Posted on Oct 20, 2015
Road rage or a WASP with a wasp up his ass?
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The crash happened Saturday on a two-lane road about 5 miles north of Granbury. Eric Sanders, the driver of the motorcycle, contends the car's driver swerved intentionally. He suffered abrasions, and his girlfriend was taken to a Fort Worth hospital with a broken wrist and deep arm lacerations.
https://www.facebook.com/eric.sanders.585/videos/ [login to see] 935597/
http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2015/10/20/driver-arrested-after-car-veers-into-motorcycle-hurting-2/?intcmp=hpff
https://www.facebook.com/eric.sanders.585/videos/ [login to see] 935597/
http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2015/10/20/driver-arrested-after-car-veers-into-motorcycle-hurting-2/?intcmp=hpff
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Posted 9 y ago
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Your answer pool has no selection I can agree to..
So I'll put my own here.
While the rider wrong for passing when he did and was a violation of traffic code......what the driver did was deliberate, an attack with a deadly weapon, not defensive, and was a criminal act.
One should get a citation, the other convicted of attempted murder. I strongly disagree with anyone who thinks the action was deserved in this case, as I would the girl raped, calling it "fair" because of her manner of dress. The Man stabbed to death...because he "chooses" to get a burger at a bad time and location.
It was road rage; it was way too close to home....in both location and what I do for a living, hobby, enjoyment.
I ride, my wife rides, my sons ride, I teach people every day to ride and am responsible for putting them (legally) on the road. The driver is lucky to have survived his road rage... My hope is, he gets a cellmate that is a biker.
So I'll put my own here.
While the rider wrong for passing when he did and was a violation of traffic code......what the driver did was deliberate, an attack with a deadly weapon, not defensive, and was a criminal act.
One should get a citation, the other convicted of attempted murder. I strongly disagree with anyone who thinks the action was deserved in this case, as I would the girl raped, calling it "fair" because of her manner of dress. The Man stabbed to death...because he "chooses" to get a burger at a bad time and location.
It was road rage; it was way too close to home....in both location and what I do for a living, hobby, enjoyment.
I ride, my wife rides, my sons ride, I teach people every day to ride and am responsible for putting them (legally) on the road. The driver is lucky to have survived his road rage... My hope is, he gets a cellmate that is a biker.
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CPO Andy Carrillo, MS
Thanks for weighing in. As a former CA LE officer I would have also cited the motorcycle driver with reckless driving (endangering his passenger while passing 2 vehicles over a double yellow); the DA might have reduced to a lesser included.
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The rider is still responsible for following the rules of the road, no matter how tempting the open space is. The cager is responsible for maintaining the speed limit and giving way to avoid collision. Act one, the rider low level offense, passing on double yellow, can be dangerous, and should not have done so. Purposefully swerving your vehicle into another, that becomes assault with a weapon (car). Rider should be cited in my opinion, for reckless driving or whichever VC is appropriate in Texas. Cager should be tried for attempted manslaughter possible attempted murder; though I think that would be a hard sell. Either way they are both clowns and should take remedial driver/rider training.
I did not like the options on the survey and so did not respond.
I did not like the options on the survey and so did not respond.
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PO1 John Miller
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No hard sell in my opinion. The evidence is right there in the video for all to see. At first saying "I don't care..." and then changing his story to "I got stung..."
No hard sell in my opinion. The evidence is right there in the video for all to see. At first saying "I don't care..." and then changing his story to "I got stung..."
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CPO Andy Carrillo, MS
In a criminal trial this should be a 'slam dunk'--but juries are highly unpredictable. In a civil trial both would be at fault; it's now a matter of to what degree. What are your thoughts about the motorcyclist recklessly endangering the female passenger?
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I would agree that a charge of reckless driving could be a certainty, however, it is a jury of your peers. I am sure a peer group in Texas would have a vastly different view as a peer group from California.
As a rider myself (800+ miles per week every week), I can say that there is frustration when you are parked behind someone who is doing well below the speed limit for no apparent reason. In California we have lane sharing, and so I am able to mitigate my angst by simply overtaking and going about my business. In this case, I do not believe that lane sharing is available in Texas. This rider endangered himself, the ride and the cager's when he decided to go over the double yellow. Does it happen, yes, have I ever done it, I do not see how that would be relevant. The point is that the cager was creating a traffic hazard by dramatically driving under the list speed; assuming the stories are accurate. That is a minor offense, hindering traffic. The rider created a traffic hazard by; passing more than one vehicle, while crossing a double yellow. Again minor offense. I would find it very coincidental that someone who attests to not liking those doing wheelies and not caring that he just collided with a rider, whom he thought was one of those doing wheelies, was conveniently bitten by unknown, not found bug causing him to swerve dramatically into the passing rider. As well, the cager, swerved only once, there was no repeated swerving as would be suspected if a bug bite caused such a distraction.
The rider should share some of the accountability for the passenger, as the rider who knowingly performed an unlawful action. However, every rider knows when they get on, it is not if they go down but when, so there is an assuming of risk.
I place the majority of the accountability for this mishap with the curmudgeon.
As a rider myself (800+ miles per week every week), I can say that there is frustration when you are parked behind someone who is doing well below the speed limit for no apparent reason. In California we have lane sharing, and so I am able to mitigate my angst by simply overtaking and going about my business. In this case, I do not believe that lane sharing is available in Texas. This rider endangered himself, the ride and the cager's when he decided to go over the double yellow. Does it happen, yes, have I ever done it, I do not see how that would be relevant. The point is that the cager was creating a traffic hazard by dramatically driving under the list speed; assuming the stories are accurate. That is a minor offense, hindering traffic. The rider created a traffic hazard by; passing more than one vehicle, while crossing a double yellow. Again minor offense. I would find it very coincidental that someone who attests to not liking those doing wheelies and not caring that he just collided with a rider, whom he thought was one of those doing wheelies, was conveniently bitten by unknown, not found bug causing him to swerve dramatically into the passing rider. As well, the cager, swerved only once, there was no repeated swerving as would be suspected if a bug bite caused such a distraction.
The rider should share some of the accountability for the passenger, as the rider who knowingly performed an unlawful action. However, every rider knows when they get on, it is not if they go down but when, so there is an assuming of risk.
I place the majority of the accountability for this mishap with the curmudgeon.
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The motorcycle rider was wrong by all means but the driver of the car is not a cop or any law enforcement and should have not turn into the motorcycle. What if he killed either the rider or passanger. Then at the end saying I don't care on video. Then change his story saying he was being biten by a bug when charges being brought on him. Well he being charged with 2 counts of aggravate assualt and could face 20 years for each count.
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CPO Andy Carrillo, MS
Thank goodness for the video proof. Otherwise it would be 'he said, he said'...the motorcycle driver should have also been charged with reckless driving, at minimum. His girlfriend lost tissue right down to the bone and that will leave a mark...
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