Room for improvement regarding NCOER?

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 10 Jul 2014 10:40:52 -0400

Just wondering what your opinions are regarding room for improvement on an NCOER. For example, lets say you have recieved a 1/1 rating on your last few NCOERs, which is totally subjective, and upon reviewing your current working NCOER, your reviewer states that you should receive a lower rating to provide "room for improvement". Should your or should you not have an issue with this?

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 10 at 2014 10:51 AM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 10 Jul 2014 10:51:24 -0400

I you are deserving of better then I would have a problem with it. It's all about honest and fair evaluations. If you know that you did not necessarily deserve the 1/1 before then the board will see that and know it as well.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 10 at 2014 11:09 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 10 Jul 2014 11:09:54 -0400

SSG Young

If it was me and the rater cannot provide me a valid reason for a lower rating, I would definitely have an issue with it, the NCOER should reflect your performance, if you are good you are good, if you suck you suck period.

Response by CW2 Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 10 at 2014 12:05 PM

CW2 Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 10 Jul 2014 12:05:49 -0400

When I teach NCOER classes I always talk about what a ridiculous thing this is.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 11 at 2014 9:53 PM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 11 Jul 2014 21:53:00 -0400

SSG,

The needs improvement is BS. I have heard this countless times in the past. It seems the down playing of evaluations has been part of the NCO culture for the longest.

Response by SSG Brian L. made Jun 11 at 2020 8:00 AM

SSG Brian L. — Thu, 11 Jun 2020 08:00:43 -0400

I would demand quarterly counselings so the Rater can detail expectations of you so you can meet or exceed them... also so they don't pull any non sense about what they expected. I had a similar thing happen and it was a shock.