post has a Combat Aviation Brigade (CAB) they do or will have a Gray Eagle company with 10 x 150U slots. That same CAB should or will have a Shadow Company with 6 x 150U slots.
Let me know if you have any more questions.
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The "(MOS Prerequisite Waiver Required) immediately after the "with Certified SUAS IO" lead me believing this was something I could get around. It surely was not going stop me from seeking out more information on this profession. But enough about that.
We do have Ravens in our unit. Generally, operators of these are high-speed PFC's to SGT's at best. This was something I have not done when I was at these ranks. However, now that I know that this (in addition to MRTC & being certified MRT) will be required, I will surely look into it on my end. With NTC/JRTC rotations being inevitable, it seems as though proposals could be easy to bring forth.
I purposely chose not to complete my profile. This site is still relatively new to me and I felt it necessary to proceed with caution when it came to providing some of my information. The more I read, the more confident I feel about making my information public knowledge. That being said, I belong to 1-23 INF, 1-2 SBCT. If you think you've got someone who don't mind their ear being tugged on, I'd gratefully accept a POC or two. For your SA, any communications involving global will have to wait until next week as I have zero access until then.
We do have Ravens in our unit. Generally, operators of these are high-speed PFC's to SGT's at best. This was something I have not done when I was at these ranks. However, now that I know that this (in addition to MRTC & being certified MRT) will be required, I will surely look into it on my end. With NTC/JRTC rotations being inevitable, it seems as though proposals could be easy to bring forth.
I purposely chose not to complete my profile. This site is still relatively new to me and I felt it necessary to proceed with caution when it came to providing some of my information. The more I read, the more confident I feel about making my information public knowledge. That being said, I belong to 1-23 INF, 1-2 SBCT. If you think you've got someone who don't mind their ear being tugged on, I'd gratefully accept a POC or two. For your SA, any communications involving global will have to wait until next week as I have zero access until then.
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I meant to ask, do you personally think this position opening, or more specifically, it's requirements will remain the same for a while? I'd hate to stop what I'm doing now, start pursuing this path for 3-8 months (?) only to have it all be for nothing because this turned out to be a small window that closed before I had what I needed for a packet.
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I'm not 100% sure. We just had a large influx of former 58D pilots move over to 150Us. However, most of them are CW3 and higher meaning we will still have holes in the WO1 level. Building a WOCS packet should not keep you from doing your day job. I can't imagine anyone having the luxury of stopping what they are doing to submit a packet. The toughest part about becoming a WO is the packet. Mainly for the reason you just mentioned. Its too easy to get caught up with your daily work and forget about the packet. Many people will tell you no. No one will help you. You have to want it so bad that you don't take no for an answer. If you are an infantry soldier and want to become an Aviation Warrant Officer, the Army will have to back fill your slot. There are a lot of people that don't want to have to fill that slot. Based on the unit you mentioned I know who your CW5 150U at 7th ID is. Send me a message and I'll send you his email address. Assuming you fall under 7th ID at JBLM. I couldn't find any of the 150Us at the BAE and Shadow Platoon.
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