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What do you think of his statements?<br />--<br />Don’t look now, but a retired Air Force 4-star just proved that you can achieve the highest rank in the military and still be wrong.<br /><br />In a letter published in Air Force Times, General (ret.) Roger Brady castigates airmen who have spoken to Congress about the A-10, portraying them as unruly. His words include a demeaning insistence that those who are not senior-most officials “have neither the responsibility nor the perspective required to determine how best to meet the Air Force’s myriad global missions within the resources available.”<br /><br />This is offensive and alienating to scores of educated, experienced professionals who have willingly given their lives to the cause of national defense in an era of perpetual conflict, only to have themselves portrayed as an unwashed underclass who are to be seen and not heard.<br /><br />Brady’s letter goes on to characterize disagreement within the A-10 discussion as “not about free speech … [but] about good order and discipline.” After expressing puzzlement that airmen might “see it as their responsibility or obligation to lend their voices to the discussion,” Brady delivers a coup de grace by labeling those who express their views to elected representatives as “insubordinate.”<br /><br />Here, Brady does what got Maj. Gen. James Post reprimanded: he attempts to criminalize a protected right to speak with Congress. Like Post, Brady fundamentally misapprehends the limit of general officer authority. If the right to communicate with an elected representative is protected — which it is — there can be no judgment by Brady or anyone else as to the content of that communication. Whether an airman is agreeing or disagreeing with the chain of command is immaterial and no one’s business. That’s what “protected” means. It’s a disgrace that such protections are necessary, but Brady’s letter illustrates why they exist. His words carry that how dare you defy me tone that can sometimes signal impending reprisal.<br /><br />★ ★ ★ ★ ★<br /><br /><br />Criminalizing disagreement is the kind of fascist nonsense that would be right at home in the North Korean military. It has absolutely no place in any American public agency. Our nation is premised on rejecting fealty and tolerating opposing views. Our Air Force has an implied duty to affirm those ideals in its own culture. To believe a free society can be vindicated by an unquestioning, conformist air service where serfs surrender their dignity and agency to lords is misguided in the extreme.<br /><br />But it’s also contemptible.<br /><br />Insubordination is a term of art. It refers to a subordinate in a superior-subordinate relationship willfully disobeying a lawful command. It is a crime under the punitive articles of the Uniformed Code of Military Justice. It is punishable by Court Martial. In time of war, it is punishable by death.<br /><br />Nothing that has happened in the A-10 debate comes close to fitting within this definition. General Brady should know better than to imply otherwise. For him to suggest that airmen exercising clearly protected speech are guilty of a crime is outrageous, and hostile to federal law.<br /><br />Airmen are still citizens. They’re still entitled to individual opinions, liberated thoughts, and free expression. There are special limits on what they can say and do, but those limits don’t invite the total imposition of command authority over every aspect of an airman’s life and conduct. Whether Brady genuinely believes advancing the opposite notion to be in the national interest or is simply propounding his own worldview is irrelevant. It’s wrong either way, and that makes him wrong even if his intentions are pure.<br /><br />What makes his approach especially objectionable is that it seeks to substitute control where leadership should predominate. Air Force leaders never bothered to meaningfully consult or persuade their own Close Air Support community on the plan to divest the A-10. They never bothered to lead on the issue. That community has reacted by finding ways to have their voices heard. Unable or unwilling to persuade them through a competition of ideas, the service now seeks to control them.<br /><br />Or maybe it’s only Brady who wants to do so. It’s hard to tell, given the parallels between his rhetoric and previous comments made by Welsh, Post, and other officials. All seek to marginalize those who disagree as “emotional.”<br /><br />★ ★ ★ ★ ★<br /><br />Congress needs as much information as it can gather before deciding how to spend scarce taxpayer dollars to optimize national defense. Not just from “authorized” executive branch mouthpieces, but from Americans who actually have timely, relevant expertise and a proven passion for defending their country in the war they’ve been handed rather the one they’d hoped for. The vast majority of these types don’t wear stars or work in a headquarters building.<br /><br />We should be heartened that rank-and-file airmen are doing their civic duty. That they would use the political process to pursue their interests in the future defense of our nation is a good thing, and a fortifying influence on our defense rather than a harmful one. It’s inconvenient, yes. But that’s the cost of living in a free society.<br /><br />Neither rank nor power can alone imbue credibility, something a 40-plus-year military veteran should know. Senior officials are rightly considered experts in the organization, training, and equipment needed to field forces and fight war. But Americans and their representatives also need to hear from practitioners on how big picture programs translate into tactical and operational realities.<br /><br />Air Force generals don’t have great credibility in that regard. Despite its superb airmen, the service failed repeatedly to innovate in the last dozen years, to the point that former Secretary of Defense Gates was moved to excoriate its lethargic culture, remarking that “[b]ecause people were stuck in old ways of doing business, it’s been like pulling teeth” getting the Air Force to adapt. His remarks came on the heels of Brady’s nearly four-year tenure at the helm of all Air Force personnel programs.<br /><br />Sequestration has brought with it a dawning reality for Congress and the American people that making informed decisions about how to spend hundreds of billions of dollars can’t solely mean consulting with senior officials, who lack operational recency and have shown repeatedly that they are disinclined to allow expertise within the ranks to bubble up and into budget discussions. This point Brady unintentionally reinforces with his letter.<br /><br />Spending resources wisely means talking to people who have actually deployed and fought in the post-9/11 military, a roster that doesn’t include General Brady or very many of his high-ranking colleagues.<br /><br />★ ★ ★ ★ ★<br /><br />Brady’s letter is another indication of confusion among Air Force generals about the difference between power and legal authority. The former, no matter how great, cannot overcome limits placed on the latter. The unmooring of power from reason among military leaders is cause for concern in Congress and elsewhere. Without properly calibrated power relationships, the services will not think, prepare, or train effectively. They’ll be flat-footed when danger calls. The price will be exacted in blood.<br /><br />At the risk of giving the general a more robust response than his letter deserves, there’s something else that needs to be said here.<br /><br />This letter is incredibly smug coming from General Brady.<br /><br />His generation of leaders inherited a healthy Air Force and did their best to put it into an unrecoverable spin. The years that followed the 9/11 attacks should have been a time for airmen to full-heartedly and proudly demonstrate airpower’s worth and to have their honor affirmed in the process. Instead, the service tarred itself with one misstep after another, all originating at or near the top.<br /><br />There was constant, unnecessary bickering over theater control of joint airpower at a time when cooperation on doctrinal matters would have cost the Air Force absolutely nothing worth defending. There was a stubbornly defiant campaign to resist developing and fielding urgently needed airborne reconnaissance assets. Most distressingly, there was a string of managerial calamities culminating in the nuclear incidents that triggered the coincident sacking of a service chief and secretary. In too many relevant ways, the service is still reeling from these and many other errors.<br /><br />Along the way, the service traded thousands of manpower billets for modernized aircraft, all the while constructing a deployment system that guaranteed unchallengeable personnel abuses for the sake of “joint” appearances. Many of the airmen Brady was lecturing in his letter have more years away from home than he has stars in his shadow box, and some of those years have been unnecessary, part of a craven political gambit to keep the service perceptually relevant enough to argue credibly for its place at the budgetary feeding trough. <br /><br />What was the Air Staff doing while this was all unfolding? Negotiating (improperly) an expensive new Thunderbird visual services contract (despite having met recruitment goals for as long as anyone could remember), gutting squadron staffs and replacing them with centralized and ineffective micromanagement of human resources, and setting the conditions for a pilot shortage that now threatens to compromise the service’s fundamental viability in its core missions.<br /><br />Today’s airmen are not benefactors of such “leadership.” They’re survivors of it. To be publicly scolded now and told to basically stay quiet and get back to work is not something they welcome.<br /><br />★ ★ ★ ★ ★<br /><br />The unfolding story of the modern Air Force is one of mismanagement at the top rescued by perseverance, grit, and superior performance at squadron level. So it shouldn’t surprise anyone that when it comes to the A-10, the same thing has been happening. Senior officials have butchered the discussion and lost credibility. The debate has been rescued by straight talk and combat-relevant truth channeled from street level. That and the personal, privately rendered, legally protected opinions of airpower practitioners who also happen to be civic-minded and fully entitled American citizens.<br /><br />What we’re seeing is a long-simmering reaction to a long period of strangled and propaganda-driven internal communication. The Air Force has asked airmen to choose between doing what is right and what is loyal, a choice which free men and women always recognize as alien to their way of life. It has asked them to set aside what they believe is moral and to instead yield to authority because of where it emanates. They’re unwilling to go along on that rationale, and we should thank our lucky stars that is the case.<br /><br />The expression of learned opinion that happens to disagree with power — whether rendered to Congress or the Avon Lady — is not insubordination. It is moral courage. With more of it, we might have a fighting chance at a well-defended nation. This is the common ground we should be striving to stand upon; not what’s in the interest of, most convenient for, or most comfortable for general officers or senior executives, but what’s best for the country.<br /><br />In the meantime, generals both active and retired should be working hard to regain the trust and confidence of those they lead, rather than telling them to basically shut up and color.<br /><br /><a target="_blank" href="http://www.jqpublicblog.com/refuting-a-retired-generals-misguided-message/">http://www.jqpublicblog.com/refuting-a-retired-generals-misguided-message/</a> "Refuting a Retired General’s Misguided Message" 2015-05-13T14:40:31-04:00 RallyPoint Team 664935 <div class="images-v2-count-1"><div class="content-picture image-v2-number-1" id="image-40362"> <div class="social_icons social-buttons-on-image"> <a href='https://www.facebook.com/sharer/sharer.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallypoint.com%2Fanswers%2Frefuting-a-retired-general-s-misguided-message%3Futm_source%3DFacebook%26utm_medium%3Dorganic%26utm_campaign%3DShare%20to%20facebook' target="_blank" class='social-share-button facebook-share-button'><i class="fa fa-facebook-f"></i></a> <a href="https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?text=%22Refuting+a+Retired+General%E2%80%99s+Misguided+Message%22&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallypoint.com%2Fanswers%2Frefuting-a-retired-general-s-misguided-message&amp;via=RallyPoint" target="_blank" class="social-share-button twitter-custom-share-button"><i class="fa fa-twitter"></i></a> <a href="mailto:?subject=Check this out on RallyPoint!&body=Hi, I thought you would find this interesting:%0D%0A&quot;Refuting a Retired General’s Misguided Message&quot;%0D%0A %0D%0AHere is the link: https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/refuting-a-retired-general-s-misguided-message" target="_blank" class="social-share-button email-share-button"><i class="fa fa-envelope"></i></a> </div> <a class="fancybox" rel="613cf1c159c8edb2441cadb6b586c10c" href="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/040/362/for_gallery_v2/Screen-Shot-2015-05-07-at-2.00.32-PM.jpg"><img src="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/040/362/large_v3/Screen-Shot-2015-05-07-at-2.00.32-PM.jpg" alt="Screen shot 2015 05 07 at 2.00.32 pm" /></a></div></div>The following was originally published on jqpublicblog.com from author Tony Carr. What do you think of his statements?<br />--<br />Don’t look now, but a retired Air Force 4-star just proved that you can achieve the highest rank in the military and still be wrong.<br /><br />In a letter published in Air Force Times, General (ret.) Roger Brady castigates airmen who have spoken to Congress about the A-10, portraying them as unruly. His words include a demeaning insistence that those who are not senior-most officials “have neither the responsibility nor the perspective required to determine how best to meet the Air Force’s myriad global missions within the resources available.”<br /><br />This is offensive and alienating to scores of educated, experienced professionals who have willingly given their lives to the cause of national defense in an era of perpetual conflict, only to have themselves portrayed as an unwashed underclass who are to be seen and not heard.<br /><br />Brady’s letter goes on to characterize disagreement within the A-10 discussion as “not about free speech … [but] about good order and discipline.” After expressing puzzlement that airmen might “see it as their responsibility or obligation to lend their voices to the discussion,” Brady delivers a coup de grace by labeling those who express their views to elected representatives as “insubordinate.”<br /><br />Here, Brady does what got Maj. Gen. James Post reprimanded: he attempts to criminalize a protected right to speak with Congress. Like Post, Brady fundamentally misapprehends the limit of general officer authority. If the right to communicate with an elected representative is protected — which it is — there can be no judgment by Brady or anyone else as to the content of that communication. Whether an airman is agreeing or disagreeing with the chain of command is immaterial and no one’s business. That’s what “protected” means. It’s a disgrace that such protections are necessary, but Brady’s letter illustrates why they exist. His words carry that how dare you defy me tone that can sometimes signal impending reprisal.<br /><br />★ ★ ★ ★ ★<br /><br /><br />Criminalizing disagreement is the kind of fascist nonsense that would be right at home in the North Korean military. It has absolutely no place in any American public agency. Our nation is premised on rejecting fealty and tolerating opposing views. Our Air Force has an implied duty to affirm those ideals in its own culture. To believe a free society can be vindicated by an unquestioning, conformist air service where serfs surrender their dignity and agency to lords is misguided in the extreme.<br /><br />But it’s also contemptible.<br /><br />Insubordination is a term of art. It refers to a subordinate in a superior-subordinate relationship willfully disobeying a lawful command. It is a crime under the punitive articles of the Uniformed Code of Military Justice. It is punishable by Court Martial. In time of war, it is punishable by death.<br /><br />Nothing that has happened in the A-10 debate comes close to fitting within this definition. General Brady should know better than to imply otherwise. For him to suggest that airmen exercising clearly protected speech are guilty of a crime is outrageous, and hostile to federal law.<br /><br />Airmen are still citizens. They’re still entitled to individual opinions, liberated thoughts, and free expression. There are special limits on what they can say and do, but those limits don’t invite the total imposition of command authority over every aspect of an airman’s life and conduct. Whether Brady genuinely believes advancing the opposite notion to be in the national interest or is simply propounding his own worldview is irrelevant. It’s wrong either way, and that makes him wrong even if his intentions are pure.<br /><br />What makes his approach especially objectionable is that it seeks to substitute control where leadership should predominate. Air Force leaders never bothered to meaningfully consult or persuade their own Close Air Support community on the plan to divest the A-10. They never bothered to lead on the issue. That community has reacted by finding ways to have their voices heard. Unable or unwilling to persuade them through a competition of ideas, the service now seeks to control them.<br /><br />Or maybe it’s only Brady who wants to do so. It’s hard to tell, given the parallels between his rhetoric and previous comments made by Welsh, Post, and other officials. All seek to marginalize those who disagree as “emotional.”<br /><br />★ ★ ★ ★ ★<br /><br />Congress needs as much information as it can gather before deciding how to spend scarce taxpayer dollars to optimize national defense. Not just from “authorized” executive branch mouthpieces, but from Americans who actually have timely, relevant expertise and a proven passion for defending their country in the war they’ve been handed rather the one they’d hoped for. The vast majority of these types don’t wear stars or work in a headquarters building.<br /><br />We should be heartened that rank-and-file airmen are doing their civic duty. That they would use the political process to pursue their interests in the future defense of our nation is a good thing, and a fortifying influence on our defense rather than a harmful one. It’s inconvenient, yes. But that’s the cost of living in a free society.<br /><br />Neither rank nor power can alone imbue credibility, something a 40-plus-year military veteran should know. Senior officials are rightly considered experts in the organization, training, and equipment needed to field forces and fight war. But Americans and their representatives also need to hear from practitioners on how big picture programs translate into tactical and operational realities.<br /><br />Air Force generals don’t have great credibility in that regard. Despite its superb airmen, the service failed repeatedly to innovate in the last dozen years, to the point that former Secretary of Defense Gates was moved to excoriate its lethargic culture, remarking that “[b]ecause people were stuck in old ways of doing business, it’s been like pulling teeth” getting the Air Force to adapt. His remarks came on the heels of Brady’s nearly four-year tenure at the helm of all Air Force personnel programs.<br /><br />Sequestration has brought with it a dawning reality for Congress and the American people that making informed decisions about how to spend hundreds of billions of dollars can’t solely mean consulting with senior officials, who lack operational recency and have shown repeatedly that they are disinclined to allow expertise within the ranks to bubble up and into budget discussions. This point Brady unintentionally reinforces with his letter.<br /><br />Spending resources wisely means talking to people who have actually deployed and fought in the post-9/11 military, a roster that doesn’t include General Brady or very many of his high-ranking colleagues.<br /><br />★ ★ ★ ★ ★<br /><br />Brady’s letter is another indication of confusion among Air Force generals about the difference between power and legal authority. The former, no matter how great, cannot overcome limits placed on the latter. The unmooring of power from reason among military leaders is cause for concern in Congress and elsewhere. Without properly calibrated power relationships, the services will not think, prepare, or train effectively. They’ll be flat-footed when danger calls. The price will be exacted in blood.<br /><br />At the risk of giving the general a more robust response than his letter deserves, there’s something else that needs to be said here.<br /><br />This letter is incredibly smug coming from General Brady.<br /><br />His generation of leaders inherited a healthy Air Force and did their best to put it into an unrecoverable spin. The years that followed the 9/11 attacks should have been a time for airmen to full-heartedly and proudly demonstrate airpower’s worth and to have their honor affirmed in the process. Instead, the service tarred itself with one misstep after another, all originating at or near the top.<br /><br />There was constant, unnecessary bickering over theater control of joint airpower at a time when cooperation on doctrinal matters would have cost the Air Force absolutely nothing worth defending. There was a stubbornly defiant campaign to resist developing and fielding urgently needed airborne reconnaissance assets. Most distressingly, there was a string of managerial calamities culminating in the nuclear incidents that triggered the coincident sacking of a service chief and secretary. In too many relevant ways, the service is still reeling from these and many other errors.<br /><br />Along the way, the service traded thousands of manpower billets for modernized aircraft, all the while constructing a deployment system that guaranteed unchallengeable personnel abuses for the sake of “joint” appearances. Many of the airmen Brady was lecturing in his letter have more years away from home than he has stars in his shadow box, and some of those years have been unnecessary, part of a craven political gambit to keep the service perceptually relevant enough to argue credibly for its place at the budgetary feeding trough. <br /><br />What was the Air Staff doing while this was all unfolding? Negotiating (improperly) an expensive new Thunderbird visual services contract (despite having met recruitment goals for as long as anyone could remember), gutting squadron staffs and replacing them with centralized and ineffective micromanagement of human resources, and setting the conditions for a pilot shortage that now threatens to compromise the service’s fundamental viability in its core missions.<br /><br />Today’s airmen are not benefactors of such “leadership.” They’re survivors of it. To be publicly scolded now and told to basically stay quiet and get back to work is not something they welcome.<br /><br />★ ★ ★ ★ ★<br /><br />The unfolding story of the modern Air Force is one of mismanagement at the top rescued by perseverance, grit, and superior performance at squadron level. So it shouldn’t surprise anyone that when it comes to the A-10, the same thing has been happening. Senior officials have butchered the discussion and lost credibility. The debate has been rescued by straight talk and combat-relevant truth channeled from street level. That and the personal, privately rendered, legally protected opinions of airpower practitioners who also happen to be civic-minded and fully entitled American citizens.<br /><br />What we’re seeing is a long-simmering reaction to a long period of strangled and propaganda-driven internal communication. The Air Force has asked airmen to choose between doing what is right and what is loyal, a choice which free men and women always recognize as alien to their way of life. It has asked them to set aside what they believe is moral and to instead yield to authority because of where it emanates. They’re unwilling to go along on that rationale, and we should thank our lucky stars that is the case.<br /><br />The expression of learned opinion that happens to disagree with power — whether rendered to Congress or the Avon Lady — is not insubordination. It is moral courage. With more of it, we might have a fighting chance at a well-defended nation. This is the common ground we should be striving to stand upon; not what’s in the interest of, most convenient for, or most comfortable for general officers or senior executives, but what’s best for the country.<br /><br />In the meantime, generals both active and retired should be working hard to regain the trust and confidence of those they lead, rather than telling them to basically shut up and color.<br /><br /><a target="_blank" href="http://www.jqpublicblog.com/refuting-a-retired-generals-misguided-message/">http://www.jqpublicblog.com/refuting-a-retired-generals-misguided-message/</a> "Refuting a Retired General’s Misguided Message" 2015-05-13T14:40:31-04:00 2015-05-13T14:40:31-04:00 1SG Private RallyPoint Member 664954 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Great article, it just puzzles me how people wether retired or still serving and move up in the ranks and forget where they come from. He should know better then to say these degrading remarks and even question or respond to what airmen are saying to congress. If I am correct we vote the congress in and they work for us so I say keep talking to them it is your right and don't take any repriasal from anyone that don't like what you say to them. Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made May 13 at 2015 2:48 PM 2015-05-13T14:48:44-04:00 2015-05-13T14:48:44-04:00 Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS 665019 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Excellent article.<br /><br />To draw a parallel. Would an Army or Marine General ever say a Soldier or Marine was Insubordinate for Disagreeing with the Services Respective Tattoo Policies? Not adhering to them, but disagreeing with them? That&#39;s what this is. It&#39;s an expression of &quot;disagreement with policy decision.&quot;<br /><br />We&#39;re allowed to disagree with policy. We&#39;ve always been allowed to disagree with policy. We have to adhere to, and enforce policy, but we don&#39;t have to like it. Furthermore, Compelled Speech is anything but Free Speech. And I think that is where this &quot;grey line&quot; is coming to a head.<br /><br />It&#39;s one thing to say &quot;shut up and deal with it&quot; (which even then is &#39;iffy&#39;), but he&#39;s pushed this to the point where failure to agree has become Compelled Speech... which is just wrong. No other words. Response by Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS made May 13 at 2015 3:10 PM 2015-05-13T15:10:52-04:00 2015-05-13T15:10:52-04:00 MSgt James Mullis 665025 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>The article seems to sum things up quite well. I&#39;ve found that sometimes people given the authority to do something (Senior Leadership) often detest having to explain why they did something. In my time, I worked under two commanders who lost their commands (and careers) by telling troops they could not talk to their congressman. Well, that&#39;s not quite true, in one of the cases the commander ordered a MSgt to tell his mom, that she couldn&#39;t talk to her Senator about a violation of Air Force Regulations that was harmful to the career of her son. Response by MSgt James Mullis made May 13 at 2015 3:13 PM 2015-05-13T15:13:20-04:00 2015-05-13T15:13:20-04:00 Maj Chris Nelson 665055 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Well, I guess he has quite proven that the title IDIOT holds no bounds!! I think he has just swallowed his foot, leg, other leg, and maybe his ass..... Retired or not, he is wrong and someone up high on the food chain needs to straighten him out on what is correct. Response by Maj Chris Nelson made May 13 at 2015 3:26 PM 2015-05-13T15:26:19-04:00 2015-05-13T15:26:19-04:00 Lt Col Michael Hills 665734 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>An outstanding thought piece that one would hope might motivate those still wearing four stars in the Air Force to take a long hard look at in terms of where the service finds itself and introspectively examine their part in it and what they can do to change the direction. While the A-10 debate may have been the trigger, whether it stays or goes, the real issue here is about leadership. Response by Lt Col Michael Hills made May 13 at 2015 7:31 PM 2015-05-13T19:31:51-04:00 2015-05-13T19:31:51-04:00 SSgt Private RallyPoint Member 665751 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>He is technically correct, however we cant let gold-clad bean-counters kill our ground troops by neglecting the single most important battle implement since the M-1 Garand, the A-10. Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made May 13 at 2015 7:38 PM 2015-05-13T19:38:01-04:00 2015-05-13T19:38:01-04:00 TSgt Tim (lj) Littlejohn 667473 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Follow the money. He did not get 4 stars being an idiot. Find out whose payroll he's on (defense contractor). That will help explain his piss poor statements. After retirement most senior leadership is for sale to the highest bidder, notice I said most not all. Response by TSgt Tim (lj) Littlejohn made May 14 at 2015 12:02 PM 2015-05-14T12:02:18-04:00 2015-05-14T12:02:18-04:00 SFC Mark Merino 668686 <div class="images-v2-count-1"><div class="content-picture image-v2-number-1" id="image-40587"> <div class="social_icons social-buttons-on-image"> <a href='https://www.facebook.com/sharer/sharer.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallypoint.com%2Fanswers%2Frefuting-a-retired-general-s-misguided-message%3Futm_source%3DFacebook%26utm_medium%3Dorganic%26utm_campaign%3DShare%20to%20facebook' target="_blank" class='social-share-button facebook-share-button'><i class="fa fa-facebook-f"></i></a> <a href="https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?text=%22Refuting+a+Retired+General%E2%80%99s+Misguided+Message%22&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallypoint.com%2Fanswers%2Frefuting-a-retired-general-s-misguided-message&amp;via=RallyPoint" target="_blank" class="social-share-button twitter-custom-share-button"><i class="fa fa-twitter"></i></a> <a href="mailto:?subject=Check this out on RallyPoint!&body=Hi, I thought you would find this interesting:%0D%0A&quot;Refuting a Retired General’s Misguided Message&quot;%0D%0A %0D%0AHere is the link: https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/refuting-a-retired-general-s-misguided-message" target="_blank" class="social-share-button email-share-button"><i class="fa fa-envelope"></i></a> </div> <a class="fancybox" rel="1b006ecc08f9c5f74cb7ce789fb39c82" href="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/040/587/for_gallery_v2/Untitled.jpg"><img src="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/040/587/large_v3/Untitled.jpg" alt="Untitled" /></a></div></div>Well written and great points <a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="332046" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/332046-rallypoint-team">RallyPoint Team</a>. You certainly had your Wheaties this morning. From this "insubordinate and unqualified" veteran, I say long live the A-10! I am grateful for everyone who has done their part to bring this horrific decision to the awareness of the public. For everyone who got burned or took a heat round for making their voices heard, I say "Well Done." Response by SFC Mark Merino made May 14 at 2015 6:46 PM 2015-05-14T18:46:25-04:00 2015-05-14T18:46:25-04:00 MSgt Private RallyPoint Member 668735 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>We have way too many Generals in all branches of service today. They are treated way too well, paid way too much, and given too much power. It has all gone to their heads, and this is what happens.<br /><br />The second problem is that when they retire, and collect too much - they think they are still relevant. If they are, they shouldn't be. You are retired - be retired, shut the hell up, and go fishing.<br /><br />Jerk needs to remember how he got promoted - us unwashed masses doing our job and excelling at what we do. A little more appreciation and a little less elitism is in order. Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made May 14 at 2015 7:09 PM 2015-05-14T19:09:19-04:00 2015-05-14T19:09:19-04:00 CPT Jack Durish 668856 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Generally, when subordinates begin &quot;jumping the chain of command&quot; it is because they feel that the upper echelons have failed to listen to their input. When the upper echelons complain about subordinates voicing their opinions outside of the chain of command it is because they have been caught ignoring the input of subordinates.<br /><br />Doesn&#39;t every leader know and understand this? Response by CPT Jack Durish made May 14 at 2015 8:16 PM 2015-05-14T20:16:22-04:00 2015-05-14T20:16:22-04:00 SFC Robert Wheeler 668975 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>That was the best display of intellectual suicide I have ever seen! Response by SFC Robert Wheeler made May 14 at 2015 9:06 PM 2015-05-14T21:06:53-04:00 2015-05-14T21:06:53-04:00 MAJ Ken Landgren 669103 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Why so much animosity for the A-10? Is it because the AF does not want to conduct CAS? Is it an ugly plane? Is it because it&#39;s a Cold War Plane? It defies logic. Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made May 14 at 2015 10:20 PM 2015-05-14T22:20:59-04:00 2015-05-14T22:20:59-04:00 SMSgt Dan Powell 682691 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>A General who understood leadership, one George Washington said &quot;When we assumed the soldier, we did not lay aside the citizen&quot;. Nuff said! Response by SMSgt Dan Powell made May 20 at 2015 10:57 AM 2015-05-20T10:57:50-04:00 2015-05-20T10:57:50-04:00 SCPO Private RallyPoint Member 682746 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Let me add a big DITTO to many of the remarks on this discussion. First, everyone has an opinion. But, as I learned in the military and in civilian law enforcement, if you want an, oftentimes, more valid opinion of "the war," ask the man in the foxhole or the officer in the patrol car in the dark, city alley, rather than the general fifty miles behind the front or the police brass back at GHQ, sitting a desk. Many, many moons ago, I had the president of the Board of Police Commissioners do a few "ride alongs" with me. That was all it took for him to know who to call on occasion when he wanted an opinion right from the streets. <br /><br />BTW, the very thought of deleting the A-10 from our military arsenal could be equated with the decision made prior to 12/07/1941 to group all the planes together on the tarmacs. Not very smart!!! Response by SCPO Private RallyPoint Member made May 20 at 2015 11:18 AM 2015-05-20T11:18:17-04:00 2015-05-20T11:18:17-04:00 MSG Private RallyPoint Member 685240 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>You had me at hello!!!! I stopped reading your book after three paragraphs. While there is a point I agree with, there is also a point that it seemed you became anti-general Brady. You lost me. So I started to back gen Brady. So I stopped reading, went back to the first two paragraphs, and went back to believing in your point. Just food for thought. With so many people posting negativity online, it's hard to believe in anyone's reporting. You went overboard and think maybe next time, don't. Just my thoughts. Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 20 at 2015 11:14 PM 2015-05-20T23:14:33-04:00 2015-05-20T23:14:33-04:00 CWO2 Shelby DuBois 832503 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>If you stuck around the military for a couple decades you have probably seen more often than not, that people that go over the heads of their leaders are usually always proven wrong. It's rare that people have a full understanding or all the facts needed to make a cogent case for going up the chain. So I understand his frustration. How many times have you worked your butt off to get a mission going and then given an order and then had a bunch of eye rolling from junior O's or enlisteds who 'know better', ' been there' 'told the old man' or ' we tried that already'.. From guys and gals who know nothing but prior history or anecdotal stories... who were not there for your days of briefings, study and thought that went into your plan? (that never happened to me, of course, its my story.) These A-10 arguments are about 10 times above most everyone on this page's pay grade. They have data that none of us will ever see. So we form opinions based on anecdotal evidence. Both sides of the argument push out information that their side wants to hear so they'll beat the drum one way or another. I think the Gen was venting and if so.. more power to him.. had this article not appeared here I am betting none of us would have ever heard his name and only his family would have to hear about his great " boy, I told them," speech at dinner every night. Response by CWO2 Shelby DuBois made Jul 21 at 2015 4:29 PM 2015-07-21T16:29:55-04:00 2015-07-21T16:29:55-04:00 SGT William Howell 1639271 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Anybody want to guess what division of the F-35 program he has been hired to?<br /><br />Oh and A-10s Forever!!!!!!! Response by SGT William Howell made Jun 17 at 2016 10:33 AM 2016-06-17T10:33:19-04:00 2016-06-17T10:33:19-04:00 MSgt Mark Bucher 2291523 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>He&#39;s a member of the fighter pilot mafia. They don&#39;t like the A-10 and it&#39;s mission because it&#39;s not sexy enough. The plane is based on simple technology with a simple mission. Wonder what Ron Fogelman would say about all of this? he was the only AF CoS who wasn&#39;t a fighter pilot, he was an old MAC guy. Response by MSgt Mark Bucher made Jan 28 at 2017 4:21 PM 2017-01-28T16:21:35-05:00 2017-01-28T16:21:35-05:00 2015-05-13T14:40:31-04:00