RFI issue boots not authorized for garrison use?

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 14 Jun 2019 07:56:05 -0400

So I was issued a few pairs of these boots through RFI but was recently told they are not authorized for garrison use due to the fact that the sole wraps around the heel and toes. Now to me I dont think that I would count that material as the sole of the shoe but that's just me. I mainly just found it odd that they would issue non authorized boots so I wanted get your opinions on if they were actually not authorized

Response by SFC(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 14 at 2019 8:38 AM

SFC(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 14 Jun 2019 08:38:20 -0400

"The soling materials will not exceed 2 inches in height, when measured from the bottom of the outsole, and will not extend up the back of the heel or boot or over the top of the toe."

So to what I have read it seems like it is out of reg but defiantly find it a little crazy they would issue you something out of reg. I would see what you COC can do about that since these were issued to you. I have 2 new coyote boots issued to me and neither look like this. But neither are as comfortable as the new Nike coyote boots I have. Unless doing and inspection I wouldn't go nuts over these since you have the proof they were issued to you I would actually figure out the reason y and correct it if they are truthfully out of regulation.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 14 at 2019 9:15 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 14 Jun 2019 09:15:33 -0400

Theyre mountain boots for afghsnistan. They dont meet regulstion do therefor arent authorized in garrison. Used to deal with this all the time before ocp becsme officisl, with multicam uniforms.

Response by SGT(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 14 at 2019 9:52 AM

SGT(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 14 Jun 2019 09:52:09 -0400

Those boots are garbage anyways. I’ve been issued them twice and both blew out fairly quickly.

Response by SFC Michael D. made Jun 14 at 2019 10:44 AM

SFC Michael D. — Fri, 14 Jun 2019 10:44:59 -0400

The hours I spent spit shining boots and we could have had these the whole time.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 14 at 2019 10:52 AM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 14 Jun 2019 10:52:32 -0400

Found out they are authorized at commanders discretion

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 14 at 2019 11:24 AM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 14 Jun 2019 11:24:26 -0400

I have worn these same boots for over 2 years (I don’t have other boots either that this point) and have never been told they were not compliant to AR670-1.

To add to one of the other comments, the material on the back of the heel is technically separate from the sole

Response by WO1 Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 14 at 2019 12:25 PM

WO1 Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 14 Jun 2019 12:25:11 -0400

I have seen many, including senior NCOs, wear these. I, personally, do not have a pair, so I don't wear them. I would agree with the other comments that state it is commander's discretion, but I would find it odd that a commander would care enough that a soldier is wearing these boots, as they are in fact an issued item.

Response by SSG Dale London made Jun 14 at 2019 9:16 PM

SSG Dale London — Fri, 14 Jun 2019 21:16:49 -0400

I'm pretty left-brained about this sort of stuff. If my PSG/1SG/Co said "do it," so long as it was legal, I did it. I would be inclined to put these boots in my "B" bag and get some boots that met the requirements of my command for garrison use. I doubt that, when you are in the field, anybody is going to care very much what you put on your feet so long as they don't stand out, your feet stay dry and you stay mobile.

Response by CSM Darieus ZaGara made Jun 15 at 2019 7:16 AM

CSM Darieus ZaGara — Sat, 15 Jun 2019 07:16:51 -0400

The boots are designed for more aggressive terrain and not necessary in Garrison. They can be worn in a field training environment. Also, you receive a clothing allowance, if you wear out these issues boots CIF replaces them for. Operational budget, when you wear out boots through days to day routine it is your responsibility to replace based on that clothing allowance. I mention this so that you can see the broader spectrum. Thank you for your service.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 26 at 2019 5:51 PM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 26 Jun 2019 17:51:55 -0400

Ego gone wild.