'Recoverable Offense'? Thoughts?

2014-04-14T23:54:26-04:00

As we all know, the military is in the midst of significant drawdown.

The Army (for instance), has increased the QMP parameters, implemented QSP, increased mandatory bar to reenlistment reasons and decreased promotions rates/opportunities.

Soldiers make mistakes...but, in your opinion, what mistake/offense should a service member NOT be able to come back from?

Example: A DUI should not be a recoverable offense...once a servicemember is convicted of or pleads down a DUI, their career should be over!

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 15 at 2014 12:11 AM

2014-04-15T00:11:04-04:00

Drug realted offenses, Safety related offenses in a leadership position, Sharp violations (I would include false accusations), child abuse

Response by SGT William B. made Apr 15 at 2014 2:13 AM

2014-04-15T02:13:19-04:00

1. Drug offenses, using or dealing.
2. Sexual abuse/harassment. Zero place for it.
3. Outright negligence of duties causing harm to personnel or mission.

I take an opposite viewpoint to accidents like the negligent discharges, etc. Don't get me wrong: these are potentially REALLY bad things to have happen, but so long as no one is hurt and it's not a repeated pattern of life (ie. the servicemember LEARNS from the mistake), it'd be something I'd be willing to overlook.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 15 at 2014 2:15 AM

2014-04-15T02:15:48-04:00

Its a "prisoner of his time" kinda thing. During the night of the war, people got away with damn near murder, now just saying the wrong thing will get you booted out.

Response by CW2 Joseph Evans made Apr 15 at 2014 2:18 AM

2014-04-15T02:18:28-04:00

1. Drugs
1. SHARP
1. Theft
1. DUI/ Alcohol Incident
1. Assault/Battery
1. Domestic Violence/Abuse

Keeping in mind they should have been put out for any of these things before too....

Response by MSG Wade Huffman made Apr 15 at 2014 6:48 AM

2014-04-15T06:48:38-04:00

Great question, but lets take it one step farther. IF there were to be offenses deemed "unrecoverable" (and I agree for the most part with all that have been mentioned already), there would also have to be MANDATORY charges that go along with them in order to prevent any instances of double standards (or the perception of double standards) in this regard. We've all seen it in the past, especially with DUI charges, where certain individuals are allowed to skate no mention of the offense in their service record.

Response by SFC William Swartz Jr made Apr 15 at 2014 8:27 AM

2014-04-15T08:27:52-04:00

DUIs, any drug related offense, any substantiated SHARP offense; I believe that any of these, where a conviction or substantiated offense is established are or should be non-recoverable offenses.